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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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LS1 install ?

So if i already have the motor and everything...how much approx...should i expect on paying to get it all installed. if i have motor and the kit from thirdgenresource???
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Re: LS1 install ?

Originally posted by ghettosmurf
So if i already have the motor and everything...how much approx...should i expect on paying to get it all installed. if i have motor and the kit from thirdgenresource???
To tough to tell. I am sure you will get varying quotes. A shop who has never done such a swap would cost a lot more than one that has. Trouble is, there are only a handfull of LS1 swaps out there so it's not like shops have a lot of experience with this.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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so would i be better off just going to someone like to thirdgenresource...or some place reputable and have them do it?
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by ghettosmurf
so would i be better off just going to someone like to thirdgenresource...or some place reputable and have them do it?
I would only if I wasn't capable of doing it myself. They have done some and I bet they could do another one more efficiently and cheaper than the first few.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Wonder if http://www.azspeed-marine.com does conversions/swaps, or just supports with components.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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FLYNLOW92 had his LS1 installed for him, but I don't remember where. I think it was one of this site's sponsors. He seems pretty happy with what he paid for it.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Installing the thing is so easy. The wiring and the exhaust and the small stuff is the main problem. If you dont wanna do the wiring yourself like I am... good luck is all I have to say. You will need helms manuals for both cars which will run 125 for the 4th gen and about 80 for the 3rd gen. YOu could go to Speartech.com and see what they can do for you. Speartech is where 3rd gen resource got thier harness so dont buy their highly over priced one from 3rd gen resource. I have over 5 grand in this thing already, including the motor and I am almost done. Tho I have a new bigger cam, comp cams valvetrain, custom stage 3 port & polish on my heads and all that fun stuff.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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Ghettosmurf

I still have my original invoice on what i paid for everything

What exactly do you need done? Do you need a wiring harness, exhaust fab, removal of old engine, are you gonna be running A/C

With some more information, I can provide you with exact financial figures on what labor/parts will cost you when having someone else install an LS1
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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im not sure on exactly what needs to be done....but i have a 2000 LS1. complete motor. i do need the wiring harness, and would like to run AC. basically just to drive to a shop and drop my car off and drop the motor off with it and say...put this in..you know what im saying? i dotn know what i need done with the exhaust. i want to run headers but i know you cant so what are some other options? and i wanted a new gauge cluster as well.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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here is a good thread to look at to get alot of info on it. It covers the headers (there are some companys that might be designing headers specifically for the thirdgen ls1 swap) and notching the k-member for the A/C.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...0&pagenumber=1

I personally havent done it yet but ive been researching it alot because i want too. Id suggest getting a good cluster from a junkyard that way you keep your costs down.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by ghettosmurf
im not sure on exactly what needs to be done....but i have a 2000 LS1. complete motor. i do need the wiring harness, and would like to run AC. basically just to drive to a shop and drop my car off and drop the motor off with it and say...put this in..you know what im saying? i dotn know what i need done with the exhaust. i want to run headers but i know you cant so what are some other options? and i wanted a new gauge cluster as well.
Run the stock exahust manifolds, don't waste money on headers, trust me, it's not worth it......I put nitrous on my car for about the same price as getting some custom headers installed....

Wiring Harness - $750
Exhaust Fab work - $200
A/C Bracket - $160
Air Intake - $175
Fuel System - $300

Labor was around $1,150 for removing the engine and installing everything needed for just the engine (re-program PCM, wiring, new motor mounts, A/C)

Please keep in mind i dropped enough money to buy 2 thirdgens, so obviously i got some free stuff included and got deals on other parts since i bought something new every week....lol

A/C is a major decision that can be made, if you don't go with installing A/C you can save nearly 3-400 on installtion and don't need to buy the extra parts...

What cluster are you refering to?
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 01:20 AM
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Well i kind of HAVE to have A/C...im in Phx, AZ and its a daily driver...it was like 111 degrees today. and the cluster i have now is the mechanical one so i figured that wouldnt adapt too well. and i know the tach gauge will be way different and i wanted a new speedo as well...so basically im lookin at what 4000 for everything excluding motor?
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by ghettosmurf
Well i kind of HAVE to have A/C...im in Phx, AZ and its a daily driver...it was like 111 degrees today. and the cluster i have now is the mechanical one so i figured that wouldnt adapt too well. and i know the tach gauge will be way different and i wanted a new speedo as well...so basically im lookin at what 4000 for everything excluding motor?
Remember, you can save money yourself by installing the fuel system......Installing the new required fuel pump means dropping the tank.......which results in large amounts of labor rates

If you have someone install the engine, all the fbodymotorsports stuff and the exahust......I would say $2,500 is reasonable

Then you buy the fuel system and you install it yourself, FYI you don't need the fuel lines that they sell, you can modify the 4th gen ones to fit

Total said and done, $3,250-3,500 is the most i would pay.....parts and labor....

On a side note, no matter what he did, Roy could not get the tach to work....only read 60% of the actual engine rpm's (doesn't work on his car either)
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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So that IS your car at fbodymotorsports Flynlow
i emailed them for estimates of swapping an lti-6spd, and ls1 6spd into my 92RS. im workign on saving up the cash to get it done.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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So that IS your car at fbodymotorsports Flynlow
i emailed them for estimates of swapping an lti-6spd, and ls1 6spd into my 92RS. im workign on saving up the cash to get it done.
Yup, that's my car...

did they respond to your request for an estimate yet?
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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On a side note, no matter what he did, Roy could not get the tach to work....only read 60% of the actual engine rpm's (doesn't work on his car either)
Damn that sucks. I think that will drive me crazy! Did they try the recalabration box and everything? If that doesn't work I will be getting a different tach because this engines love to spin up untill they pop or a nice missed shift gets them.

BTW I wussed out and I am dropping my car off at a shop on the 16th. To many problems going on and not enough help for the project. (Buddy got messed up on a dirt bike) I did manage to get the car stripped myself!! That should cut down on the cost of things a little. I was told they would have the car for about 4 weeks but the list of stuff I have them working on might push that up. Ex. New heads, cam, UD pullies, large TB, dyno tune.... I think my project got a little out of hand. I just can't wait untill it is done so I can meet up with some of the local guys and also some of you at car shows.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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I think my project got a little out of hand. I just can't wait untill it is done so I can meet up with some of the local guys and also some of you at car shows.
:werd:, it's so easy to get out of control, but the final bill seems to reflect all that crazy spending.......

I have no idea about a caliberation box, since it doesn't bother me, it's not even an option that i looked into....

I would just suggest an aftermarket tach if it bothers you.......I just know that 3,000 RPM's is too much...

Plus i drive a T56, so i know when to shift, I don't need a tach telling me........

That will be one mean beast when you pick it up.....hope you got something just as mean to put that power to the ground......unless introduce yourself to the local tire shop manager....or get familiar navigating www.tirerack.com
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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i was just given a number to call for the estimate.
guess ill give him a clal tomarrow afternoon. and maybe in te morning go to te junk yard and look for an lt1 or ls1 and 6 spd tranny...
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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That will be one mean beast when you pick it up.....hope you got something just as mean to put that power to the ground......unless introduce yourself to the local tire shop manager....or get familiar navigating www.tirerack.com
Thanks!!

I might be going with a 9 inch but I am still kicking that around. The problem is that I want a performance car and not just a drag setup. I don't know if I want the strong rear that sucks a little power or a 12 bolt that is better on power but is weaker. I already have a Carbo Fiber DS that needs a 1350 yoke so a rear is needed from the get go besides its not worth trashing my stock 3.42 posi if it can be used in another car. ZR1 wheels will be fitted (Soon after getting the car back) 9.5 in the front and 11 in the rear. I was a little sick after seeing how much the rubber was going to cost but I was told I would get I good deal. I hope so because the first set will go up in smoke in a few days while I learn how to drive this thing. lol
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by Burn
Thanks!!

I might be going with a 9 inch but I am still kicking that around. The problem is that I want a performance car and not just a drag setup. I don't know if I want the strong rear that sucks a little power or a 12 bolt that is better on power but is weaker. I already have a Carbo Fiber DS that needs a 1350 yoke so a rear is needed from the get go besides its not worth trashing my stock 3.42 posi if it can be used in another car. ZR1 wheels will be fitted (Soon after getting the car back) 9.5 in the front and 11 in the rear. I was a little sick after seeing how much the rubber was going to cost but I was told I would get I good deal. I hope so because the first set will go up in smoke in a few days while I learn how to drive this thing. lol
On a side note

Here is what nearly 400 HP and some sticky tires did to an LS1 Aluminum driveshaft.....

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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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Thank *** for Carbon Fiber! It should be good for alot more than I can muster. (800+hp) I have also heard of steel shafts breaking on another board. When it went it smashed the crap out of the bottem of the car and if it wasn't for the safty loop the guy said that would have been his last race. I am not saying that the CF shaft will not break but when it goes it just falls apart.
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