jdawg1276

Okay I have no rear defroster not original equipped with one I know my car ain't rare or worth a ton was just wondering about that option o lack of option I have never seen a car that doesn't have a rear window defroster any numbers on how many where produced like this thanks in advance

jermdm

I had an stripped down 89 RS with a v6 and 5 speed back in 1994 that didnt have a rear defroster. Probably not all that rare to see them without the rear defroster.

jdawg1276

Why would someone want that option?

jdawg1276

Why would someone want that option? and my car is power everything and a automatic just doesn't make much sense not to have add it

jermdm

I would say that our cars came with no rear defroster standard. The rear defroster was most likely an option or included with an options group. People that bought our cars new probably didnt care about having the rear defroster. They probably wanted a camaro or firebird but didnt have the money to buy a nice one so they bought or ordered a low optioned car so they could have a thirdgen. Scott can probably clear this up some more

jdawg1276

that may be but to skip just that one option I can understand if it was a 5 speed with non power locks and windows but to get skip a 150 at most option is mind boggling to me.

ex-x-fire

Maybe it was sold in a warmer state.

jdawg1276

true but even in hot states it would need a defroster to defog windows just weired I still would like numbers on one sold without it

scottmoyer

The rear window defroster was an option. Many people didn't think they needed the rear defroster so they didn't get it. It was fairly inexpensive so the cost was not the issue as much as people just didn't think they needed it.

jdawg1276

thanks Scott just thought is was weird do you happen to know the number of ones that where sold without them?

sofakingdom

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Relatively rare....

FOR A REASON.

Reason being, nobody wanted to buy A NEW CAR without that. WOULD YOU? Nobody else would either.

"Rare" doesn't automatically mean "desirable", or even, "somebody besides you cares".

jdawg1276

I understand that I know I'm not sitting on a gold mind just thought it was weired not having one when every car I have ever seen had one even my old 82 Toyota which was junk lol didn't know if it was common on thirdgens or I just had a weired one that's all.

mr396

In 1988 there was 59,907 C49 rear defoggers sold with 96,725 camaros made.

jdawg1276

thanks mr396 so 36,818. without defrost wonder how many installed it down the road at some point lol guess it is more common than I thought

mr396

ex-x-fire

I've seen 3rd camaros without a/c, so not having rear defroster isn't surprising. Its just the way they sold those early 3rd gens, you could order each option as you choose. To me less is more, I like the plain jane sport coupes the best.

sweetmelissa

My 89 has rear defrost !!!

Jason E

I have seen well-optioned third gens in the past without rear defrost. They are always in southern states. Ordering a car up here without rear defrost would've been suicide for the dealer stuck with it.

Reminds me of a new 2002 Z28 that was still for sale in 2004 on eBay. Car was white with tan leather...had t-tops...chrome wheels...even the $1,300 optional ground effects package. Sounds like a nice car, right??

Whoever ordered it screwed up and forgot to add the preferred equipment group with, oh, power windows, locks, mirrors, drivers seat and cruise Crank windows and leather seats....poor dealer...

navy02ws6

My otherwise well optioned '91 T/A doesn't have a rear defroster either...I've seen plenty of base cars that didn't have it, but few Z28/IROC/TA/GTA's that didn't.

reride

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I would think that though they are around but you dont see to many in my area (Sourthen Nevada) that it is probably a more regional option since most cars are ordered by the dealer, not the consumer.

sloick

i had an 87 iroc with L98 power windows, locks, no defrost.

tomlyons

they often did not have ac radio or any extras built for racing and performance only

mr396

I have a camaro rear window that has the tint and rear window wiper with out a defroster. That has to be rare.

tomlyons

also my 92 rs has a rear disc limited slip non abs diff. and a v6 factory go figure

TTOP350

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Warmer areas of the country don't need rear defrost like the colder northern states do.

okfoz

From 1982-1992 63.5% of all Camaros and Firebirds had the rear defrost option... Therefore 36.5% did not have the rear defrost...

jdawg1276

thanks okfoz the 36.5% probably keep them in a garage and only drove them in hot weather.

KMK454

No rear defrost here...

okfoz

Really when you consider that southern states really do not need a rear defrost, IE from Southern Cal thru Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, AR, LA, FL, GA, etc. is probably 1/3 the population it fits about right... I hardly ever use my rear defrost when I drive my car... It is only on an unusual day that I get caught in the rain... Never had to use it on my convertible, oh wait, my convertible has a plastic window.

Probably the most striking thing I found with those numbers is more Camaros (proportionally) had the rear defrost option than Firebirds. Camaros had a 63.76% and Firebirds had 63.34%... Whereas exactly 89% of Camaros and 93.59% Firebirds had Air Conditioning... Typically more Firebirds had options than Camaros, 4 Wheel disc brakes as another example... Oddities however abound, less Firebirds had CD players (by total and proportion), and less Cassette players... I suppose many people did replace the Factory unit with an aftermarket, but that is not the purpose of this thread.

John

sonjaab

Its funny that my 85 and 87 T/As bought new and loaded up that neither had
rear defrost. My 87 didn't have A/C either (what a mistake!).
Both bought new in NY.

BUT..........My 84 Z-28 is loaded also and HAS the rear defrost and it was bought
new in North Carolina!

NY passed a law a few years back that rear defrost is required in all new cars.

mattquerio

NM

2007xl50

My 92 RS is loaded besides power mirrors, 3.1 Auto, even has the hatch cover, but no rear defrost. My 87 TA has is, loaded besides power mirrors. I had a loaded and I mean loaded 95 Mustang that was sold new in FL and it did not have rear defrost.

okfoz

I wonder if this applies to cars like vans that had no back window. Probably does being in NY.

puma1552

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I've got a very well optioned RS that thankfully has no rear defrost...it's hideous on that huge piece of glass IMO.

Car was originally sold at a tiny dealer in Iowa, Schaull & Ullerich Chevrolet, whichi believe is now Thys Chevrolet IIRC.

3rdgenparts

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I call BS on the regional thing ,My '82 T/A has LU5,WS6,PW,Cruise but no rear defrost and it was sold new in Iowa.


Many of the 82-84 cars I have parted out from AR,OK,KS,TX ALL had rear defrost except for one '82 T/A LU5 I stripped out last fall in Dallas,I sold that non-defrost hatch for $600 to a Knight Rider guy in France cause KITT never had rear defrost either



Dave

kentuckyKITT

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My '82 Trans Am is a high optioned car including rear windshield wiper (which I shaved)...but no rear defrost. My '89 plain ol' Firebird is VERY high optioned including an overhead ttop console, but no rear defrost.

eightTfourTA

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I've picked over dozens of southern thirdgens here in FL over the last 15 years; i've seen just as many with as without. A smart consumer would have bought it, down here all it takes to fog that huge glass is enough humidity and the glass to get cold from running the a/c, or from sitting outside on a mild damp night. I hated not having it on two of my previous cars. Just my .02. My '84 has it, thank goodness.

KITT1983

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My 83 has a rear defroster

QUICKCHICKEN

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my 83 T/A had pw but man locks, tilt, no cruz, 5 spd and heated glass. my 89 FORMULA is pretty loaded but no heated glass. i'v thought about adding it being I have the purple power wire, switch, and getting a glass is no biggie and its pretty much plug and play.