project89

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ive known about this manifold for some time but being the seller had a limited quanity i didnt want to post it till i purchased one

i already purchased a real deal hsr but for the price i couldnt help but to snag one of these and compare them.
this thing is 285$ shipped and from the measurements the seller gave me the ports are just under a felpro 1206 gasket .
i should have mine in my hands on monday or tuesday and then i will post up pics of it and compare it to the real hsr for all to see .

if this thing is just as nice as the real hsr i will be sending mine back to summit racing

anyways heres a link to the ebay ad

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-SBC-350-TPI-EFI-1957-1986-Ram-Air-Upper-And-Lower-Intake-Manifold-System-/181329849982?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a3819ee7e&vxp=mtr

JacobIroc

I've seen this aswell. was like.. WTF? lol
I wonder if they have to use the Holley fuel rails aswell?

project89

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i will be using the procomp fuel rails they are 50$ a set, should bolt right on

86iroct5

part number for the pro comp fuel rails? do they bolt to the real HSR

Johnny Blaze

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Why support a counterfiter to save a few bucks?

project89

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ill have to get u the part number , looks like i have to slightly enlarge the mounting holes for it to bolt on properly but thats no big deal really
cause it is looking like the knockoff comes with a larger port/runner then the wieand and can be ported further .

price wasnt an issue here i have a real hsr that i purchased for my project
if the knockoff is capable of supporting more then the real hsr well then ill be using the knockoff

1991sleeper

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Seems like more than a "few bucks"

91' firebird .. 305 TBI .030 over , balanced bottom end , speed pro hyper flattops , 10.6:1 CR , all ARP rod bolts and main studs , melling HV oil pump , trick flow super 23 175cc heads, Howards HR 214/218@.050 .488/.495 lift on 114 LSA , full roller 1.6 RR = .520/.528 lift , summit dual plane intake port matched , shorty headers into 2.5" Y w full 3" flow master system and 3" cutout in front of axle , msd billet dizzy, 620cfm TBI , custom CAI , tubular adjustabke LCA pan hard , umi torque arm wonder bar , BMR trans cross member , COMP engineering SFC's, disc rear w 4.10's, drilled an slotted rotors, EBL flash , VRFPR, WBO2,

larryjoe

i was wondering about this intake as well, and cant wait to see how you like it.

Johnny Blaze

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It will be interesting to see if it truely has enough material for a 1206.

Looks like about a $75 price difference.

Let's hope no one knocks off whatever work you guys do to support yourselves.

I'm sure the guys working at holley would like to keep working and supporting their families.

project89

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measurements the seller gave me put it in at just under 1206 out of the box
the hsr is cheap enough but if the knockoff can go bigger well thats what im going to use sometimes u have to just use what works

JacobIroc

I don't know if the procomp rails work for the HSR, but if you have to buy Holley rails for the HSR then thats what? another $275 + $75 = $350 price difference. I don't have any experience with the HSR though. I could be wrong.

project89

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just checked my tracking number it still hasent left the warehouse lil pissed but as long as i get it before next weekend ill be happy

Johnny Blaze

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^ you can use procomp rails.

But at $275 the holley rails also includes a regulator and other hardware.

Someone here used procomp rails and after spending money to get them hooked up and running, the savings were not that great.

project89

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everyone says to not use the holley regulator though, u can buy the fuel rail blanks and make ur own rails really cheap as well but for 50 bucks u can buy the already machined procomp rails


i may end up having to buy .750 id fuel rail blanks anyways and making my own so that fuel rails will support 4 digit power on e/85 or methanol

Johnny Blaze

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Wouldn't a single plane be more appropriate for 4 digit hp?

project89

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probably but theres no reason the hsr cant do it
specially considering ppl have been doing 700+ whp with tpi stuff
aftermarket base and runners

vetteoz

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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/alte...-products.html

project89

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thats the same rail kit im buying for 54$ shipped only difference is the guy sells the regulator seperatly for 87$'s

robertfrank

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Subbed. If this intake checks out then i'll just get this one instead on my LT355.

project89

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has a lil bit of trouble with the shipping, the seller corrected the issue and the intake got shipped today. ill have it in my hands friday afternoon acording to the tracking number

sofakingdom

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And the Red Army gets a few more American dollars from an American ... yeah, one of those ... to ... what is the purpose of the Red Army's existence, anyway?

I will not give those people ONE GODDAMN DIME of my money if I can help it, in any manner way shape form or fashion. Not at Walmart, not at ProComp, not ANYWHERE. Yeah, I may not live long enough to see it, myself; but I REFUSE to contribute to the enslavement of my own grandchildren to debt accumulated by short-sighted bargain hunters in my lifetime by my generation because I was TOO CHEEEEEEEEEEP to realize that paying a Red Army officer to enslave his own people FIRST is a bad idea.

Incidentally, I have a deep and abiding respect for the Chinese people and their culture; learned to read and write a little of their language, even. OTOH I have NO RESPECT WHATSOEVER for the economic system, and therefore the plantation overseers, they labor under at this time in history. Someday, they'll figure it out, and fix the Communist Party problem; until then, my money does NOT go there. Even if it costs me a coupla coins (which is all it is, in this case) to keep my money out of their hands.

project89

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i get what ur saying but i think u missed the part were i already purchased a real hsr and then found this intake, like i said before it wasnt about saving money , this other intake may actually have larger ports/runners and may be able to be ported out further then the real hsr

if thats the case it makes it a better intake for my engine and its going on the engine


if it is infact the case maybe holley will take notice and make some changes to the hsr

project89

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well it deffinatly has enough meat to go 1206 or better , this thing has a ton of meat
problem is the ports on the head side are rough out of the box

the plenum on the other hand is an awsome piece out of the box its hand fabricated or more then likley robot fabricated but made out of 1/4 inch aluminum , and ball milled on the top then polished

unfortunatly i forgot to bring the cord for my iphone to work so i cant post pics till tonight

project89

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almost forgot the base came in a procomp box , the pleneum on the other hand came in a seperate box with no markings on it.

articwhiteZ

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the current administration is making up for all the money we don't give them. He's the best socialist president we've ever had.....

mjdavis68

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WOW?

HighTechRedneck

In for updates.

Also, gtfo of the thread, nobody is forcing you to buy this.

robertfrank

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Nothing an hour with some sanding couldn't cure. I look forward to the pics. I bought the single plane hurricane for my 383. It took a little porting and clean up but after that it's not a bad piece for the price.

sofakingdom

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You're wrong. I didn't miss ANY parts.

Personally I don't give a damn what it has or doesn't have; I won't give the Red Army A DIME of my money if I can help it.

In a few years, when the people figure out they've been getting duped just like East Germany did and Hungary and the Ukraine and Poland and ... all the rest, maybe things will be different. In the meantime, the People's Army - that fires on The People when it suits them - can go straight to Hell for all I care.

Street Lethal

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... and what exactly is wrong for countries such as China and India to use Tariffs to build their countries into economic superpowers? The United States did the same exact thing way back when, or did you not know that? Perhaps if the US citizens stopped watching shows like American Idiot, Honey fatso, and Jersey Shmucks, and started focusing on the countries' economic future and changed legislation to empower small businesses, removed the stranglehold that the reserve has on banks to loan without regulations and stipulations, then you might have a point. But, I can tell you AS a banker, stick a fork in this country, because it is done! As far as your money not going there, your money will eventually, and I stress eventually, go to the globalist US Bankers anyway, so enjoy the illusion of living the capitalistic American dream with its' high crime rate, illegal drug problem, increasing unemployment, and life ruining, not to mention embarrassing, bankruptcies and foreclosures but only for the moment.

project89

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yeah theres nothing wrong with it if ur not afriad to take a dremel/die grinder to it.Prolly take me 30 mins to clean up the ports.
but for somone with no tools who needs to bolt it on out of the box this intake deffiatly isnt for them

id like to add the manifold base has the bosses so u can drill it out to the vortec pattern as well , so if u need the votec version this one would save u around 150$ on just the manifold, thats more then half the cost of the holley fuel rail kit

im getting out of work now ( had to cover for my bosses shift today as well as mine)and im getting ready to head right over to the shop to start spraying the engine bay.

it will be late as hell before i get home but when i do ill get thos epics up asap

norcalz28

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Looking forward to pics as well.

project89

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pics will be up in a few mins just need to download the windows xp photo resizing tool first

project89

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i had pictures with the measurements of the ports and how thick the walls are but the flash washed them out, tommorow morning i will take more without the flash and post them

1206 gasket is not an issue , looks like u coupld possibly even go to a or almost to a 1207 gasket but u would have to rework alot of the runner

this intake deff needs some port work to clean up the head side of the ports but imho i like it more then the wieand , i may send my real hsr back , or i might drop it on my truck

norcalz28

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Looks great! Nothing like a freshly cast piece of aluminum. And that plenum is a work of art. If I didn't have emissions to deal with here in CA, I would pick one of those up for my car.

Will

project89

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they sell both the plenum and lower intake seperatly , so if someone has a real hsr and would like that plenum u can buy it by itself , or u could just buy just the base to replace the wieand if u needed to goto a 1206 or larger port

Tony89GTA

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Hmmm looks like the Chinese can make a better intake...lol! Seriously though that does look nice and your right that plenum is a work of art!

Love to see some head side port pics, thanks for sharing.

robertfrank

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How far off is it to a 1205?

brian p

I paid for a real HSR so i think I can chime in about knock offs. Once a manufacturer has paid for the research/devlpt, etc, etc costs that they always yap about, maybe they should consider lowering their prices every year instead of the other way around. I'm pretty sure Weiand/Holley have long since made their money on this.

aaron7

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Damn, that looks nice! Was worried about the welds and stuff... might want to leak test things haha

mjdavis68

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I'm getting one now,.. but what fuel rail are you using....

project89

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ports were 2.00 x 1.20 out of the box 1205 is 2.09 x 1.28

the measurements the seller had given me was closer to a 1206 but it only took a few mins to port out to 1206 size

ill have mor epics up today

soon as i get back home ill post a link for ya

articwhiteZ

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all they did was take there tunel ram base and stick a top on it that the tpi TB would bolt to...and pop in some bosses for the FI.

not much if any RD...

if they did any it would fit more cars with stock hoods...
and cutting a small hole to fit lager openings. with out doing all of the runner is doing nothing. but make ya feel good.
but if your cutting all of the runner from top to bottom the same size... then that works.but i know.. ya know this..

sheikss

Will the top of the eBay intake bolt to the hsr base and is it lower profile all togather. Reason I ask is for the firebird guys like me who would like to keep the stock hood without hacking anymore than necessary.

cs80camaro

Right on! wish more people would wake up and smell the coffee.

project89

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same as the holley/wieand
u could make ur own plenum very easily for this intake since it only has 4 mounting holes

if i were to make my own plenum i would build one to use the ls round throttle body to make the plenum not as high , and sheetmetal shop could bend and weld u up a plenum for lil cost


sorry for the lack of new pictures guys i spent the weekend trying to sort out my p[earl paint job, it was a total disaster, lol only thing we got to spray was my junk hood for practice, i had only enough time to get the timing set on timing cover bolted down and the front accessories on the engine

PAFORM350

OMG so true. Ignorance is bliss for some.

mjdavis68

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What rail are we using.....

project89

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sorry i forgot

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMALL-BLOCK-CHEVY-ANODIZED-RED-BILLET-FUEL-RAILS-W-FITTINGS-SBC-/140922570233?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20cfa3c5f9

InfernalVortex

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Trying to buy American and fighting the new global economy isnt going to do you any good. it's a complex issue, but if you want to understand what's really going on I suggest you listen to this:

http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/cs...ts-republicans

It's basically out of our hands at this point. If the product is good I will buy Chinese, not because I hate America, but because the American dream is already dead.

If the Chinese are making a better intake, then Holley should step it up and make theirs better or deal with the consequences.