Ramair21

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Just got my brakes from Scott down over there and I LOVE THEM!!! What a great guy to do busniess with!! I recommend him if your planing on doing this upgrade.

bigbrakeupgrade.com

See for yourself

Joey

Twisted92Z28

Thanks for the info, im looking to upgrade my brakes and did not know about these guys.

Fast92RS

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Im also looking in to it. Im not sure if I should do the LS1 upgrade or the C5 upgrade.

Ramair21

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Whatever you get it will be top quality!!! Get them, its well worth it Belive me

Matthew91-Z28

Hot damn! Mine are in the mail as we speak. I've only waited 3 years to finally get big brakes. Good to know we're dealing with good people.

ZimGTA

There is also a Board Sponsor named ebmiller who sells brakes. In case you didn't know.

Gladstoneiroc

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Ebmiller is great as well. However, I got my brakes from them almost two years ago when he only did ebay ads and they still work fine. Also go ahead and get new hoses while you are at it.

Twisted92Z28

any suggestions as far as hoses go

Gladstoneiroc

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I went with basic advanced replacement hoses, because the insides of mine had deteriorated into a one-way valve. You could get braided if you have the money.

honkeytonk_man

I just completed the c5 upgrade on my Z-28 and am very pleased with the results. This upgrade represents a great value, the quality of parts and assembly seemed very good and the package represents a very good value in a upgrade that literally drops on (20 min a side max). Best of all is the performance increase: The old 10.5" set up (which had all new componets five years ago and fresh pads at the time of testing) was just lousy. In testing with a G-tech best 60-0 for the 10.5 setup was 146 feet, with the C5 setup it was 121 feet. With the 10.5 setup I could not lock up the brakes with the pads cold (run number one), run number two was best however the brakes were still hard to modulate. All subsequent runs sucked, with signifigant brake fade, hard to manipulate 'grabby' brakes, unexpected lockup and smoking brakes eventually! The c-5 setup just felt good, was easy to manipulate hot or cold, with consistant lockup right at 5mph, was extremely fade resistant and offered solid performance regardless of tempreture (all stops were between 121-126 feet, pretty good with my less than track worthy technique). So all in all very pleased great bang for the buck upgrade!

Camaroz29

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I also went with their C5 kit and couldn't be happier. Link:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/brak...-complete.html

FIRECHICKEN

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Glad to hear that you guys had good luck with the upgrade. I bought some Hubs and Brackets from TPI383 (aka Chris Eckard) here on the board. Had to wait over 6 months for some rusty S10 hubs with a crappy slapped on powder coat finish and they even had ABS rings still on them. what an A@@hole. Then he tried to feed me some BS about this guys fault and that guys fault and being sooo busy. Blah Blah blah. Stay away from him!!!!

Fast92RS

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Did you get to install them yet? How has your braking improved? Im going to be buying the LS1 upgrade in a week or so. I know the C5 kit is only a little more but I dont have it in my budget to get new wheels tio fit the C5 kit.

Cadillac

Let's talk turkey.

Is the "BIG BRAKE UPGRADE" a direct bolt in replacement for my front brakes?

Will they work with my GTA rims?

What other parts should I get with this upgrade?

How much can I expect to pay all told?

A Dutchman wants to know...

Ramair21

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YES MR. Dutchman, its a bolt on, He ships it already assembled and ready to slap on. Im not sure if the GTA rims will work, i know that if its a 16" rim i think you will be fine. Everything ran me about 1K but i also got the rear rotors as well, with slots or course. Rather do it right then kick myself later on. You also want to get the earls brake lines. Mine where all beat up so why not. This isnt really a cheap bolt on, but im sure it will increase stoping power and for sure looks.

Gladstoneiroc

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My front setup cost me $519 to my door a year ago. With new ball joints, hoses, and fluid, somewhere close to $600. But I got regular rotor and some decent $~40 set of pads.

Ramair21

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I did the whole works LOL.

Cadillac

OK... Work with me here. The BBU site is kinda slack on details.

Here's the scenario. I have all stock stuff with 16 inch front and rear GTA style rims with drums on a non-posi rear 2.73 rear axle. If I make this order I can expect something that will replace what I currently have on my spindles in the front? Obviously I would love to replace with the rear axle with a 3.27/3.23 with disks and that would help but focusing on the fronts, would this be a adequate?

Ramair21

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The fronts Get replaced with all new stuff. Spindles, brakes, brake Lines(Option) Rotors(cross drilled Option) Calipers(poweder coated Option) Everyting is new. About your Rims, thats somthing that you will have to ask Scott. Does this make a little better to understand bro?? BBU does not sell anything for the rear. only fronts.

Bull

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I am interested in this, but how can unbolting all my old stuff and bolting on this kit really only take 20 minutes per side?

Ramair21

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cant really tell you cause i havent done it yet. Almost there though. But it all comes together for you shiped. Just unbolt old stuff and insert new. Bleeding the brakes may take a little long, Just make sure you have a buddy helping you.

Cadillac

Thanks, Joe.

Ramair21

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OH FO SHO!!!! LOL

Camaroz29

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Becuase it is like he said, the kit comes fully assembled. The pita part is bleeding the brakes when you are done.

Bull

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Well, then I need one of you guys to come over to my place to do the swap. I'll have the kit waiting for you, and I'll pay you $100 per hour to do the job.

I read the instructions on the site, and you have to compress the spring, disconnect tie rod etc. I guess I am just real slow and a scaredy cat around compressed potential energy in a spring, because it'd take me waay longer to do the job.

It does look like an awesome kit on the website, though, and I have put it on my "future projects" list.

Cadillac

Ditto. My list is getting large. I love that.

Bull

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Mine, too. Is your wallet getting larger as well? Mine seems to be getting thinner

dimented24x7

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Looks like a solid product. Gonna order a set

Just out of curiosity, how are you guys handling the m-cyl.? I have PBRs in the rear and the brake pedal with the stock 'FX' one goes nearly straight to the floor.

Gladstoneiroc

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I have pbrs rears and ls1 fronts and my master feels good. I'm still using the original master and small disc/ drum prop valve. Eventually I'm going with the 1le prop, ls1 master, and ls1 resevior.

Jade Grey

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The caliper will hit the crosslaced center section of the GTA wheels. You will need a thin spacer to use LS1 brakes with GTA wheels.

On my home computer, I have a bookmarked thread containing information on the thickness needed. I'll try to look it up when I get home from work. I believe the spacer was a stock GM part.

Otherwise, talk to Mike at bigbrakeupgrade.com or PM ebmiller for the specifics of the spacer's width.

I plan on doing either the 1LE or LS1 brake upgrade by the end of this summer hopefully.

V6sucker

the 12" front C4/C5 NON hd LS1 will fit under mesh wheels. the 13" nope sorry. I am in the same boat.

Jade Grey

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Here's the thread I remembered, edmiller and brake gurus come in.

The spacer was used on the later GTA and formula wheels on rear drum axles. The part number is 14091902. It's only .030" thick. Being that thin you may be able to use washers instead.

ebmiller88

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Sorry but I wouldn't use just washers, the wheel needs to be snugged down on more than just a set of washers. It's all about surface area and torque...be safe fellas.

Ed

Fast92RS

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Just ordered the LS1 big brake upgrade kit. I got it with hawks pads, drilled and slotted rotors and earls brake lines. I cant wait to get it.

Ramair21

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Your going to love them. I got what you got. I put them on already and man, it was easy. Took about 1hr for both sides and about 30min to bleed the brakes.

Fast92RS

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Just got the LS1 kit. What an awsome set up and it came fully assembled. I cant wait to put it on.

Cadillac

What an awesome thread.

(not so subtle bump)

MikeH

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But dont they make the wheels stick out farther? Im Thinking of doing this as well but want to keep my stock rims.

Tom91Bird

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They should, but it's only the thickness of the center portion of the rotors which from what I hear is only .300 of an inch.

Tom

92BLKL98

I completed the LS1 upgrade on my Z28 about three weeks ago. Now I have outstanding brakes and the parts Scott uses are quality components. I already had Earl's Hyperflex brake lines on my car which interchange to the LS1 kit and you won't go wrong using the Speed Bleeders. I never tried them before but will install them on everything I own now they just work. GREAT UPGRADE Thanks Scott

86Z

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i just recently got my front ls1 kit from scott also with the slotted and drilled rotors and the earl ss lines, these things look bad, i cant wait till i install them, very nice setup. i may purchase another set just to sit on my shelf

Fast92RS

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Did anyone have a problem with the Earl's lines from big brake upgrade? There is no fitting on the new lines to secure the line to the braket on the strut.

ebmiller88

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Yes:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/brak...lled-earl.html

Ed

systalis

I just stumbled on this thread today. I also got a complete front and rear disc from scott about 8 months ago. I spoke with him on the phone several times before my purchase and he is a really nice guy. He also e-mailed me a few months after my purchase to see if things went smoothly. The system came in three or four boxes and was expertly packed. I would recomend big brake upgrade to anyone who askes.

yuel

I dealt with scott about 6 months ago, great guy and answered my questions. I took the brakes parts from him and upgraded to c6 brakes.

FIRECHICKEN

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Has anybody had a problem with the abutment spacing and pressing against the rotor. I was installing the abutment on my C5 kit when they tightened up against the rotor binding it up. I had to use a 1/8" thick harde ned spacer to some what correct the problem. I am however using Baer modified spindles and Baer aluminum hubs instead of modify the factory stuff. I compared some factory hubs to the Baers and they look the same. I am not so sure about the spindles though. Anyone have experience with both??

ebmiller88

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Why doen't the guy at BBU reply to these questions???

This may happen due to casting tolerances in the spindles, I have experience with this. For example, some spindles may need a 3/8" bracket, some a 1/2" bracket for the same brakes. Using a spacer washer is just fine and won't cause you any issues IF installed properly. Always use red threadlocker on the carrier bolts and tighten them down good and tight, and let the locker cure properly.

Also, since you're using Baer hubs, they may be just a hair off in location and causing this issue. Again, not a biggie, just use the washer and go. Any slight misalignment will be taken up by the sliding of the caliper and by pad wear.

The spindles are Baer units but are close to 1LE castings.

Ed