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Old 06-07-2016, 03:55 PM
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These seat bolster wrinkles are BUGGING me!

Just this year, I've noticed that the outside seat bolster on the driver's seat of my '89 is wrinkled. I've tried steaming it and adjusting it but with no result.

Any tips? Because it's really bugging me!


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Re: These seat bolster wrinkles are BUGGING me!

Foam compressed from usage, lacking support for the upholstery now.Maybe add a layer or two to seat foam.
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Foam compressed from usage, lacking support for the upholstery now.Maybe add a layer or two to seat foam.

It's probably more age related than from use. The car only has 11K miles on it.
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Can you steam it to get it moist and hit it with a hair dryer? The dryer may shrink it like the clothes dryer does. I would think the issue is related to the way people have entered the car and may have stretched the fabric by rolling across the bolster. Heat may shrink it.
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What method are you using for steaming it? Honestly when I recover seats I use a Shark brand hand held steamer with the pointed nozzle, and steam directly into the bare foam, and you will be amazed how much the foam will puff back to original shape. I have found that the areas with the most shrinkage are typically the areas that see the most sunlight, and not so much weight/wear. I think with the same nozzle you could directly steam through the cover using 50/50 coverage to get some of the puff back in the foam.... if you haven't already tried this same method. I think I have a video, I'd have to try and find showing me steaming some foams and the amount of swell/puff they get.

If that doesn't work it is common practice to use fiber fill (pillow/doll stuffing) to fill voids, but will require you removing 2-3 hog rings from the seat corners and stuffing it up there with your hand with the seat back removed from the bottom. Honestly not hard at all.

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Can you steam it to get it moist and hit it with a hair dryer? The dryer may shrink it like the clothes dryer does. I would think the issue is related to the way people have entered the car and may have stretched the fabric by rolling across the bolster. Heat may shrink it.

Worth a try!
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Re: These seat bolster wrinkles are BUGGING me!

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What method are you using for steaming it? Honestly when I recover seats I use a Shark brand hand held steamer with the pointed nozzle, and steam directly into the bare foam, and you will be amazed how much the foam will puff back to original shape. I have found that the areas with the most shrinkage are typically the areas that see the most sunlight, and not so much weight/wear. I think with the same nozzle you could directly steam through the cover using 50/50 coverage to get some of the puff back in the foam.... if you haven't already tried this same method. I think I have a video, I'd have to try and find showing me steaming some foams and the amount of swell/puff they get.

If that doesn't work it is common practice to use fiber fill (pillow/doll stuffing) to fill voids, but will require you removing 2-3 hog rings from the seat corners and stuffing it up there with your hand with the seat back removed from the bottom. Honestly not hard at all.

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If you find the video, post a link! What do you mean by 50/50 coverage?
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Re: These seat bolster wrinkles are BUGGING me!

Hey Charlie, the cloth seats in my 90 vette did the same thing. I had the foam professionally built up in them and it made a world of a difference. I also did the same in my old '84 15th TA and they looked great.
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If you find the video, post a link! What do you mean by 50/50 coverage?
I deleted it from my phone, after I posted it to Instagram. Not sure If I can share that externally. I'll look into it. If you are on IG find me @badnblk

50/50 coverage is like when painting or polishing. You wanna go half way into your previous pass with the steamer nozzle. You might be able to do less.
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So 50% overlap as you steam then?

I'd like to see that video too.
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So 50% overlap as you steam then?

I'd like to see that video too.
I have no clue how to steal it from my own instagram to re-post here. I was able to show Chazman through a link on FB.
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I have no clue how to steal it from my own instagram to re-post here. I was able to show Chazman through a link on FB.
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You are just going to have to do a whole new video for us!

But I am planning on steaming the crap out of it tonight!
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Hey Charlie, the cloth seats in my 90 vette did the same thing. I had the foam professionally built up in them and it made a world of a difference. I also did the same in my old '84 15th TA and they looked great.
This may be the final solution.
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Re: These seat bolster wrinkles are BUGGING me!

Originally Posted by chazman
This may be the final solution.
Unfortunately I'm going to agree it is. The type of foam used in the front seats of our cars I've noticed simply deteriorates with age, even with use and exposure not being a factor. So much for people back then saying it's not biodegradable haha!

Hopefully there are foam materials today that don't "eat" themselves lol. Time will tell. My upholsterer when he created all new custom seat foam for my front seats, used this white dense foam that has even a different texture. He said it would be perfect and last a very long time. A year on not a single wrinkle and it feels amazing, super supportive yet nice and soft.

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Unfortunately I'm going to agree it is. The type of foam used in the front seats of our cars I've noticed simply deteriorates with age, even with use and exposure not being a factor. So much for people back then saying it's not biodegradable haha!

Hopefully there are foam materials today that don't "eat" themselves lol. Time will tell. My upholsterer when he created all new custom seat foam for my front seats, used this white dense foam that has even a different texture. He said it would be perfect and last a very long time. A year on not a single wrinkle and it feels amazing, super supportive yet nice and soft.

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Steaming is having some effect, but very little. I'll try again tonight. BADNBLK showed me the video he was talking about on FB and man, that foam popped to life after he steamed it. Maybe the steamer I'm using is just too lo-po.
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Best case yeah, hope it does work! I know I sure wouldn't want to get into low mileage original seats like that.
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Re: These seat bolster wrinkles are BUGGING me!

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What method are you using for steaming it? Honestly when I recover seats I use a Shark brand hand held steamer with the pointed nozzle, and steam directly into the bare foam, and you will be amazed how much the foam will puff back to original shape. I have found that the areas with the most shrinkage are typically the areas that see the most sunlight, and not so much weight/wear. I think with the same nozzle you could directly steam through the cover using 50/50 coverage to get some of the puff back in the foam.... if you haven't already tried this same method. I think I have a video, I'd have to try and find showing me steaming some foams and the amount of swell/puff they get.

If that doesn't work it is common practice to use fiber fill (pillow/doll stuffing) to fill voids, but will require you removing 2-3 hog rings from the seat corners and stuffing it up there with your hand with the seat back removed from the bottom. Honestly not hard at all.

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I wonder if maybe you are using a steam "cleaner' and I am using a garment steamer designed to remove wrinkles?
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I wonder if maybe you are using a steam "cleaner' and I am using a garment steamer designed to remove wrinkles?
Yes the Shark brand has various attachments for various uses, and cleaning is one of them. The pointed nozzle tip is the one I use. Directs the steam into a concentrated area deep into the foam.
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