Cooling Discuss all of the aspects of cooling that you can think of! Radiators, transmissions, electric fans, etc.

cant get temp sensor in hole!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 06:42 PM
  #1  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
cant get temp sensor in hole!

i just tried changing my temp sender, i got the old one out, but i cant get the new one in, it just sits and spins on me and idk what to do!, whats causing this to not want to start?
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 07:11 PM
  #2  
irock88's Avatar
Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 399
Likes: 1
From: Toronto, Ontario
Car: 88 (SOLD) & 90 Iroc convertibles
Engine: 5.0 TPI, 5.0 TPI
Transmission: 5 speed & auto
Axle/Gears: 3.08 & 2.73
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

This is a crazy question but are they identical.If so try turning it counter clock wise a few turns then turn it clockwise and see if it grabs .Also make sure you dont have it on a slight angle .
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 07:16 PM
  #3  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

Originally Posted by irock88
This is a crazy question but are they identical.If so try turning it counter clock wise a few turns then turn it clockwise and see if it grabs .Also make sure you dont have it on a slight angle .
yea they are, the pintle? is alittle bigger but not much, iv tried going both ways, and nothing changed
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 07:42 PM
  #4  
irock88's Avatar
Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 399
Likes: 1
From: Toronto, Ontario
Car: 88 (SOLD) & 90 Iroc convertibles
Engine: 5.0 TPI, 5.0 TPI
Transmission: 5 speed & auto
Axle/Gears: 3.08 & 2.73
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

To me it sounds like you may have an incorrect temp sensor. I believe it should be straight forward to install.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 07:53 PM
  #5  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

thats what i thought, im gonna try again tomorrow, if i cant get it im runnin to autozone
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 11:21 AM
  #6  
91phoenix's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 916
Likes: 9
From: Wichita Falls, TX
Car: 91 Firebird,00 c2500,75 Vette
Engine: 3.1 but 350 soon, 350, 350
Transmission: T56 soon
Axle/Gears: stock 3.42 Posi to come
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

It may or may not be helpful as to the problem but I have seen some temp sensors that were designed with the threaded area not tapered at all. Most blocks have a tapered pipe thread and though they will thread in it is hard to get them to start. It is the right tpi and diameter but the wrong style bolt vs pipe. (I know it makes no sense but true) I have personally seen this on some factory updates. (Not our cars) The sensor only threaded in about two or three turns after fighting to get it started.
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 11:36 AM
  #7  
camaronewbie's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,192
Likes: 20
From: Cary, North Carolina
Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

And are you asking for the right part? There are 3 possibilities on these cars.

1) Fan switch - pass side head between #6 & #8 cylinder - runs the fan
2) Coolant Temp Sensor - in the thermostat housing - tells ECM the temp
3) Coolant Temp Sender - driv side head between #1 & #3 - for guage

Which one do you need, and which are you asking for?
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 06:05 PM
  #8  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

im not finding the sender on autozone, yes thats what i need to replace but i got the sensor and im trying to put it under the plenum near the thermostat housing but its not going inm i need the sender for my gauge
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 06:31 PM
  #9  
henryd3's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (128)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 41
From: Central California
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

Sounds like you're working in area #2 in the post above, but for the sensor that makes your gauge work, you need to be putting it in area #3
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 06:46 PM
  #10  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

do the sensors look the same?
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 07:41 PM
  #11  
henryd3's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (128)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 41
From: Central California
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

Similar, but the connectors are different, #1 has a roundish end for a 1 wire connector, $2 is a two wire plug with a snap in connector and #3 is a 1 wire deal with a slip-on kind of clip. There's pictures of them all on here somewhere. I'll try and find it
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 07:47 PM
  #12  
henryd3's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (128)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 41
From: Central California
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

Check out post #30 on this thread. Shows them all, although in a different order than the list above
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/cool...ernatives.html
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 08:01 PM
  #13  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

ok iv got the sensor and im trying to replace the sensor so im in the right spot just the wrong part i was needing, i still need to replace this because the little black part that the connector attachs too broke off the original so i need to replace that sensor, help???
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 08:11 PM
  #14  
henryd3's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (128)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 41
From: Central California
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

I'm not sure what you're asking for help with now. Could you ask a clear question?
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 08:25 PM
  #15  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

im trying to replace the temp sensor, near the plenum, i cant get it to go in, why?
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2011 | 08:50 PM
  #16  
henryd3's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (128)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 41
From: Central California
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

No idea, as long as you have the correct CTS for your engine it should just screw right in
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2011 | 10:44 AM
  #17  
camaronewbie's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,192
Likes: 20
From: Cary, North Carolina
Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

Why not take the old one to the auto parts store and verify size/style/thread pitch?
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2011 | 06:42 PM
  #18  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

cars the only way of transport, cant have that out and the car running
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2011 | 07:45 PM
  #19  
henryd3's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (128)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 41
From: Central California
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

If you have the old one out, when you hold the new one up next to it, is the thread size the same on both or can you see a difference?
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2011 | 07:46 PM
  #20  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

i did, i didnt see a difference besides the new one being alittle longer and the pintle being bigger
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2011 | 08:43 PM
  #21  
henryd3's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (128)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 41
From: Central California
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

Doesn't seem like if it was the right one there should be any difference. If one screws in and one doesn't that kind of points to something being different. If the threads are a finer pitch(closer together) for example, that would make it not work while appearing nearly the same.. Have you tried telling the parts person where you got it that it seems to be the wrong one and see what they can turn up? Maybe the fact that it is longer and bigger makes it bottom out or hit something not allowing it to reach the threads ?
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2011 | 08:57 PM
  #22  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

im taking it back tomorrow, hopefully auto zone has the right one.....
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2011 | 09:04 PM
  #23  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

could it be a water temp sensor?, i found that one on autozone and it looks kinda the same
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2011 | 06:13 PM
  #24  
henryd3's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (128)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 41
From: Central California
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

Reread post#7 slowly a few times
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2011 | 07:30 PM
  #25  
camaronewbie's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,192
Likes: 20
From: Cary, North Carolina
Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

This is the Coolant Temp sensor - it goes IN the thermostat housing, not beside it:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...er=146258_0_0_

This is the Coolant Fan Switch - it goes in pass side head:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...equestid=19220

This is the Coolant Tempurature Sender - it goes in driver side head:
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...S_575808512___

Autozone I can't find a guage sender, but advance it was easy to find.

{edit}

Forgot this is a V6 - not sure locations are exactly the same on the heads as a V8 - but should be as fan switch gets info from a water passage and so does guage sender, and the only water passages I know of regardless of number of cylinders are in the heads.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 02:11 PM
  #26  
evilemokid94's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,670
Likes: 3
From: Elwood, IN
Car: 1986 camaro Sports Coupe
Engine: L31 350
Transmission: 89 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 gov lock
Re: cant get temp sensor in hole!

found it, the threads on the original was messed up so i got it replaced and found the sender, its behind the damn ac unit, had to take that all apart and the bracket to get the thing in.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Bubbajones_ya
Cooling
24
Jul 6, 2024 08:32 PM
gta892000
TPI
13
Aug 11, 2019 11:16 AM
86IROC112
Cooling
6
Sep 11, 2015 04:04 PM
FormulasOnly
Tech / General Engine
3
Sep 10, 2015 09:07 PM
85Special
DIY PROM
1
Sep 3, 2015 04:21 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:02 AM.