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up for sale this incredible 2 owner 1984 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 L69 5.0 H.O. (High Output Engine) hooked to it's factory Automatic transmission. This is a Very but very rare car and highly collectible model that just hit 31 years of age and became a classic, values of this cars just started skyrocketing and soon will be become impossible to find .

This particular Camaro has only 19,000 original miles , extremely well kept and as you will notice very well optioned: A/C, power windows and locks, tilt wheel, cruise control, t tops, premium sound equipment, Special Lear Siegler seats with Camaro embroidery Deluxe contour custom velour.
Clean car fax no accidents.
The paint in this car shows excellent, you could say that has that mirror finish like cars you see at shows, The interior and trunk compartment exceptionally well preserved. The underside is all original and clean and free of rot.
Everything works as it should including the A/C charged with R12.
The wheels are like new , they were professionally reconditioned and brand new T/A's 235/60-15 Bf Goodrich tires are mounted.
This car is like a time capsule and a blast to drive, lots of muscle and great handling, the engine , transmission and rear end runs effortlessly with no funny noises, this car turn heads and gets compliments everywhere it goes.

Car comes with it's original owners manuals and original sales brochure.
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All I can say is WOW I wish it were mine!
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I wish I had the cash. I would buy it as well. I want an '84 Z28 like this one real bad one day. My dad had a brown 1984 Z28 when I was a kid and that got me started being interested in thirdgens. Ever since then I've wanted to get a Z28 like he had but optioned out just like this car and leave it 100% stock.
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Drove one just like it back in the day.
pretty awesome
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Very cool! Is there an asking price?
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The car is on ebay right now. That's where I found it. The asking price was $19,000 last time I checked. Someone would have to contact that dealer in Florida to see if that's still what they want for it.
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Nice car, too bad it's an auto.

Right motor, right interior, good miles, good colors, wrong trans.
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Nice car, too bad it's an auto.

Right motor, right interior, good miles, good colors, wrong trans.

Yup, except for the trans, it's the perfect early 3rd gen.
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I wish I had the cash. I would buy it as well. I want an '84 Z28 like this one real bad one day. My dad had a brown 1984 Z28 when I was a kid and that got me started being interested in thirdgens. Ever since then I've wanted to get a Z28 like he had but optioned out just like this car and leave it 100% stock.
You mean you wouldn't do a LSX swap with a 6 speed???? Sheeesh! JK

It is a nice car. I wanted it's twin a while back.


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Lol nope. I've got my modded IROC for a little fun. I'd get another car for an LSX swap. I like these early thirdgens stock. Yeah I remember the add for that car when it was for sale. I'd have a hard time letting a car like this go.


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You mean you wouldn't do a LSX swap with a 6 speed???? Sheeesh! JK

It is a nice car. I wanted it's twin a while back.


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Nice car, too bad it's an auto.

Right motor, right interior, good miles, good colors, wrong trans.

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Nice car, too bad it's an auto.

Right motor, right interior, good miles, good colors, wrong trans.

I'll 4th this, my thoughts exactly.
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Yeah, I love that car. I could do without the TTops. Auto would be fine with me.
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The automatic trans is a disaster, especially behind an L69. They should have never offered the L69 with an automatic in these cars IMO. Their calibration is so poor and they operate so sloppy, it ruins the car. What a shame...
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"The Paint In This Car Shows Excellent,You Could Say That Has That Mirror Finish Like Cars You See At Shows"

They Could Have Taken Care Of That Door Rust Before They Put It Up For Sale.

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The automatic trans is a disaster, especially behind an L69. They should have never offered the L69 with an automatic in these cars IMO. Their calibration is so poor and they operate so sloppy, it ruins the car. What a shame...
I did not know that. I've only spent time with manuals. Does this apply to TPI cars, too, in your opinion? No wrong answer. Just curious. I'd have probably purchased an auto this last time if fate would have presented one.
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"The Paint In This Car Shows Excellent,You Could Say That Has That Mirror Finish Like Cars You See At Shows"

They Could Have Taken Care Of That Door Rust Before They Put It Up For Sale.


I dont think that is rust but glue...i could be wrong...
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I dont think that is rust but glue...i could be wrong...

I agree, this is probably remnant glue from a door molding that's been removed. If it was rust, the black speed nut on the bottom corner of the door would be long gone.
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I did not know that. I've only spent time with manuals. Does this apply to TPI cars, too, in your opinion? No wrong answer. Just curious. I'd have probably purchased an auto this last time if fate would have presented one.
My stance is that an automatic transmission doesnt belong in any thirdgen regardless of engine.

That being said, if all you want is a lazy cruiser, or if you're a "stab and steer" drag racer then the automatics are fine. But if you want something fun to drive and you prefer a more engaging driving experience, a manual trans is the only way to go.

My biggest beef with the 700R4 in the vast majority of these cars is that the calibration is just sloppy. It never really feels like it's in the right gear, they usually aren't crisp and responsive to kick down when you roll in the throttle. I'm also a road race guy, so I like to heel-toe down shift, come into corners hot and come off hard. Forget all of that with an automatic....

In the interest of full disclosure, I am a hardcore stick shift guy. Look what I did to my Tahoe....
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My stance is that an automatic transmission doesnt belong in any thirdgen regardless of engine.

That being said, if all you want is a lazy cruiser, or if you're a "stab and steer" drag racer then the automatics are fine. But if you want something fun to drive and you prefer a more engaging driving experience, a manual trans is the only way to go.

My biggest beef with the 700R4 in the vast majority of these cars is that the calibration is just sloppy. It never really feels like it's in the right gear, they usually aren't crisp and responsive to kick down when you roll in the throttle. I'm also a road race guy, so I like to heel-toe down shift, come into corners hot and come off hard. Forget all of that with an automatic....



Yes! Yes! Yes!


Automatic has it's place. Great for drag racing. Also good for grudge driving, when you really don't want to be out there but you have to get your a$$ somewhere. Automatic transmission allows for dining while being stuck in traffic.


But even beyond road racing, any type of pleasure cruise requires a manual transmission. That's just the way it is, it's not really a matter of opinion or taste.


The worst excuse ever for having a toy car with an automatic is that "my wife might drive it". Baloney. She will never drive it. But if she truly wants to drive your toy, she better learn how to drive a stick.

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Yes! Yes! Yes!


Automatic has it's place. Great for drag racing. Also good for grudge driving, when you really don't want to be out there but you have to get your a$$ somewhere. Automatic transmission allows for dining while being stuck in traffic.


But even beyond road racing, any type of pleasure cruise requires a manual transmission. That's just the way it is, it's not really a matter of opinion or taste.


The worst excuse ever for having a toy car with an automatic is that "my wife might drive it". Baloney. She will never drive it. But if she truly wants to drive your toy, she better learn how to drive a stick.
I feel a flame war coming on.. I have seen the auto vs manual arguments get ugly. I am a manual guy obviously but I know that the stock 5.7 guys love their autos... most at least. my son will have to pull the stick from my cold dead hands lol

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the stock 5.7 guys love their autos... most at least.
I think most of the 350 guys see it as a necissisary evil to get the engine they want, and to get a top optioned car that will retain value the most. Not everyone has the resources to mold these cars into anything they want, so those that aren't planning to perform major surgery get the big engine and deal with the automatic... Or they are into straight line performance and the auto is fine for them.

Sorry for the off topic rant about automatics. Back to observing the beautiful '84Z pictured above.
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It is a nice car. I wanted it's twin a while back.


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Yes Bob! My hubby wanted that one too! Reminded him of his 82 Z28 he bought brand new. Came close but couldnt work out an agreement. He called us back at a later time, but it was too late. We got the 4th gen.
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The only 700R4 I am happy with is the one I had rebuilt in my yellow '85 IROC-Z. Premium components, super high quality up and downshifts. As far as an auto goes, it great. But it's no replacement for a stick.
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No question sticks can be fun, however my knee is grateful for the auto.
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Today as I am driving to work with that cup of coffee between my legs I am lovin the auto...but a stick and a cup holder would be nice!
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If you have any interest in an auto trans, at the absolute top end you should be piloting a mini van. But best bet would be looking into monthly pass for public transport. That would put all driving decisions at ease.
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Wow sounds like a war got started on here between auto and manual trans preference! That was not my intention by making this post. If you have one transmission preference over another that's cool. These cars came with both transmissions and it's easy to swap one for the other - or get an aftermarket trans (auto or stick) that is substantially stronger than the factory ever put in these cars. No reason to blow snot on each other - were all on the same team here in terms of enjoying thirdgens.

I think this car is cool because it looks like its a mostly original survivor that's in excellent condition. You can swap on a set of Eagle GT's and transport yourself back to the Chevrolet dealer showroom of your choice in 1984. Transmission choice aside there are many thirdgen fans (me included) that would love to have a car like this in their garage.

Lets keep some perspective in mind - GM made over 100,000 Z28's in 1984. How many of them are around now in this kind of condition today with the options and drivetrain that this car has - not many. Sad truth is that with many of the early thirdgens they are either in excellent shape, in the toilet bowl, or have been scrapped. I'm glad this car survived the past 31 years in this shape. There are a lot of people that wish that they could say they survived the past 30 plus years in the same kind of shape that this car is in.
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Yes. I love the car, too. And very impressive with nearly all options. Which other options were available?

console clock
stowage well locking cover
storage area trim carpet (can't recall the name at the moment)
rear disks
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rear wiper/washer
power antenna
graphic equalizer
power seat

What else?

Cannot see if it has interval wipers.

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Wow sounds like a war got started on here between auto and manual trans preference! That was not my intention by making this post. If you have one transmission preference over another that's cool. These cars came with both transmissions and it's easy to swap one for the other - or get an aftermarket trans (auto or stick) that is substantially stronger than the factory ever put in these cars. No reason to blow snot on each other - were all on the same team here in terms of enjoying thirdgens.

I think this car is cool because it looks like its a mostly original survivor that's in excellent condition. You can swap on a set of Eagle GT's and transport yourself back to the Chevrolet dealer showroom of your choice in 1984. Transmission choice aside there are many thirdgen fans (me included) that would love to have a car like this in their garage.

Lets keep some perspective in mind - GM made over 100,000 Z28's in 1984. How many of them are around now in this kind of condition today with the options and drivetrain that this car has - not many. Sad truth is that with many of the early thirdgens they are either in excellent shape, in the toilet bowl, or have been scrapped. I'm glad this car survived the past 31 years in this shape. There are a lot of people that wish that they could say they survived the past 30 plus years in the same kind of shape that this car is in.

No. Don't get confused, there's no controversy here. Either your into cars (manual transmission) or your not. I don't see a grey area.
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I like manuals. I've even drivin a performance 3 on the tree hot rod. My point is enjoy them while you can. My left knee is good, but some days its questionable. For no reason, no go. The next day its fine. I stopped driving sticks when my knee started making more noise then the gear change.
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I like manuals. I've even drivin a performance 3 on the tree hot rod. My point is enjoy them while you can. My left knee is good, but some days its questionable. For no reason, no go. The next day its fine. I stopped driving sticks when my knee started making more noise then the gear change.


Can't argue with that! An automatic trans is an excellent remedy for a bummed left knee.
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No. Don't get confused, there's no controversy here. Either your into cars (manual transmission) or your not. I don't see a grey area.
I like both types of transmissions. As others have said both have their benefits. Just comes down to a personal preference. Some people like autos only, some people like manuals only and others like both.

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Lol yeah. Everybody is just passionate about these cars and what they prefer. Lol no big deal, it's just easy to see that in this thread.
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Manual or automatic I still hit my favorite corner rated at 35mph at 60 and punch it through the corner coming out at 85-90mph. Fun is fun auto or manual.
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Beautiful car, but it needs a hard top and a manual. Thanks for posting!
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Beautiful car, but it needs a hard top and a manual. Thanks for posting!
Isn't it amazing that the hardtop cars are more desirable to a certain enthusiast segment than the t-top cars?
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Isn't it amazing that the hardtop cars are more desirable to a certain enthusiast segment than the t-top cars?
It is funny! Now that blue 85 TA I sold Bob would still be sitting here if it had t-tops, but I have no problem driving the hardtop 91 1LE that I've got - of course that's a stick, so that helps too.
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I/my wife LOVES that blue 85 TA that you sold Bob!
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If I want to drive sticks, I'll hop in the 2000 RamAir T-Tops or the Firehawk T-Top. 4th gens though. I'm lucky, I have the best of both. HardTop,Auto, T-Tops, sticks
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If I want to drive sticks, I'll hop in the 2000 RamAir T-Tops or the Firehawk T-Top. 4th gens though. I'm lucky, I have the best of both. HardTop,Auto, T-Tops, sticks
Wow! Im gonna keep hinting you need to leave me in your will Bob. When did you get the Firehawk? Id love to see your collection.
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"The Paint In This Car Shows Excellent,You Could Say That Has That Mirror Finish Like Cars You See At Shows"

They Could Have Taken Care Of That Door Rust Before They Put It Up For Sale.

holy crap that's funny
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Isn't it amazing that the hardtop cars are more desirable to a certain enthusiast segment than the t-top cars?
In a world of compromise, some don't. For most classics, the manual trans with the best motor, suspension, and brakes brings the most money and attention. What's weird about the thirdgen is the best engine (L98) wasn't available with a manual, so there will always be a small debate over how those extra few tenths of a second at the dragstrip makes the auto trans car the most desirable (on a road course, my money is on a well driven T5 - remember that the 700R4 is not like the modern F1 Automatic Transmissions that outperform modern manuals).

As for the hardtop, it's all about structural rigidity on a car that excelled at handling...
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What do you guys think the asking price should be for this car? It's still up for sale on the dealers website.


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