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Old 09-21-2018, 10:09 PM
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Injector Flow Rate vs Injector Flow Rate(display) in Tunerpro

I put aftermarket 16 lb injectors in my 3.1l and now it consistently runs slightly rich(14.0 when OL idle wants 12 on a wideband). Not enough to even dirty the plugs.
I've heard others talk about some equation with injector flow rate vs fuel pressure and was wondering if either of these 2 options dealt with that. I'm running a modified BAWX bin with 14° timing 1.6 roller too rockers and heades
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Re: Injector Flow Rate vs Injector Flow Rate(display) in Tunerpro

Need to check the BIN addresses in the XDF to see which one is which. This is the injector flow rate used for idle:
Code:
L86BA FDB 0608 ; idle injector constant
; 0.2375 SEC/GM PRODUCT OF INJECTOR FLOW RATE AND FUEL
This is the one used for the 'display', which our cars don't use:
Code:
L86BC FDB 0512 ; N/U, 2.667 GL/HR SINGLE INJECTOR FLOW RATE IN GALLONS/HOUR
Then the BPC for use when not in idle:
Code:
; --------------------------------------
;
; Injector Constant vs. EGR airflow
;
; BPC
;
; --------------------------------------
; Val = 730.75 * (VOL/RATE)
; VOL = Vol of 1 Cylinder in liters
; RATE = Injector flow in gms/sec
;
; convert: #/hr = (gmSec / 453.6) * 3600
;
; convert: gmSec = (#/hr * 453.6) / 3600

;-----------------------------
; ; BPC ; airflow
;-----------------------------
L8754 FCB 182 ; 0
FCB 179 ; 16
FCB 176 ; 32
FCB 173 ; 48
FCB 172 ; 64
FCB 167 ; 80
FCB 162 ; 96
FCB 160 ; 112
FCB 158 ; 128
FCB 153 ; 144
FCB 151 ; 160
FCB 151 ; 176
FCB 151 ; 192
FCB 151 ; 208
FCB 151 ; 224
FCB 151 ; 240
FCB 151 ; 255
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:30 AM
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Re: Injector Flow Rate vs Injector Flow Rate(display) in Tunerpro

Originally Posted by RBob
Need to check the BIN addresses in the XDF to see which one is which. This is the injector flow rate used for idle:
Code:
L86BA FDB 0608 ; idle injector constant
; 0.2375 SEC/GM PRODUCT OF INJECTOR FLOW RATE AND FUEL

Code:
; --------------------------------------
;
;
; --------------------------------------
; Val = 730.75 * (VOL/RATE)
; VOL = Vol of 1 Cylinder in liters
; RATE = Injector flow in gms/sec
;
; convert: #/hr = (gmSec / 453.6) * 3600
;
; convert: gmSec = (#/hr * 453.6) / 3600
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ok I'm confused. If I understand properly, according to the formula at the bottom the bold number would come out to about 1.8 lbs/hr.
Where did you get .2375?
In my tune location Ox6BA is 02 and Ox6BB is 60 which work out to the "raw hex data" of 0260 for the 16.71#(what TP insists on changing 16# to) injectors.
I haven't done any hex editing before so I'm sorry if I'm slow getting it.
Also what is with the VAL=xxx /VOL=xxx /rate? Where is that used?
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Re: Injector Flow Rate vs Injector Flow Rate(display) in Tunerpro

Originally Posted by broke91firebird
ok I'm confused. If I understand properly, according to the formula at the bottom the bold number would come out to about 1.8 lbs/hr.
Where did you get .2375?
In my tune location Ox6BA is 02 and Ox6BB is 60 which work out to the "raw hex data" of 0260 for the 16.71#(what TP insists on changing 16# to) injectors.
I haven't done any hex editing before so I'm sorry if I'm slow getting it.
Also what is with the VAL=xxx /VOL=xxx /rate? Where is that used?
The 0.2375 Sec/Gm is the flow of the injector, not the conversion formula. That comment came from the $A1 calibration hac.

The table of BPC values is used whenever the engine isn't in idle. If is based on the EGR flow rate. The "Val = 730.75 * (VOL/RATE)" equation is used to calculate the BPC value at 0% EGR.

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