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Old 05-27-2018, 01:25 PM   #251  
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Welp, I guess if gluing your housing back together was a viable repair, everyone would do it. I just ordered the new motor and housing from TDS.
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Feel stupid I didn't properly troubleshoot this when we were there Charlie. With the mileage on the car, I was just convinced that it would be wiring related, dirty switch contacts etc, then I couldn't even figure that out.

Now you know why I just weld them on my daily drivers. Never had a welded one fail yet!
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No worries, Jeremy! The reversing switch came loose from the motor because of the broken housing. It seems like such a stupid way for the mechanism to fail.
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That crazy a$$ pull down contraption is now fixed!
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I need some input. I installed the pulldown motor and housing and everything worked fine. A few days later I go to drive the car and the 2 year old battery is dead. Not dead like it needs a charge, but so dead it wouldn't take a charge.

So last night I get a new battery and everything is fine. Out of curiosity tonight, I checked the NEW battery's charge and it was down to only 20%. I check the pulldown motor and it's not working. I feel the motor itself and it feels hot. I unplug the power to the reverse switch for a few minutes and the motor cooled down. Plugged it back in again and it works. Any ideas?
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I’m so happy mine works..

In my 87 I had to open up the motor and wind it down to the point where I could slam the hatch and it would catch and shut all the way.. Sometimes the motor would start working again and then die again and I’d have to take it apart again..

I think in the final years of the car the motor fixed itself and was consistently working..

Those motors be mysterious..
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Those motors be mysterious..


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And now everything is working normally and the motor is cool as a cucumber.
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And now everything is working normally and the motor is cool as a cucumber.
Ha ha.. classic GM fixing itself..
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You guys are NOT making me feel better about my need to do this repair to my T/A this summer.
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You guys are NOT making me feel better about my need to do this repair to my T/A this summer.
Don't worry Dave, it's not bad. It's just the whole contraption looks like it came from an alien planet until you get your bearings on it.
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Yes, I'm hopeful it will make more sense once i get in there. I've bookmarked several threads here on the subject.
I don't want to be chided by Drew for not searching.



And I have a very hard time figuring out what's being discussed.



One picture of the whole mechanism = "See that little black plastic reverse switch" in a photo full of little black parts....

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Yes, I'm hopeful it will make more sense once i get in there. I've bookmarked several threads here on the subject.
I don't want to be chided by Drew for not searching.



And I have a very hard time figuring out what's being discussed.



One picture of the whole mechanism = "See that little black plastic reverse switch" in a photo full of little black parts....

There are some youtube videos which might help get you orientated.
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I think this car is mad at me. In the past week I've replaced the pulldown motor/housing, replaced a fried 2 year old battery and now the hatch release button doesn't work, which on a convertible is the tonneau release button.

I've checked the ACC fuses and even replaced them because in the past I've been burned by blown fuses which looked good. The switch is connected and you can hear it actuating when you press it.

What do I check next?
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Check the actuators. They may need to be cleaned or lubricated. Also check all of the cables.
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I think this car is mad at me. In the past week I've replaced the pulldown motor/housing, replaced a fried 2 year old battery and now the hatch release button doesn't work, which on a convertible is the tonneau release button.

I've checked the ACC fuses and even replaced them because in the past I've been burned by blown fuses which looked good. The switch is connected and you can hear it actuating when you press it.

What do I check next?
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Check the actuators. They may need to be cleaned or lubricated. Also check all of the cables.

Where are the actuators?
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They are located behind the interior rear quarter panel trim pieces.

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Thereњll be a black cable looking thing going into one end and a power connector going into the other end. The actuator itself is a silver like cylinder shaped part.

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If the brake light on the dash lights up when you push the tonneau release button, check in the trunk on the trunk mechanism. There is a switch that comes unplugged.
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Push down on the tonneau while you hit the button. Always have to do that on my RS.
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Push down on the tonneau while you hit the button. Always have to do that on my RS.

I know what you're talking about, but it's not that. I can hear the switch click, at the switch, but nothing at the tonneau.

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If the brake light on the dash lights up when you push the tonneau release button, check in the trunk on the trunk mechanism. There is a switch that comes unplugged.
Thanks, I'll check that out later.
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Drew, The reason why you have to push down might be because the cable is out of adjustment. I had to bend the one of the ends for the cable, once I did this it works perfectly. Granted the solenoids they used barely get the job done.

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Push down on the tonneau while you hit the button. Always have to do that on my RS.
I have to do the same thing to get mine to work.
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I had to do this to mine until I made my little adjustment. Like I said there was about 1/16" slop and I had to adjust the end... Interestingly it was only the left side that would stick. Once I did that I have not had any problems with it releasing.
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To be honest, it never bothered me enough to look into it. LOL Just assumed it's because the tension on the cover keeps the solenoid from popping completely. After using the backup pull cables a few times, pushing down just a little while hitting the button was a welcome workaround.
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It didn't bother me either, but when I was troubleshooting my release button problem I had the side panels apart and I noticed that the solenoid had some slop on the left side, It was not much, almost not noticeable. In my case the pull of the solenoid did not always release either. So I tried manually pulling in the solenoid, and at that point I realized the travel was not quite enough, so I adjusted it so that it would be and now it works better. NOt perfect but stronger solenoids would be a bonus.
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It seems this car will soon find a new home. People have been wanting to buy this car from me ever since I got it. Last summer a friend of mine wanted to buy it. I asked him, what would you do with it? Take it to cruise nights? He said, oh no. It'd be my daily driver and I'd let my wife drive it too. Ummm, sorry bud, not for sale.


Anyhoo, I posted some pictures of it on one of the FB pages a few weeks ago. Someone saw it who is the best friend of someone who had the EXACT car back in the day. It was stolen after a year. He got in contact with me and said he's been looking for this exact car all of these years. So we made a deal. Waiting for the funds to clear and then I'll send the title and wait for the shipper. It's going to the east coast. Kind of bittersweet for me actually. I hate to let it go but it sounds like it's going to make someone very happy.

And now I can bring the yellow '85 back home and deal with it's bull$h!t.

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yh 4 camaros is too many im just restoring my first car an 87 camaro and i wish i had more money cause rn im at a a standstill and my car needs alot of work
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Four is not too many - if you're retired! But if you're not retired, you can only work on one by neglecting the others. Just a general truth.
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Good cull. You did your part, send er down the road and never look back. Wish I could cut my convertible loose.
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dude 4 iroc is too many even if you rich lol id say 3 is the most you should have
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dude 4 iroc is too many even if you rich lol id say 3 is the most you should have

You're probably right. 3 IROCs and a Trans Am then! You guys know I can't stop looking! Right?
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Good cull. You did your part, send er down the road and never look back. Wish I could cut my convertible loose.
This car would have been perfect if I had a winter residence in say, south Florida, and I shipped it down there to use for the purpose of my wintering pleasure. Of course, I don't have a winter residence other than my house.

So, my garage is full. I was rotating an IROC through my parent's garage. I have somehow acquired my father-in-law's 1977 Lincoln Continental and have been keeping it in his garage. I just feel I've got cars all over the place. Mentally/emotionally it convinces me that I can never get another old car, because I literally have no place to put it.

Once the '87 goes, I still don't have room, but at least I can look at cars and have the glimmer of possibility that I could finagle some storage solution if I had to. Weird, I know.
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you need a 4 post lift Charlie. Then you can put the black car on the lift and park something under it.

I'm maintaining 5 running/driving thirdgens right now. There is a to-do list on each car as there always is, but I'd drive any of them cross country right now.
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you need a 4 post lift Charlie. Then you can put the black car on the lift and park something under it.

I'm maintaining 5 running/driving thirdgens right now. There is a to-do list on each car as there always is, but I'd drive any of them cross country right now.
Yes, I do need a lift! Something stops me though. Maybe I'm afraid of complicating the way I organize my garage parking, who knows. But I should get a lift, it makes the most sense.

And.....I need to put up a white board in my garage, with each individual car's "to do" list.
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you need a 4 post lift Charlie. Then you can put the black car on the lift and park something under it.

I'm maintaining 5 running/driving thirdgens right now. There is a to-do list on each car as there always is, but I'd drive any of them cross country right now.
Jeremy, what's the 5th one?

The IROC, GTA, blue '85, gray '88,....
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My dad's 91 RS with a healthy carb'd 350,T5,PBR rear discs and 3.42 gears.

MSD Pro-Billet distributor and QuickFuel carb needed dialed in, then he got busy and I still have the car a year later LOL.
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All shined up for it's new owner...

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All shined up for it's new owner...

Man I wish I was that guy...
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Indeed. That is one sharp-looking car!
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Sorry to see you get rid of it, but you have others to keep you going. Sweet Ride!
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your car is like mine except mine is an 87 and is in bad shape lol
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Sorry to see you get rid of it, but you have others to keep you going. Sweet Ride!

Yeah, me too. But time to move on to the needs of the others.

I'm pretty sure this will be one I'll look back on and regret selling, because of it's low miles and originality. I sold the '83 and '92 without even a second thought, this one kind of bummed me out when it went on the trailer.

Welp, I got a fair price for it, and that's that.
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