I am inclined to believe that due to the level of interest in the 4th gen conversion, their should be a seperate sub forum for it (like body and interior). Compile all of the 4th gen conversion topics their and it would make a valuable resource for those of us attempting the swap.

 

Thats why they have the little SEARCH button. People replace fuel pumps too, should we have a fuel pump forum?

 

That is not really the same thing.

 

I really think the idea is a GREAT one! I think, due to the HUGE level of 4th gen questions, its beginning to look like we may need another forum for the 4th gen questions...

Maybe we should make this a poll?

This would CERTAINLY cut down on 4th gen questions thru all of the other forums and make it really nice to ask those specific questions.

 

Your right its not but its talked about enough on here so that mostly everyone should know whats 4th to 3rd compatable.

 

Obviously the 4th gen conversion is not so cut and dry. Their is not a set of instructions for the conversion. There isn't a kit for the conversion. Fuel pumps however,... are well documented.

 

So are the 4th gen swaps from thread after thread of people doing them.

 

I'd disagree, if this were the case, then their would likely be a tech article.. I see no "science" to the conversion..etveryone has a different trick. At any rate, I know that people here seem to hate the idea of "change" or better yet "adaptation", but I think it would be useful.

 

Hey Super mods, will one of you convert this into a poll ?

 

And before anyone goes off on the "This is thirdgen.org not fourthgen.org" tangent, the conversion is just as pertinent as a LT1 swap, also relating to 4th gens.

 

i thot that it would be neat to have a board like this along time ago... good to see some one fighting for it

but i say we should have an "interchangeable parts board", cuz theres lots of parts from cars other then f-bodys that can fit on to are cars

 

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We're not gonna make a separate board for something like this. But, if people would like to make thorough FAQ's (or if there already is a few posts) we will put them in the FAQ Board for easier reference.

 

I would also like to support the idea for this forum. I have been searching for comprehensive diagrams for wiring of the clusters throughout the different years... basically all we need is one for the '90-92 electronic speedo and I would be good to go. The HVAC is also a continuing debate to how to make the rotating dial work the accessories that used a lever. Also, guage clusters fitting into different dashes (Am I correct in assuming all 4th gen guage clusters will work with all 4th gen dashs?), and door panels. I will be doing the entire 4th gen interior swap in a a few months or so, and it would be good to have a dedicated place to have all my questions answered.

Yes, I have tried the searches, but you will get hundreds of threads to sort through.

 

many which are useless. another vote for a seperate board.

 

Why not, you have a sub forum for engine swaps?? Whats the big deal. I've run Vbulletin and I know it takes minimal effort to create the forum. Furthermore, you've got mods, give them the power to move threads and have them do a search for the old 4th gen swap threads and move them over. Hell we will do a search for the old ones, bump them up and your mods can move them.

I am at a loss as to why anyone would be against this particularily. Like someone else said, it wouldn't even have to be a "4th gen conversion" perhaps a custom conversion board stating "4th gen conversions, etc..etc.." in the description. I know the Admins are frugal about bandwidth, but doing this might even cut down on using the search function that results in high resource usage on your server. Ultimately you have a community of people, why not create a poll, and state your reasons for not wanting this rather than just saying "Not gonna happen", pissing people off, and further adding to the Hitler mod status often shared by moderators and Admins.

 

"Not gonna happen", pissing people off, and further adding to the Hitler mod status often shared by moderators and Admins. ____________________________________________________
No one is forced to stay here, if you dislike this site try to find another one with as much tech help. Want to discuss 4th gens go to a 4th gen site. Every question someone could possibly ask can be found by using the search button. Sure you may have to look for what you want, thats why its called a search . It just seems like people are too lazy to look for the information they need.

Besides whatever you move from a 4th gen to your 3rd gen already has a certain forum.

If you do work related to the apperance of your car it goes in the apperance forum, body and int goes in body and int etc. No need for anything else.

Also i think the HItler status isnt really a problem, instead i think people not getting what they want or hearing what they wanted to hear then getting all pissed is more of a real problem.

 

I REALLY REALLY REALLY (again) think this is a GREAT idea! those that are opposed, I can see your points, and though I do respect them, for the board members as a whole, I think it'd be GREATLY beneficial.

Lets visualize is this way: Lets say there was a "4th Gen Parts Questions (minus engine/trans swaps)":

Those that want 4th gen info can go to that forum and post. Those that want to avoid all 4th gen part talk, are free to roam the rest of the board w/o 4th gen questions.

Its WIN WIN!!

The current setup will continue to promote 4th gen questions in just about EVERY forum with little to no organization and newbies not knowing how or what to search for.

 

I hope everyone is understanding me when I say "seperate board". I don't mean an entirely different website or anything. I am talking about another main topic under the "techboards".

Third Generation F-Bodies > Tech Boards > 4th gen conversion board

Something like that.

 

Yup, thats what I was referring to as well.

 

Then how do you justify the need for the "engine swap" board that we have? How many of those people are converting to LT1's, LS1's and just about anything and everything that DID NOT come with Third gens ? In asking for this sub-forum, it is still done under the premise of Technical information pertaining to Thirdgens. Maybe it doesn't mean much to you, but I am a thirdgen owner who seeks alternatives. This 4th gen swap is an alternative to having a set of various jacked up gauges that can only be remedied with junk yard parts that will most certainly fail again. Its an alternative to people who want to have a different interior. Its ultimately an alternative. Whether you are for or against the 4th gen conversionis not important. What is important is that you understand that this is just as important as the engine swap board. Or perhaps we should just tell everyone with a V6 or 305 (hell even an Iron Duke) that they should look elsewhere for such information.

Furthermore, on the topic of "options", I am aware that I do not have to stay here. I like this board and have been assisted by many of the members here and contribute to the board as well. I've as much right to request this as you have to be here.

You however, has just as much right to ignore that Particular board if is doesn't pertain to you. Im sure you ignore the regional boards that don't pertain to you, so just as easily you could ignore the "4th gen conversion" board. So respectfully I ask, "Why be against it?". Realistically, how is going to hurt the board to adapt to new ideas? I don't see these type of requests go up often, so why shoot it down without a logical reason?

Thats one of the "catch 22" clauses with forums, particularily large forums... your dealing with a community of people. In particular here, you dealing with a community of Americans (mainly) that want to have some of the freedoms they enjoy in the real world, portrayed on the internet. In some cases, the people will need to be heard and It only takes one person to begin a revolt.

 

I think everyone here has been ignoring the Suggestions Forum

I personally think this isn't such a good idea, simply because a 4th gen swap board would have to cover all areas of the car (drivetrain, engine, interior, trans, exterior, electrical, fuel). I sometimes browse for websites with forums on other subjects (computers, appliances, etc) and a lot of them have forums that cover such broad areas that it's pointless to try to get help on them.

It's definitely the best idea for a new forum so far, though.

 

I see your point on that aspect.... Name it "custom interior" and put a note of "4th gen interior swap, plus all custom interiors" in the description. That could solve that problem... perhaps?

 

Hehe... now it would just go into Body and Interior.

And I think that just about fizzles the idea.

 

Exactly! And its not that im just saying "dude your an idiot" . Im trying to explain why i think it shouldnt ever happen. Their is no need for it plain and simple! Its usless! Use the search button. Its all coverd numbers of times. Also if you cant find the info you want on here use the web. Its pretty obvious everyone on here has a computer with an isp. Seriously its a dead issue, cant even see why this thread is still open ...... ____________________________________________________
We're not gonna make a separate board for something like this. But, if people would like to make thorough FAQ's (or if there already is a few posts) we will put them in the FAQ Board for easier reference.
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You got your answer right there. Its not like an election. You asked he answered. Pretty much sums it up. He even said that he'd make a FAQ so everyone could find it easier. This is begining to sound like a kid in a toy store begging for a toy.

 

Bro... if it bothers you that much... don't reply. Simple as that.

 

Whose the man behind the board anyway ?

 

omnipotentgoku, I'm totally in agreement with you. Unfortunately it seems that not many others in charge share the same vision.

Plain and simple, I guess the stubborn people on the board that can't face change will have to continue sorting thru the 4th gen questions, just as we will.

We'll continue to see Will 4thgen seats fit, will a 4th gen rear work, how hard is it to do a 4th gen dash, and all the other questions over and over...

 

You wouldn't see those questions on a 4th-gen forum? This is what "Body and Interior" is all about: working with the interior. This includes 4th gen swaps.

Just put a sticky here regarding 4th gen swaps that answers the basic questions and has a friendly link to the Search feature with "4th gen swap" already entered. That's probably the best idea.

 

I thought i saw a thread started at the top of the page about the 4th gen inside work.

And your right i dont have to reply just like you dont. I do because i feel like giving mo just like you.

You can not compare the engine swap forum with your idea. Ther are WAY more people doing engine swaps then people putting 4th gen seats in their cars and the work involved doesnt even compare!

Besides i think everyone here knows 4th gen seats, consol, dash, rear spoiler can all be put in/on a 3rd gen so whats the point? The forum would be left with " HEY I PUT A 4TH GEN DASH IN MY CAR HERES A PIC" threads that now go in body and int so THERE IS NO POINT.

Seems like you refuse to see the other side of this and are close minded to anyone elses ideas or reasoning.

And no im not in charge of the board but the man who is said NOPE not happening already!

 

the reason we dont need a 4thgen parts board is that 99% of all the conversion parts bolt in.



the remaining few parts are VERY well documented. if you're looking for a specific install, you can EASILY find it. but if you're looking for a list of what you can yank off a 4thgen....... start a topic on it. you'll get a list of parts, then have it put in the FAQ board.





i'll give some examples. every rear suspension piece swaps. but they are EXACTLY THE SAME as 3rdgen ones... no tech artical needed.

the rear end swaps in like stock too... someone wrote a tech artical for it anyway, its on the main page under "tech articals"

theres a billion T56 threads and install articals. if you cant find them, you need to work on your board usage skills. the main things you need are the basic install, and the details left out. tech articals at www.sethirdgen.org is a good basic artical, and stickied at the top of the transmissions board is my followup on what was missed. any more questioins, post in the trans board.

theres tons of 4thgen dash swap info. someone just started a new howto post lastnight.

the 4thgen seats bolt in. if you cant figure out how to use a 13mm socket and ratchet to get 4 nuts off, then please do all of us on the road a favor and never work on your car again.


there is ZERO need for adding another board for this. think about it.
NAME ONE THING THAT DOESNT APPLY UNDER A EXISTING HEADER.



as for how hard it is to add a board, thats NOT teh issue.
the issue is removal. if 90% of that board turns out to be repeated useless crap, how do we save the 10% of useful info? where does it go?



no. we dont need this board. nice thought, but not needed.

 

Thank you.