chazman

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https://www.copart.com/lot/39213587

jkris53406

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Ouch, that is too bad. The body looks to be in great shape, but that is a huge question mark on the rest. Especially the wiring. I would say parts car

navy02ws6

Worth saving IMO just because of what it is, but you'd have to gut the whole interior, scrub and lysol the crap out of everything, possibly rebuild the drivetrain, and replace every harness on the car.

So, from a monetary standpoint, probably not, depending on where the waterline was (looks like it was at least up to the HVAC controls if not higher), and if the drivetrain's hydrolocked (which it probably is).

chazman

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As long as no one tried starting it, maybe not hydrolocked.

82tarecaro

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Texas salvage. Probably from Harvey. It might be salt water. Also not a low miles car. Parts only IMO

MY87LT

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I vote save before it gets worse. And I've seen cars in worse condition being brought back from the dead.

Tibo

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People sell roller convertibles for not much less than that. It's a complete car with only water damage, to me it's a prime candidate for an LS swap or a drivetrain swap from an existing SBC vehicle. If I were in the market for one, I would definitely take it.

Drew

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I really hate to say it, but that one is probably toast. The upside is that at least it's a convertible, so maybe the smell wouldn't be so bad driving with the top down. I wouldn't trust the drivetrain, the interior will need to be seriously de-funked, and all the electrical assemblies will be questionable. The wiring isn't really that scary, it's more things like the every electronic part with a motor, resistor, switches, and so on. Think about replacing all the switches, power window motors, lock solenoids, etc. There's no economy in fixing this car. It'll never be right. It'd take so much work to make it dependable... It's just sad.

DynoDave43

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It might be a good project for someone, but I find bringing these cars back to be challenging enough without dealing with one that's been half submerged. Personally, I would not touch it.

rarebmx

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Worth saving. Parts alone are worth current bid +. I'd rather have this & destroy a ttop or coupe to save it. Not many blue 87 Convertibles out there

82tarecaro

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You would be restoring it at a loss for what it's value will be when done. It also has a branded title.

Tibo

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So many states with so many different laws when it comes to Salvage titles. Arizona has a salvage title but once it's restored and checks out on a basic safety check you get a restored title. I thought illinois was a similar circumstance you just had to have a "licensed mechanic" do the work.

This car is a good find for someone with a rusted or wrecked thirdgen or someone who want's to replace the drivetrain. Junkyards will sell the entire interior/exterior wire harness for $50. Some of them will give it away free if you buy the dash.

If you are only looking at this car for flipping purposes, it's not a good candidate.

scottmoyer

One thing that all of you have missed is that it's a VIN 2 car, not a VIN 3. This is an aftermarket convertible. I've seen some that believe the aftermarket ASC conversions will be similar priced as a factory defined vert, but as of now, we don't know that for a fact. Plus, we don't know how many aftermarket conversions were made.

It could be worth it, but with a branded title, and a VIN 2, I'd think it probably won't be very valuable.

Drew

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I noticed, but I'm not sure it really matters... Or it doesn't matter to me. It'd be nice if it were a 3 build with the map pouch, but I still hate to see the car in that condition. I suppose a person could use the parts to convert a T-top car that hasn't been flooded, but that'd still be more work than it'd ever be worth. Value wise and in a lot of practical ways, this car will never be worth what it was before the flooding.

F-body-fan

Thats a cool car. Guessing its going to sell for a lot more than 2K, but I'd buy that just to see what it is if it stayed that cheap.

Whats the added emblem under the "Z28" on the dash?

Degweiser

20th anniversary

scottmoyer

The added emblem on the VIN 2 cars is a build number ASC would put on the car to designate it's rarity. I don't think anyone has actually determined what number ASC started/finished at, so the number has no value yet.

F-body-fan

so 2 cars had a emblem & 3 cars had the storage pocket?

Learned something new today & its not even 8:00am

scottmoyer

That's correct. The VIN 3 cars had the 20th Anniversary designation and received the map pocket. That is the easiest way to determine if the car is a factory convertible or an aftermarket option. There should not be any aftermarket conversions after 1987 from ASC.

PurelyPMD

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Neat thing about the 2 cars is you could get a TPI/Auto like this one instead of the throttle body one.

rarebmx

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Plus G92 & disc brakes (if optioned).
Actually I think the map pocket is cool but sure would trade it for better options.

chazman

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The '87 VIN 3 convertibles were available with either an LG4 auto or an LB9 5 speed, (with or without G92 for the 5 speed) ONLY.

This one is a VIN 2, (left the factory as a hardtop) and has an LB9 auto. Judging by the speedo, I'd bet it has the G92 with a 3.23 gear, available on '87s and '88s.

RedLeader289

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If it wasn't started, and you have the time, I think it's worth it. It's not like the electronics on these cars are super difficult. A deep cleaning would do some wonders.

*edit* when I say "worth it" I mean that it's worth not letting it rot away, it will probably never bring the value of what a restorer would have to put into it.

F-body-fan

So were most of the conversion parts the same between the 2 & 3 convertibles? Aside from the obvious Vin & stickers how much is different? Rear Spoiler & brake light look a bit odd.

okfoz

I agree with Scott, to a point. When you look at a coach builder or an aftermarket conversion it usually does not do the value any good when you compare it to a "factory" model. What scares most people off, or at least me, is the problem finding replacement parts & such. When you have something like a Matrix3, Autoform, Hi-line, etc finding replacement parts can be a problem. However when you got an ASC, the parts are identical to the factory model, so finding those parts even aftermarket is easier.

The biggest difference between a "Factory" ASC convertible and the Dealer ordered ASC convertible are both cosmetic.
1) The Factory ASC convertible got Black sun visors, (Dealer Conversion cars got interior color sunvisors)
2) Factory ASC did not get headrest seat belt loops, (dealer conversion cars got the loops)
3) "special Edition emblem" on the conversions, vs "20th Anniversary" pocket from the Firebird in 87 only.

Note: Firebird ASC Convertibles for 88 & 89 I do not believe they got the "Special Edition Emblems" It seems the emblem was used through 1987 however, and whether or not they were in sequence with the Camaros or not I am not sure. It is possible they got a different sequence, but I have not seen the same number on both Firebirds and Camaros.

This particular this car could be one of a few things...
1) completely ok, just needs a good cleaning.
2) the Interior could be stinky, therefore a car with a good interior might bee required
3) The engine might be hydro-locked as mentioned before, and being salt water, who knows what you will find. IT appears that it may have been completely underwater.

To me, It appears to be good as a shell, that is about it, look at it like a car without an engine, trans or interior. You might get lucky, everything can be replaced to some degree. But it appears there was water in the gages.

John

88IROCvertZ

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So sad..

As a professional detailer I think you could get the interior pretty good again if you take it all apart and extract debris from everywhere..

rent an ozone generator to kill the odor, bacteria, and mold.

Salt water would be better for germs, but not so good for bare metal..

It could be saved by the right person and could be worth "something", but like others said you'd be constantly finding new problems.. and always with the dilemma of keeping the car or selling for a loss..

I've never seen a blue 87 vert for sale and definitely not a special edition..

That rear window is definitely different looking..

assuming no one tried to start it there may be a bit of hope there for the right person..

It has some things going for it..

JT

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Guess this image with WL and line stands for waterline to indicate how far deep. If that can be trusted. Well, it was pretty well submerged if it was up to atleast the door handle.

mrmike3rdGen

Hello. I know it's been a while but I just came across this posting. So what ever happen to it?! Thanks, Mike

chazman

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Hopefully someone saved it. More than likely it’s been scrapped, though.

Drew

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It'll be at Barret-Jackson as soon as they're done buffing off the clay bar residue.

ironwill

Flood cars?


No...................just...no.

88IROCvertZ

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It can be done.. Just heard a podcast where a guy restored a flooded Tesla.. Basically got a $120k car for $30k.. Took the whole thing apart, Dried everything out, restored and sealed everything, bought a $15k Tesla that was in a collision for parts because Tesla won’t sell you parts to fix a “totaled” car.. they know where all of them are

He had to find the old owner of the wrecked one to get the key because they won’t sell you a new key to a totaled car either.. He found out from talking to the guy he also owned his blue Z06 Corvette that he had sold years ago.. This is across the country too.. Crazy coincidence..

So he got a practically brand new $120k Tesla that you had to get on a waiting list to buy for under $60k

The only feature that doesn’t work is the one where the car will come to you in a parking lot with the Tesla app..

The car sounds insane.. Instant torque. 0-60 in 1.9 seconds or something.. Dyno couldn’t even read the power and the car almost hopped off the dyno..

So, for the ThirdGen relevancy.. You “could” probably save that IROC and go through less than that guy did..

kentuckyKITT

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Shame. Hopefully someone saved it and did it right. Back in about 88, my father was backing a boat into the Ohio River with his 72 International 1310 when the brake line burst and the truck went all the way into the water and was submerged for about 2 hours. He brought it back home and spent the next 3 months and completely disassembled it down to every nut and bolt and dried and cleaned everything. Put it back together and started it up and still has it today.

"Tesla won’t sell you parts to fix a “totaled” car.. they know where all of them are"

Reason #125,689 of why I will never own a Tesla.