AFR Eliminator #1040's!
10-28-2011, 09:22 PM
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Re: AFR Eliminator #1040's!
Well, I received my box from AFR a few days ago, but I haven't taken the time to open the package. Now the fun starts. 383 in the works.
11-18-2011, 08:48 PM
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Re: AFR Eliminator #1040's!
FYI.
Price will be most likely be going up on these Jan 1st.
If you are thinking about a set of AFR's. Now might be a good time.....
Take care!
Price will be most likely be going up on these Jan 1st.
If you are thinking about a set of AFR's. Now might be a good time.....
Take care!
11-19-2011, 01:34 AM
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can i also get a price on vortecs. and shipping to alaska 99505 zip. thanks.
11-19-2011, 06:41 AM
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if you are serious i will figure out the shipping......
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11-21-2011, 10:08 AM
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Re: AFR Eliminator #1040's!
im trying to plan a 406 build and im going with old school solid lifters will these heads work for that, and is so will i have to change the spings ?
11-21-2011, 11:42 AM
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Re: AFR Eliminator #1040's!
the 1040's will work, but wont optimize your setup, but mine isnt optimized either.....
they come with springs for hyd. roller, but AFR can switch them out for solid roller if you like.
maybe some 210's or 220's?
later.
11-21-2011, 01:22 PM
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Im concerned about going with too large of runners because this will be a street car and i want to maintain some steet manners. as for the solid lifters i mean real old school without the rollers
11-21-2011, 10:20 PM
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Re: AFR Eliminator #1040's!
well u can contact AFR and see what they think. tony is the guy to talk too.
if you want a set then just let me know.
take care.
11-21-2011, 10:32 PM
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Regarding large cc's on heads. I am now running a set of AFR 210's that have been worked over by Joe Sherman and then by Dr J to best fit my combination. They are now at 222cc and after driving the car today it has not lost one bit of its street manners. Idles very nicely and will break the tires loose in a heartbeat with plenty of low end grunt. This is a 369" motor. The throttle response is razor sharp. You give it some gas and "something happens". No sluggishness.
My thoughts on heads has certainly changed in the last few months. With a 406 motor I would not hesitate to go with the 220 heads. You will not be sorry.
My thoughts on heads has certainly changed in the last few months. With a 406 motor I would not hesitate to go with the 220 heads. You will not be sorry.
11-22-2011, 09:43 AM
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Regarding large cc's on heads. I am now running a set of AFR 210's that have been worked over by Joe Sherman and then by Dr J to best fit my combination. They are now at 222cc and after driving the car today it has not lost one bit of its street manners. Idles very nicely and will break the tires loose in a heartbeat with plenty of low end grunt. This is a 369" motor. The throttle response is razor sharp. You give it some gas and "something happens". No sluggishness.
My thoughts on heads has certainly changed in the last few months. With a 406 motor I would not hesitate to go with the 220 heads. You will not be sorry.
My thoughts on heads has certainly changed in the last few months. With a 406 motor I would not hesitate to go with the 220 heads. You will not be sorry.
keep us updated on the gains....
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11-22-2011, 09:53 AM
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See post 278 in this thread for the flow numbers. On Dr J bench.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tpi/...-runner-6.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tpi/...-runner-6.html
11-25-2011, 06:47 PM
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sounds as though yours are heavily ported I was just going to install them out of the box.
11-26-2011, 12:36 PM
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sorry that was for 89 GTA with the 369 and the 210 s ported to 222
11-26-2011, 01:18 PM
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Re: AFR Eliminator #1040's!
im trying to plan a 406 build and im going with old school solid lifters will these heads work for that, and is so will i have to change the spings ?
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Depends if its a solid flat tappet or solid roller.
If you want street manners go with a mild cam (for the cubic inches) or a properly made cam..
I run a 250deg ish @.050 dur with a lift of just under .700 ish lift on a 110 lobe sep and a auto trans. built, stuffed it n my car (without a tune) and drove 6 hrs 2 Dayton OH and got 20ish mpg with a 3.73 gear.
To big of head argument is for the old days of running stumble-rators and poor performing heads.
Fuel injection has helped a lot. I'm a fan of atleast 210cc intake runners on a 350.. And as with any head change, it will perform as long as you have the rest of the parts to make it work properly. If you plan on future mods, y buy a set of heads now and then have to change them later??
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Depends if its a solid flat tappet or solid roller.
If you want street manners go with a mild cam (for the cubic inches) or a properly made cam..
I run a 250deg ish @.050 dur with a lift of just under .700 ish lift on a 110 lobe sep and a auto trans. built, stuffed it n my car (without a tune) and drove 6 hrs 2 Dayton OH and got 20ish mpg with a 3.73 gear.
To big of head argument is for the old days of running stumble-rators and poor performing heads.
Fuel injection has helped a lot. I'm a fan of atleast 210cc intake runners on a 350.. And as with any head change, it will perform as long as you have the rest of the parts to make it work properly. If you plan on future mods, y buy a set of heads now and then have to change them later??
11-26-2011, 04:10 PM
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Yes, they have been reworked pretty good from the original AFR 210 heads. However the throttle response has not suffered one bit compared to my AFR 195 Competition heads that were on the car. The car really scoots when you give it some gas and is really fun to drive. I can not give it full throttle below say 40mph without the rear tires just breaking loose. I just went wide open throttle today for the first time.
11-26-2011, 05:16 PM
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im going with solid flat tapet with carb havent decided on cam yet my friend is an old school engine builder and is helping me plan this but I definetly want some good heads and ive heard afr is a quality product at a decent price
11-27-2011, 10:35 AM
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A LOT of things have changed since school was old. Basics are the same tho.
11-30-2011, 05:08 AM
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Re: AFR Eliminator #1040's!
FYI. The price for the 1040's come next year will be $1349 guys....
I guess everything in life including the cost of cylinder heads is going up.
I guess everything in life including the cost of cylinder heads is going up.
12-01-2011, 07:07 PM
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Personally, I'd go hydraulic roller in that 406. The old farts with the solid flat tappet cams are stuck in the 60s, when muscle cars made as much power as a 2011 V6, and needed a rebuild every 20k.
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12-01-2011, 08:16 PM
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check afr's web site under dyno combos one of the most powerful combos for the naturally aspirated 400 sbc was 574 ponies and 534 torque with solid flat tappet thats a lot of power to me
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Mine is close to the 503hp 383, same cam, but I have more compression and more cubes. Probably around 510 hp.
I'm not into adjusting valves weekly, and flattening cam lobes because of bad oil.
Either way, the 1040s are a great head as you can see from those combos.
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12-11-2011, 07:23 PM
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Very pleased with the process so far. Same day I paid my money I got a receipt from AFR with a shipping date to my house. Thanks again 88BlackZ-51 Top notch seller in my book.
Looks like prices are going up after the first of the year, if your on the fence you better pull the trigger.
Looks like prices are going up after the first of the year, if your on the fence you better pull the trigger.
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Re: AFR Eliminator #1040's!
Very pleased with the process so far. Same day I paid my money I got a receipt from AFR with a shipping date to my house. Thanks again 88BlackZ-51 Top notch seller in my book.
Looks like prices are going up after the first of the year, if your on the fence you better pull the trigger.
Looks like prices are going up after the first of the year, if your on the fence you better pull the trigger.
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Re: AFR Eliminator #1040's!
With a 406 motor I would not hesitate to go with the 220 heads. You will not be sorry.
They would walk all over the Dart 230s I have now.
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Guy with the solid flat tappet, Talk to Tony or Jeremy
Depending on your cam youll probably want less spring pressure than what they come with. 120-140 tops on the seat would be my guess.
Use a quality roller rocker and you shouldnt have to adjust very often at all.