formula1LE

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All orders are sent out and up to date! I'll be building a few more this weekend if anybody is interested-drop me a line!

formula1LE

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TTT

blacksunshine'91

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I'll probably be in the market for another kit here soon. I'm so used to the kit I have in my GTA that when I drive my convertible I forget that they aren't auto up/down. Only one way to solve that issue.

formula1LE

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Lol...it's definitely true that the auto down/up isn't something you can really appreciate until suddenly you don't have it!

MoJoe

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@formula1LE - I was planning on wiring relays and direct-to-battery power (w/ breaker) to speed up the windows (87 Camaro), but I think I'll jump on the express up/down feature instead.
Questions/comments:
1) Are the relays for switching purposes?... reversing the stock switches from + trigger to - trigger? If I switch the "power lead" to the switches to be a ground instead of +12V, would that eliminate the need for the relays?
2) Or are the relays used to provide direct power to the window motors?
3) I am cleaning up a hacked harness, and doing some other mods, so I would be mounting the modules and relays under the dash, probably near the ECM for space, and hard wiring instead of plugging in to the harness in the console.

Reply, e-mail and/or message me and we can discuss the details.

Joe

formula1LE

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The relays are wired in such a way to provide more voltage to window motors and to allow the stock switches to act as ground triggers. This way, adding express modules is easier.

Bill Welch

Still available ?

formula1LE

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Yes they are....I'm currently going through a LOT of solid state modules that I use in these kits for the 1977-up truck guys as well. If you need a kit, let me know if you want relay, auto down or auto down/up harnesses.

FASTAZZTA

I just have to say that this kit is awesome. A little tricky to run the modules wiring, but found a cool spot to put them out of the way, behind the trim piece with the " Performance Suspension" on it. Windows up or down in 4 sec flat. Thanks for this kit.

formula1LE

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Awesome!!! Glad to hear it worked out for you!!

formula1LE

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Anybody have any before/after videos to post up?

BOTTLEDZ28

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hahahaha, Mine is still sitting in the box. I think its been almost a year now. Hopefully I can get it installed this weekend and get some before and after video.

formula1LE

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Well by now your 1 yr warranty is expired too

LOL j/k!

sid 91RS

I'll put up before and after video after i get my kit for you, if no one else does before then.

sid 91RS

any update on when next batch of kits will be shipping out?

Ed1LE

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Finally installed my express up/down kit over the weekend. Only challenge I had was getting all the relays tucked out of the way but well worth the effort. Overall, super simple project to complete and well worth it, especially with a convertible!

formula1LE

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I have shipped all orders so I'm current as if right now-just got tracking confirmation to a kit destined for Michigan and before that I sent an order to good ole Canada about a week ago.

sid 91RS

just received my kit 😀
Looks awesome and very well made. I'll be doing the install this weekend and will make a quick before and after video for you
thanks again for the great service 👍🏼👍🏼

formula1LE

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Awesome! Yes please post videos so others can see the improved speed!

sid 91RS

before- 4ish seconds up. 3ish down
http://vid29.photobucket.com/albums/...u/IMG_3449.mp4

after- 3ish seconds up. 3ish down
not a big difference but my windows weren't that slow to begin with
http://vid29.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_3461_1.mp4

very pleased with the auto up/down feature and like that i can stop window at any point if desired

sid 91RS

Wasn't that bad getting the harness tucked away. Probably would have been a lot easier if I had single din deck 😳

formula1LE

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Nice!!

JonnyThrice

might be interested, what are you prices for the kits these days? And how does the auto up/down work?

Press and hold for auto, and just a quick press to use normally? or does it always go up/down in auto mode? Most cars have a little extra "click" for auto up/down

formula1LE

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$114 shipped for auto down or $146 for auto down/up. They function exactly like new vehicles-you can stop the window at any point during its express travel going up or down.

rgauder

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With the standard relay kit, does the switch still have power running to it as well as power to the relays?

formula1LE

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No-the switches now act as ground triggers for the relays-power is re-routed to the relays.

rgauder

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So power and ground wires now run to the relays, and only the 2 wires from the door motors go to the switches after running through the relays?

formula1LE

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Correct. All the wiring changes are done at the console switch area. Of the 8 total wires at the switches themselves only 6 are retained for the relay upgrade and auto features to function as designed. There is no difference in the wiring itself at the switches whether you opt for relay upgrade or for any auto up/down feature.

rgauder

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Thanks, got it now I think. Switches only have 2 wires running to them now, no ground or power, only the wires from the motor after running through the relays. Or does the switch need to be grounded still?

rurnt88

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speedmachine

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PM SENT

rurnt88

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blacksunshine'91

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Be patient. Something might be going on in his personal life for him to not reply to PMs and posts for this long. I've have been dealing with an issue on my recent order as well and have been having some issues getting a hold of him as well. He is normally very fast to reply. Sometimes we forget that we all have lives outside of TGO and that we might not want to post our personal issues here. Let's give him some slack and hope everything works out.

speedmachine

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Anyone made contact? im waiting on a harness still, hope everything is okay.

formula1LE

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All is well-I am arranging to send a kit to a member in Florida and yours is next-I have been working to build an inventory of LS swap harnesses for the 73-up truck guys too so thats a ton of parts/supplies to order. Typically I try to get some kits out within 2 weeks but it seems for every 2 custom harnesses I build I get 3 more orders lol....and not just 3rd gen stuff.

Ed1LE

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This kit is worth the wait. Very happy with mine. I'm surprised, with the number he's sold, formula1LE's iTrader feedback isn't higher!

MoJoe

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It sounds like business is good. While I'm not in a hurry at the moment (basement construction), I don't want to forget about it, nor be forgotten!

Napster134

Just sent in may payment!

Can't wait! ...

MoJoe

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Mine arrive last night.

Napster134

Mine is installed! (sorta!)

I installed it enough to get it working yet haven't finished putting the center back together.

Overall, it's a great product and very nicely put together. It is larger than it may seem from some of the pictures. The auto down is also really cool! My window speed (driver side) is a bit faster I believe. Oddly enough, my faster side was the passenger side which is barley working at the moment and I suspect it's because I haven't finished aligning and putting it back together since I was installing new weatherstripping for it. So will update with final thoughts once everything is in proper place.

With that in mind... I have a question! How is it that the relays are supposed to make the windows roll up/down faster if the existing wiring is still used? I would suspect that if I ran a wire from the battery to inside the center console and into the main power for the kit then it would really speed things up? Just curious if anyone's tried it or would suggest trying it or not?

mantaguy

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IIRC.the new relays that come with the kit allows more voltage= faster motors.

formula1LE

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The switches themselves act as a one way valve that restricts voltage and only gets worse over time as they age. My kit re-directs your battey power to the relays-not the switches which now act as ground triggers for said relays. Less resistance to voltage means more juice to the motors now. And, after that its much nicer to take advantage of the auto down/up feature too. And, my kit allows this upgrade with ZERO cutting or splicing to factory wiring so you retain the "originalness" of the console wiring too which a lot of people like.

formula1LE

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Just a heads up for everyone-I had a decent supply of OEM style window switch connectors to use in my kits just to make swapping yours out a bit easier-however, my supply is exhaused for the time being on them so you will simply need to re-use your existing ones. This doesnt affect the cost of my kit which will remain the same...initially I didn't include those connectors but then I got a deal on a small lot of them so I began adding them to make it easier to swap without adding to the cost of the harness kit. If anybody has a hoard of those connectors Id be interested in buying them tho-they appear to be a proprietary part exclusive to Delphi and nobody makes a reproduction of it that i've ever found.

At any rate, for those in the forseeable future who would like a relay/auto down/auto down-up window kit that is the only update for now.

Thanks again to everyone who've bought a kit this year-I hope you are happy with its performance!

formula1LE

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Id also like to add about the relays in particular that I use are industrial grade meaning they have a switching on/off rating far higher than a typical relay and all of the cheapo Ebay/parts store relays you find for a buck. The contact material combined with either a resistor or zener diode provides you with a relay that is rated:

250,000 cycles @ 40a load or;

100,000 cycles @ 50a load

This means you essentially have a relay bank that on its own through normal use is likely to never have a failure for a very long time. The only thing that I would worry about are spilled liquids. However, outside of slightly older, GM style sealed 480-series relays, there isnt a better relay to use-and those relays are OEM quality and while excellent in design, are about $18-22 each and that would put the price of the kit way too high imo.

I've tried to source the best components for the $$ and so far these TYCO relays are the best $$ value for high end relays with a very high build quality.

formula1LE

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ttt got these available at the moment...!

BOTTLEDZ28

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I still havent installed the kit I bought from you a while ago. Its still in the box. ve just been so busy. Anyway, are your current kits upgraded from the version I bought from you?

Ty92Z

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What’s the current price?

formula1LE

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Price is the same $146 shipped for auto down/up, $114 shipped for auto down and $86 shipped for the basic relay upgrade. I havent “upgraded” it as much as I’ve changed the relay style from a mini to a micro so that at least the relay bank itself is easier to hide under the console shift plate.

Ty92Z

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Didn’t know about the basic. So that would be faster operation without the one touch up/down?

formula1LE

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All of the optional relay kits start with a relate upgrade above and beyond that are the auto down then the auto down and up feature.