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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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Is this guy for real???

What do you guys think?? I tried his way, but it always dies right away, but starts and stays running always on the second try??? Is this because I have an electric fuel pump in the tank and a mechanical one under the hood and need to pump 1 or two times??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTltYiOqB0I
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

You have to hit the gas once to close the choke and once or twice more to squirt some fuel in if its cold.
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

Originally Posted by Camaro305SB
You have to hit the gas once to close the choke and once or twice more to squirt some fuel in if its cold.
That's the way I normally start mine, but in this guy's video he just taps the gas pedal and never touches it after is starts, and says if you do it any other way your choke isn't set right????
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

You do not have to blip the throttle, you just slowly move the accelerator all the way down. Back in the days everyone knew how to put the choke on/high idle cam. Nowadays it's a lost art LOL
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

Yes he is for real. Like Twin-Turbo said it's a lost art. I used to have to teach customers how to start their car. Push the pedal down once let off the gas then crank. They'd be like " Ive been driving for forty years! I know how to start a car!! " Comes to find out they didn't know how for forty years LOL. There used to be a label on the back of the sun visor that had the proper starting procedure but nobody ever read that.....
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 06:34 AM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

Pressing the gas pedal before starting a cold engine used to be just one of those things you did back in the day. Now many of the "fuel injection era" have no knowlege of that.

One other piece of lost wisdom is holding the pedal all the way to the floor while cranking to clear a flooded engine (it manually pops the choke open via a linkage built into the carb). EFI engines still have this provision but it's programmed in the software.
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

What drives me nuts are the people who just wail away on the gas pedal while they crank, pumping it about 50 times, flooding the engine and washing down the cylinder walls before it has a chance to finally catch and blow a black cloud out the tailpipe. Usually they'll make some comment about how carburetors naturally take longer to start than fuel injection.

Makes me want to beat them about the head and neck with a 2x4.
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 09:49 AM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

I was taught the one pump then crank method. Most of my cars have been carbuerated. Although in Texas there are not many days you have a cold car to start
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 09:53 AM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

What's cold for an engine and cold for the driver are very different.
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

True but 90 degrees outside isn't cold for the motor
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

90 degrees is cold for the motor, but not frigid. It's not that the motor isn't cold, it's that it's not cold for very long.
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 10:10 AM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

Even at a 90* Air Temp, flip open your hood and touch your block - chill to the touch... Not to even mention the Oil Temp being absolutely nothing...
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

Originally Posted by Apeiron
90 degrees is cold for the motor, but not frigid. It's not that the motor isn't cold, it's that it's not cold for very long.

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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 11:50 PM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

AMEN X2
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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If you have to depress the accelerator pedal all the way down in anything other than below freezing temps, or once or twice more, your carburetor and/or ignition tuning is improper.

"Cold" is relative to the evaporation of gasoline. Liquid doesn't burn. Gasoline doesn't evaporate quickly enough in a cold engine, so "EFE" has been employed since before most of you were born.

One of the beauties of fuel injection is the fuel goes from high to low pressure via the injector nozzle. Guess what happens when you do that?
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Old May 6, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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Re: Is this guy for real???

Back when fuel injection first came they'd tell customers to put the key in the ignition, roll the window down, get out of the car, reach in, and start it.
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