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Re: LS1 1991 Z28 Swap

I took off the Spohn adjustable torque arm, I cant run the exhaust the way I want. I started by swapping to a Jegster Torque arm. It wasnt bad to install, pulled the console and seats, pulled the carpet up. The carpet is actually separate from the cargo carpet so it wasnt bad. Then pull everything apart and started drilling holes. I was worried it might ride hash, but it is the same as the Spohn, and gives me massive clearance for my future exhaust.
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Here is another pic of the Jegster and its awesome clearance. I also put on an exhaust crossmember. My next step when I have time, is to install the StainlessWorks 1.7/8 primary, 3inch collector LS1 swap hedders. I cant wait to get that ugly y pipe off of there and do a custom 3inch y pipe tucked up nice and tight. I am stoked. I am going to a leaders course for the Army, when I get back I hope to do a Raptor cam and spring upgrade.
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raptor cam, never heard of that brand
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nice updates

never seen that type of torque arm set up

you mean 1 3/4 headers right? i dont think ssw makes 1 7/8 primaries.
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Just read this thread brad. Great work man good luck with her. I miss hood. Especially the sports dome. I was a cav man back from 99 to 05 in Aco 3/8 cav.


Lol did you do that burn out behind the px?
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never seen that type of torque arm set up

you mean 1 3/4 headers right? i dont think ssw makes 1 7/8 primaries.


Its the 1 7/8 with 3inch primaries. Bought them from Spohns web site. I will post pics of the install next month when I install them.
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Sick, is the ls1 suppose to have that good gas mileage? I might switch out my carb'd zz4 to an ls1....
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Sick, is the ls1 suppose to have that good gas mileage? I might switch out my carb'd zz4 to an ls1....
People are normally surprised. Before my hedder install I was seeing 28+ on the freeway.
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were you able to clear your e-brake bracket with the jegster torque arm bracket? I really wanted to go that route but ended up sending it back because I couldn't get it to clear the e-brake bracket.
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whats the wire harness run ya from speartech? i just heard their name today and im pretty interested in one from there
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Just read this thread brad. Great work man good luck with her. I miss hood. Especially the sports dome. I was a cav man back from 99 to 05 in Aco 3/8 cav.


Lol did you do that burn out behind the px?
haha no a pep boys right outside of the Fort Jackson main gate.
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Originally Posted by FryeDaddy
Sick, is the ls1 suppose to have that good gas mileage? I might switch out my carb'd zz4 to an ls1....
I get about 28mpg on the freeway doing 70. It might be even better if I hook my cruise back up.
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raptor cam, never heard of that brand
the RAPtr is from ThunderRacing. Do a search on youtube it sound wicked. Or view it here after my install.
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Originally Posted by dynodanmanda79
were you able to clear your e-brake bracket with the jegster torque arm bracket? I really wanted to go that route but ended up sending it back because I couldn't get it to clear the e-brake bracket.
Yes. I just made sure all was lined up before I ratcheted down on the Jegster bracket. Works fine.
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whats the wire harness run ya from speartech? i just heard their name today and im pretty interested in one from there
Go to Speartech.com and check them out. I think I paid 750, I think its 500 with a donor but I wanted brand mew.
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Okay, I realize I need rubber, just doing measurements and making sure this is the route I want to go. I have a 4th gen 2002 SS Camaro rear end and it does not require spacers for the 4th gen wheels I have or the C6 rims I am comparing.

Give me constructive criticism and not, "oh them is too dang wide" junk. Tell me what you think over all and if I am overlooking something.

Rim comparison



I have a fourth gen rear end and the back of my car is basically the same as a fourth gen. With the 2002 rear end I do NOT need spacers for fourth gen rims. Here are my 2002 SS split spoke rims, 17x9.

Here is the 2009 C6 Z06 19x11 knock offs I bought with a 64mm offset. NO spacer needed.

Distance from the bulge on the body of the wheel well on the C6 rim

Distance from the SS rims

SS rim front looking back
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C6 rims front looking back

C6 rim looking down front the wheel well bulge, only come out a 1/2 inch compared to the SS rims due to the offset

SS rim looking down from wheel well bulge




Everything clears on the bottom

After the tire is on I will probably need to do the big hammer mod, but the rim clears quite well.
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what tranny x-member did you go with?
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SICK CAR! I love your camaro, absolutely the best combination is an LS1 in a third gen.
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i like the vette rims but i like the color scheme of the 10 spokes. i think if you could take the vettes and get them black and chrome it would look sick. with them that color it just looks sorta off
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what tranny x-member did you go with?
The trans x member is the exhaust clearance one from HawksThirdGen.
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My latest update, I added HID reverse lights.

Before above, after below
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Here is a link where I briefly talk about it..
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...-light-my.html

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Re: LS1 1991 Z28 Swap

How do you like the jegster torque arm? And did the hawks crossmember relocate the torque arm mounting point?
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The Hawks crossmember does not have provisions for a torque arm mount. The jegster bolts to the tunnel. I think its a great piece of hardware.
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Sweet man! Thanks for the link!
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Thought I would share my head and cam swap. Stock engine with stock manifolds it made the 300rwhp/300rwtq.

I decided to be a little conservative on the cam so the valvetrain and stock shortblock wouldnt take too must punishment.

The cam is an MTI X1 230/227 .591/.571 lsa 112

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The heads are port and polished 799's which are the same as 243 minus the hollow valve stems.



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Teardown was easy. No suprises.


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I forgot to post specs on the cam.

MTI X1 230/227 .591/.571 lsa 112

Video after swap

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Dyno Tune. 2002 LS1 with CNC ported 799 heads and MTI X1 camshaft. Put down 415rwhp and 398rwtq thru a crappy exhaust with a cut out. Also has electric water pump, LT, cold air intake. I think with a better exhaust and a better tune there is more in this set up. But it has proven to be a reliable daily driver with great street manners.


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Untuned.

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Nice gains after the heads and cam swap! Really nice car overall congrats. Happy to hear you are daily driving it with no problem because that is the plan for my setup as well.

How much of a pain in the butt was it to do the cam swap with the engine still in the car?
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Nice gains after the heads and cam swap! Really nice car overall congrats. Happy to hear you are daily driving it with no problem because that is the plan for my setup as well.

How much of a pain in the butt was it to do the cam swap with the engine still in the car?
It was actually very easy to do with the engine in. I used LS1HOWTO.COM as a reference and did it over a weekend so I wasnt in a rush.

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Sounds awesome out back! So, after these years, survey says LS1 swap; yay or nay?

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It changed my life!
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Did you ever finish hooking up the A/c in your car? If you did what lines did you use, the 4th gen ones or the 3rd gen ones? My car had just the dryer under the hood when I got it. I have the 4th gen compressor, like you, I am just trying to get my a/c to work. My car is like riding in oven in the summer time. If you could put a couple pictures of it up too, that would be great p.s. your car looks great love the wheels!
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My ac works great. Went to a local ac shop and they built the lines and charged/checked for leaks.
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So I sold my Z28 because I wanted a GTO. Is it me or do we all, always regret selling our cars? I miss her. And the guy I sold it to bought it to flip it. Didn't make any money though because there just isn't much of a market for 3rd gens. Then that guy sold her again only to have the next guy blow the motor. Last I knew they were selling her as a roller.
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So I sold my Z28 because I wanted a GTO. Is it me or do we all, always regret selling our cars? I miss her. And the guy I sold it to bought it to flip it. Didn't make any money though because there just isn't much of a market for 3rd gens. Then that guy sold her again only to have the next guy blow the motor. Last I knew they were selling her as a roller.


Oh man, that sucks! I've been through quite a few third gens and the only one I regret selling was my first. It wasn't anything special just an 88 IROC 350tpi/700R4 with 2.77s out back T-top, but it was a blast to drive and had the right feel. I might just regret it because it was my first or because the one I replaced it with was such a basket case, but eventually I found another 3rd gen that I think will be a forever car; 91 1le LS1/T56 34k miles on the body when I got it, sitting around 43k now.


You should see about buying it back as a roller. There are so many more options now motor wise since you did your swap.


What made you go with a GTO?
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Not sure I would want it as a roller, too depressing. I do think I will pick up a 92 Z28 at some point and do a similar build. As far as a GTO we had a 2004 as a family car for a bit. I got tired of the typical 3rd Gen issues since it had been my daily 15 plus years and got the bug out of the blue for something different. I swore I would keep the GTO stock. I have since bought a Tfs LS2 550hp top end kit. It never stops.
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