The hood projects are dead. I made the serious mistake of trusting a friend, who turned out to be a fiend. Should the need arise, you'll hear more about this...

 

If someone made a bolt on shaker hood like on the second gen T/As for the thirdgens I would definitely be in line to buy one! I would expect to pay around $400 maybe on the low side? I would definitely still buy it if it was more expensive though.

 

RA2 hood with the vents in the back, like the mecham hood for 4th gens:



Probably could ask over $550 since that's about what most RA2 hoods go for. So, $500-$700, depending on how much business you want to take away from the RA2 hood sellers.

 

I definitely like those vents. What does everyone else think? What if we did a Jongbloed/Sunoco style bump/cowl but put those vents at the top near the windshield?

 

I don't think the RA2 hood fits the 3rd gen bodies, and there are only 2 nostrils. On the 4th gens, with the lower 2 in the bumper cover, they do look good. And the roundness-look of the 2 "bumps" doesn't flow good with the square lines of the pre-90 bodies.

The hood on my Tahoe looked good, since it had all 4 nostrils, molded in to the hood:



RA1 hood with some kind of heat extractor vents in the rear? Not too bad of an idea.

But I like best, the initial ideas of a Jongbloed/Sunoco(which is just a copy of the Jongbloed) hoods. With or without the stock vents, but I prefer it WITH the vents:


Then there is FYRCKEN's hood, that I Photoshopped on to my car:


The problem with that hood, would be that it could limit the use of a TPI/LT1/Super Ram/....any kind of FI intake that pull air in from directly from the front. That extractor dip could interfere with the duct work. Same with any kind of extractor vents, like the hood that Firebat posted, that could become an interference problem with a tall intake plenum.

Or the hood that Gale Banks started building for his car. But it prevents use of it on TPI cars. No room for a filter for a TPI/Miniram/LT1 style manifold, much less a MAF sensor for the majority of the Firebirds. Sorry, I don't have any finished pics of it:

 

i love the 69 trans am hood
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...bird-1969a.jpg
but i also love the 67-69 400 hoods
http://www.firebirdfever.com/images/67.jpg
i think it would be rad with the hood tach
prices would be about 500 shipped for fiberglass, hood tach extra

 

This is my favorite hood:

 

He didn't ask what people's favorite designs are. He wants to know about NEW designs to make, not just reproducing a design that you can already buy elsewhere. If you want that one? Then go buy it. It is already out there.

Please people, stay on topic, don't litter this thread & don't ruin the chance we have to actually get something new made. I've put too many years into getting a new design made.....

 

i think that a jongbloed style hood for a bird would be great.

I need a hood for my TA and the wife doesnt like how cowl hoods look and im not a fan of ram air hoods on 3rd gens.

The jongbloed style would be nice if its was like 2.5" higher than stock.

 

That would look awsome, but I think it would need to be made a little bit more squared off to look right on a third gen

 

A functional shaker would be cool too.

 

i would have to say either the the jap style heat extractor hood or a Jongbloed/Sunoco with vents like the ones on the hood firebat posted.

edit: i would pay 600 to 700 shipped in primer as a direct bolt on also jj74sd455 idea of 67-69 400 with the tach would be a good idea.

 

That would be a sweet. Hood but can't hide a blower under it LOL.

 

i should probably add.

You need to make the jongbloed style with and without the vent cutouts.. give people options.

I personally would like to have the front vents but do away with the ones toward the windshield.

I have a nice little idea for the front vents and if i can get a hood like that with only the front vent cutouts, it would be GREAT.

I would pay $600 for something of that nature.

 

I agree with Stephen's comments about the RA II hood not flowing well with the lines of the 3rd gen. I think the RA I looks much better. But I like the fact that the RA II can be made into a functional ram air system. So, what I'd like to see is something like the RA I, but with the bulge a bit taller like the RA II, and with larger nostrils, squared off to better match the body lines, and set a little further back if necessary to line everything up. That way, you could stick a ram air box under the hood, and have generous clearance for Maggie or other blower.

 

Thanks again for the input guys!

As for the hood - Making a Jongbloed 'style' hood shouldn't be a problem. Just a couple of detail notes to cover: Do you want the actual bulge/cowl to go all the way to the windshield or do you want it to stop a little bit before the end of the hood, like the Formula scoop does?

The vents holes shouldn't be a problem either to produce, it is really more of a 'who wants em' kind of thing - I can see people with the T/As wanting them so they can swap the vents off the stock hood, but people w/o a T/A hood already are going to have to go searching for them or have holes in their hood... Personally, I like the idea of the scoops, but it still poses a potential problem.

As for the ram-air ideas, has anyone got a photoshop of something they'd want?

Thanks for the input, keep it coming!

 

YES PLEASE MAKE THIS ONE!!!!

 

stock looking bolt on trans am hood with functional vents.

 

I went to the local PullAPart yard today and looked for a hood for a Firebird. No luck, although I did score a set of T/A hood vents. Does anyone around East Tennessee have a Firebird hood in good shape to sell? I'm not having much luck finding a usable one.

 

I would say on the jongbloed style to run it all the way back like a normal cowl hood does.

What would options be as far as hood vents? Wonder how much work it would be to build them as ordered so people can choose which vents (if any) they want

 

I'm still looking for a Firebird hood - if anyone near Knoxville, TN has one, I need one to begin the mold process. We are thinking about offering both hoods, both with and w/o the vents.

 

Here are a couple of pics of the Ram Air I hood I mentioned earlier in case you're unfamiliar with it. I, ahem, borrowed..., these pics from other threads on the forum. The red car belongs to TGO member Zepher. I don't recall who owns the black one.

Again, what I'd like to see is for someone to make it about 1" taller, keeping the same profile. That would probably move the air inlets back about 4-6", putting them roughly in the same location as the inlets on the RA II hood. It would also make the inlets taller and wider, so that they could flow more air. The important thing would be to keep the inlets parallel to the front edges of the hood as they pretty much are now. The ones on the RA II hood are angled in relation to the front of the hood, and I don't think that looks good. It doesn't flow with the lines of the car. I also don't like the "dip" down the middle of the RA II, as that defeats one of the purposes of a high-rise hood: more hood clearance for taller manifolds, blowers, etc.

As far as the ridge down the center, I like it fine, but wouldn't mind if it was removed either. I'd probably put a large hood bird on top of the bulge either way.

 

X2

And ANY hood in carbon fiber.

 

thats hot

mayb add some t/a hood vents on he top....

 

if i could have found one simular to this i would have had to make it, i would have bought it

this is the one ive been workin on i dont mind the jongbloed/sunoco

i just think it looks funny so big and wide. this is pretty close to that except its about 4 1/2 inches in from the body line. it slill follows at the same angle. i seen a few that come back to the wind sheild, im not too excited about the way those look . i think they look stupid if they go back too far. this ones tilted just a little. maybe put vents on the sides? or use this with some kind of venting like the RA2. or maybe the same as the RA2 only turn them around? use only two?
maybe put something in the front corners in the open space above the headlights? or venting of some kind? ive been lookin through the site lookin for some custom hoods to see what could be done to this one to make it look better.. just cant find many ideas
I know the pics arent the best , sorry, but when you see the hood up close , it really does look pretty cool. just want it better.

 

Moving the inlets further back, would defeat the purpose of even having them by preventing having room for the filter and room for the MAF sensor, which is the majority of TPI cars. Only 2 years of TPI cars were MAP & didn't have the MAF sensors. Might as well just do a Jongbloed/Sunoco like I Photoshopped in the beginning, with no functional air inlet in them.

The only way a RA opening could actually be functional, would be if they were far enough forward, to make room for a filter (sorry about the small pic....only one I have)......

 

I respectfully disagree, Stephen. My suggestions were based on a close look at the RA II hood, which is functional with the optional air box. http://http://www.hawksthirdgenparts...icarsonly.aspx If you look at pics of the box on Hawks or other sites that carry it, it sits, roughly, on top of the radiator and fan shroud, well back from the front of the hood. I've never seen any references to it only working with MAP engines vs. MAF. All of the product descriptions state that it will work with any TPI engine from '82-'92. If that's not the case, I'd love to have confirmation of it.

My thinking was to modify the RA I so that it would work with the air box for the RA II. The box can't be moved forward much because of the hood latch mechanism. So, assuming the RA II with the air box does work with MAF as well as MAP, then it stands to reason that the RA I could be made functional if it was modified to mate up with the box for the RA II. That would mean increasing the clearance (raising it about an inch or so), and moving the inlets back to approximately where they are on the RA II (roughly even with the rear of the headlight doors). I'd prefer them to be as far forward as possible, though. If they could be left close to the front edge of the hood and ducted back to the air box, that would be cool, as long as the overall profile of the RA I didn't change too radically.

So please take a good look at the air box on Hawks and look at how it tucks into the bulge in the RA II hood. I may be crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong!

 

i think that RA hoods look "off" on a third gen. On a 4th gen, they fit because of how the bumper is setup.

Im still voting for jongbloed style.

 

Jongbloed.. I'd buy it quick.

 

how about a hood similer to the ram air but raised about an inch and with one big opening in the front like this
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Reminds me of what I called the Ram Air III hood.

Start with a RAII, but with both "scoops" merged and the 2 nostrils merged together.


My vote is still for the Jongbloed style hood I 'choped, with or without the GTA vents, but I prefer with them.

 

I feel it needs a divider in the middle of the opening, otherwise, looks awesome.

 

that was basicly my plan only with a ram air I. it would probably work either way.

 

One of the reasons I don't want a ramair style hood is that its going to be really hard to see over the front of it.. as if its not hard enough now

 

It may be a little late for my input but I would like to see what a '70 style formula hood would look like on a third gen.

 

I don't think it would be a problem, at least not for me. I don't find it hard to see over the hood at all. Differences in height and/or seat style maybe?

Your comment did remind me, though, of my old '84 TA. The seats in that car were noticeably lower than the lumbar seats in my '89 GTA. In the '84, I could barely see the top of the powerbulge! If the seat was reclined even one notch, it looked like the front of the car was right at the base of the windshield! It took me a while to learn where the front corners were when parking! In the GTA, I can see all the way to the edge of the front fascia.

 

I'm 6'5 and my car has 4th gen seats in it. I have no problem seeing the front of the car however my wife does.

Basically how I'm thinking is lay a 2x4 on your hood right in the middle, see how hard it is to see the passenger side corner.

 

I would like to see the RAI with scoops lower and taller cowl in rear.

 

Honestly, I'm not looking to make any sort of Ram air hood right now. I'm trying to offer something unlike anything else available for the bird or Camaro.

I am still on the hunt for a hood so we haven't been able to start mockup on anything, but we're leaning more towards the 'Jongbloed' style hood. I think we will ultimately be able to offer both a hood with and w/o the vents cutout, but we will probably start w/o them first. After we get a few hoods sold to cover initial cost, we can then get the vent style going. To those that are looking for this type of hood, what height do you want on the overall rise?

 

I would say 3" at the rear of the hood would be fine and allow clearance for whatever it is everyone has on their cars.

Personally I don't need extra hood clearance so 2" or 2.5" is plenty for me. I think mosy of the people on the board running a cowl hood have 3" so it looks like its popular.

 

I would like to see the ram air hoods for T/A 's with the tunnels farther apart looking more like the ones on camaros. I know thats hard to do since T/A's have the flip up head lights but there looks like there is room for some seperation there

 

Ok then +1 for the mecham style

 

Still my choice...






Was available 20 years ago, anybody know who got the molds?

 

Part #CHA169 Ships truck freight weighs 45lbs Costs $424.00 (+shipping)

http://www.fiberpartsconcepts.com/1289627.html


And yes, they still make it to this day. On Dec. 12, 2009, they told me.....
"Hey Stephen!
Yes, we do still produce the "Isma" style 82-92 F/bird hood....In fact we have sold 2 in the last few weeks!
It is an awesome hood! We also make a "Ram-Air style, and a 3" cowl induction hood, all of wich are listed on our website. Please let me know if you would like to order one, or have any other questions?!!!? thanks, Rob"

 

i'd like to see a style of hood like this shown. but with wider/narrower vents.

does anyone know where sells these? mine is crappy and am just curious on if I can find them anywhere else.

Hood
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/albu...pictureid=5669

 

Totally off the wall and just an idea but something like one of the GTO concept hoods, like a smaller RA2 but vents way back and less rounded.
http://sisuautomotive.files.wordpres...to-concept.jpg

 

We have such minimal engine clearance problems already, I don't think one that reduced what little we already have, would sell very well.

 

Still trying to locate a straight firebird hood, anyone got any leads? All I can seem to find here are tweaked or just plain unusable hoods. I've managed to find the T/A vents, but no complete hood.

 

What i was thinking is a combo of the factory trans am hood with the vents and the formula hood, so have the hump in its normal spot aloong with the vents! i think the price around 450$-550$ would be a good price, but if you decide to use this idea i get as many of these hoods as i like for free! haha


heres my 3rd gen bird check it out



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqgwLWX_mW0

 

I Like the the isma style hood as it is subtle and does not detract from the over all look of the car. I think the vents would make it functional and add a unique ram air look.