History / Originality Got a question about 1982-1992 Camaro or Firebird history? Have a question about original parts, options, RPO codes, when something was available, or how to document your car? Those questions, answers, and much more!

89 T/A production numbers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-06-2018, 06:21 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
1brd2brd3brd4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Evington,Va
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 93 Formula,88 T/A,01 WS6
Engine: 93 LT1,88TPI305,01 LS1
Transmission: 93 700R4,88 700R4,01 T56
Axle/Gears: 93 3:73's,88 3:42,01 3:40
89 T/A production numbers


I have an 89 gun metal 350 T/A. I was wondering a couple things, one being if anyone knows the production numbers broken down options. And two, what was the difference in the HP ratings between 88 and 89. I have heard a few things, 1:they had a different cam, or 2: it was because of the dual cats. Can anyone clear this up for me? Thanks.

Last edited by 1brd2brd3brd4; 01-06-2018 at 06:23 PM. Reason: To add a picture
Old 01-06-2018, 06:40 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
ray jr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,672
Likes: 0
Received 63 Likes on 52 Posts
Re: 89 T/A production numbers

the 88 and 89 350 had the same 230 horsepower .. in 89 you could get the dual cat n10 option which gave you 240 horsepower .. looks like they made around 5700 1989 ta's ..
Old 01-07-2018, 08:38 AM
  #3  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Big&BadGTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: *member since 1999, I think - just can't remember my old name, and the big site crash...*
Posts: 1,199
Received 151 Likes on 105 Posts
Car: 89 GTA ASC Conv., Prev: 89 GTA 6.3L
Engine: 5.7L L98 TPI
Transmission: 700r4 Automatic
Axle/Gears: 3.27:1 w/ JG1 Options:B2L, N10, U1A
Re: 89 T/A production numbers

On Firebird/TA, 1988 and 1989 single cat cars were rated at 225 hp. Dual cat cars added 10 hp, as mid-year 1989 intro. This is different than Camaro numbers above. Cam was same in 88/88, and most aggressive of the 5.7L TPI cars. I hope this helps.
Old 01-08-2018, 05:41 PM
  #4  
Member
Thread Starter
 
1brd2brd3brd4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Evington,Va
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 93 Formula,88 T/A,01 WS6
Engine: 93 LT1,88TPI305,01 LS1
Transmission: 93 700R4,88 700R4,01 T56
Axle/Gears: 93 3:73's,88 3:42,01 3:40
Re: 89 T/A production numbers

Originally Posted by Big&BadGTA
On Firebird/TA, 1988 and 1989 single cat cars were rated at 225 hp. Dual cat cars added 10 hp, as mid-year 1989 intro. This is different than Camaro numbers above. Cam was same in 88/88, and most aggressive of the 5.7L TPI cars. I hope this helps.

I reckon it does, I bought this car with a knock, I pulled a 350 from an 88 IROC and just wanted to make sure the engines were the same. I figured the exhaust was the difference, but never could confirm it. I kind of played with the idea of putting an LT1 cam in it since I have a couple. But I don't know if it would make much difference.
Old 01-08-2018, 05:54 PM
  #5  
Member
Thread Starter
 
1brd2brd3brd4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Evington,Va
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 93 Formula,88 T/A,01 WS6
Engine: 93 LT1,88TPI305,01 LS1
Transmission: 93 700R4,88 700R4,01 T56
Axle/Gears: 93 3:73's,88 3:42,01 3:40
Re: 89 T/A production numbers

Originally Posted by ray jr
the 88 and 89 350 had the same 230 horsepower .. in 89 you could get the dual cat n10 option which gave you 240 horsepower .. looks like they made around 5700 1989 ta's ..
​​​​​​
i appreciate the reply, I already know the Hp/tq ratings. I wanted to make sure the 88 engine I got for my 89 was the same. As far as production numbers, I was looking for more of a break down, like by options or color. I know there were only around 644 gun metal GTA's in 89, Im just curious about how many gun metal Trans Ams were built, and how many 350 Trans Ams vs 305 Trans Ams. No, I don't think my car is worth a million dollars because "rare", I'm just curious. That information may not even be available, idk.
Old 01-08-2018, 05:56 PM
  #6  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Big&BadGTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: *member since 1999, I think - just can't remember my old name, and the big site crash...*
Posts: 1,199
Received 151 Likes on 105 Posts
Car: 89 GTA ASC Conv., Prev: 89 GTA 6.3L
Engine: 5.7L L98 TPI
Transmission: 700r4 Automatic
Axle/Gears: 3.27:1 w/ JG1 Options:B2L, N10, U1A
Re: 89 T/A production numbers

88 had cold start injector, so harness might have slight variance.
Old 01-09-2018, 01:26 PM
  #7  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (58)
 
Drew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Salina, KS
Posts: 20,309
Received 1,052 Likes on 748 Posts
Re: 89 T/A production numbers

The only production numbers that were actually tracked and can be meaningfully calculated, are LARGE model stats. Such as how many 89 Trans Ams were built, or how many 89 Firebirds of all varieties had the 350. Generally speaking the more specific you try to get the less likely the combination was tracked. So when you get down to how many 1989 Firebirds were both Trans Ams, and a 350, you're probably out of luck. Factor in how many were T/As with 350s, and in Gunmetal, you're really far into the mist.

The exception is the invoices that GM has in the computer system. As a general rule, only some Canadian cars and 91-92 were ever in the system. Even then GM didn't keep track of combinations. The only reason those numbers are out there at all, is because someone with access to the GM database, found a way to catalog the information and search it by RPO codes and generate a quantity of XXX RPO in the data. The trouble there is that not every car built is in the database. Also there have been confirmed errors in the calculations. It's still just an educated guess based on an incomplete database and program that isn't necessarily infallible. So when someone claims X car is 1 of 3, there's no positive way to verify the claim is fact.
Old 01-09-2018, 01:32 PM
  #8  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (58)
 
Drew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Salina, KS
Posts: 20,309
Received 1,052 Likes on 748 Posts
Re: 89 T/A production numbers

Originally Posted by 1brd2brd3brd4
​​​​​​
I wanted to make sure the 88 engine I got for my 89 was the same.
30 years after the fact, 5 or 10hp rated on a mass produced engine, really isn't going to matter. Any potential difference isn't going to matter enough to worry about.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mike 305 25th RS
Auto Detailing and Appearance
1
05-10-2001 01:34 PM
ZDADDY92
History / Originality
5
11-06-2000 02:33 PM
Steves91Formula
History / Originality
4
10-25-2000 04:55 PM
Mike 25th
History / Originality
8
10-01-2000 10:55 PM



Quick Reply: 89 T/A production numbers



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:16 AM.