Yor

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...40665202#v4-38

I saw this listing in my local area on ebay since I posted a classified on Craigslist in NH looking for a nice, original summer cruiser.

He emailed me with his link, and he said a buyout right now price of 3200 is what he'd let it go for, if he didn't get that he'd be keeping it.

With only 69k miles on it, being a nearly all original Z28 (with the exception of a repaint and some quarter repair), it is all stock. Apparently no rust, which may be possible with the low miles and being a pampered vehicle by the sounds of it.

In NH titles are not required for vehicles over 15 years old, so this is not an issue for me.. he also has the factory rear window louvers, just not on the car.

Any opinions? I personally dig the gold accents with beige interior, and it's a beautiful shade of red.

BTW- anyone in the New england area, please don't bid on it, or I'll be horribly sad.

lol

Thirdgen Ranch

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That looks like a pretty nice car for $3200. I'd say it's a good deal.

Drew

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03/24/1994 MA 60,425 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:AL0166071) SALVAGE

Run, don't walk.

If it's legit, the add is way short on pics to prove it's true condition. The lack of title, and a salvage title on the history report is a deal breaker.

Yor

He actually sent me quite a few pictures of the vehicle, I got 8 more on my computer and then those 4 from the listing.

He's stating the damage was a hit to the left rear quarter, which had entirely removed and replaced. I saw that at first as well and was and still am worried about it. Like he states in the ad, it was bought from an auction..

It also shows that it had been registered 8 or so times since the salvage occurred, which is why I assumed if it was a stolen vehicle, it would've been tracked by now due to being registered 8 times.

He's also going to be contacting the DMV to see if a renewed title can be issued to it, but the process is a bit difficult in New Hampshire.

Yor

I have been looking this over all for the last day or so that I saw this camaro up and listed, and I'm piecing together ways I can get around this salvage title issue if this thing is really in the shape I've seen in all of these pictures..
Whadda you guys think?

How can I sell a vehicle 15 years of age or older that does not require a title? Exception Heavy trucks)

• If you have a title, transfer ownership to the buyer on the reverse side.
• Provide a bill of sale (TDMV22A ) and a properly filled out Verification of Vehicle Identification (TDMV19a) .
• Provide a bill of sale (TDMV22A ) and a copy of the previous registration or title.

^--- That is saying I can use that print out transfer sheet to transfer the non-titled vehicle, and he does have several previous registrations of it lying around.

Hm.

EDIT!: Gah, sorry for the double post, my b. ><

Drew

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It doesn't LOOK bad on the surface, but cars are given salvage titles to protect you the potential buyer from buying a car that's substained heavy damage. At some point the damage cost more to fix then the car was worth. Without a title, in most cases a car is worthless. Or at least it's only worth it's value in parts. Even if you can get the title sorted out, you've still got that salvage title history that will stay with the car forever. It'll make it that much harder to sell the car when the time comes.

For that kind of money you should be able to locate a fairly decent car with a clean title. If you absolutely love the car, and can get the paperwork fixed, go for it.

Yor

I understand this, like I said I'm not 100% dead set on this car, but for the mileage and visible condition of it I'm very impressed by it, and as long as it stays in New Hampshire, a title isn't required on a 15+ year old car. My first car only came with a bill of sale and old registration, and it had been sitting in someone's yard for 3 years nearly, that needed easily more than the value of the vehicle in repairs. That's why I never really cared much for the salvage title nature, because you can find complete POS cars with clean titles that have no floorboards and a junk motor.

A salvage title vehicle is indeed a vehicle that substained damage worth 75% or more of it's value at the time, but when the salvage occurred that was in 1994, when this z was at one of it's lowest value points ever really.

I really do appreciate your opinion on this matter though, thank you very much.

scottmoyer

If the rear quarter was the cause for salvage and you can get the car to a mechanic to check out the alignment of the body and structure, and all is good, I'd jump on it. There are very few Z28s that you see anymore still looking like a Z28 Almost all of them are trashed or have been converted to an IROC-Z clone. Again, I would have it checked out. Why have there been so many transfers since the damage. Does it not drive right and will cost $$ to repair? Did the damage ruin the tranny or rear end and the repair shop only went for cosmetics? You need to find out. If it checks out clean by a mechanic, I would consider the car. If your plan is to buy it and then resell it, you may have issues with the salvage title.

Yor

Those are registrations, not transfers. In NH you have to register your vehicle every year, not sure if it's different anywhere else or not, but they weer all done in the same town by presumably the same owner. I'm still getting the facts from him, but if this thing is straight and solid then I'm jumping on it.

After it's 25 years old I can replace the missing title with an Antique title which just requires minor paperwork that I've already seen.

Only 1 bid has been made in the last 24 hours and it was for 2375, so I don't think he'll be selling it on Ebay. The deadline is 4 1/2 from now.

If I did end up purchasing it, I'd be keeping it for a long long time, it's not a car I would just buy and resell, it's a true classic, practically all original low miles Z.

Drew

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Unless you buy it and find out the car is a total nightmare, and then you're stuck with it because no one else will buy a car with a Salvage Title.

Camaro Z Man

I would look it over really good and take it on a good test drive. If everything is in good shape and it runs and drives good, I would buy it. It looks very nice. Seems like a fair price.

87 player bird

run away.

Yor

Couldn't run if I wanted to, looks like someone put a bid of 3300 on for it so it's sold anyhow.

Ah well, there's plenty more out there.

musclecar70sfan

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Did anybody else notice the RS front nose?

Paigesdad

Keep looking. Decent cars are out there...even in our neck of the woods.

Drew

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Fog lights were optional on the Z28, theoretically that could be the correct grill.

musclecar70sfan

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Oh I never knew that lol. I just thought that they removed the foglights and kept the grill the same like in this car.

http://media.motortopia.com/files/54...6/IMAG0039.jpg

yo soy el warg

The blue car your looking at has an Iroc grill and it is missing the fog lights. The red one that sold on ebay has a Z28 grill. The difference is that the Iroc grill has openings on each side of the license mounting area for the fog lights. The Z28 grill doesn't have openings just a louvered grill without openings.

yo soy el warg

Your right Drew that is the correct grill for a Z28 in 1985. Since the fog lights RPO T96 didn't become optional on the Z28 till 1986 for $60.00. So, unless you ordered a 1986 Z28 with fog lights it would look just like the 1985 red one that was on ebay. In 1986 if you ordered a Z28 with fog lights on it the grill would look just like all the Irocs of that era .