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Old 04-02-2018, 08:22 AM
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Is it possible to run exhaust the same way you've done it and retain the torque arm?
I don't believe it would be possible, but if we tried, it would probably be extremely tight.
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I think they just put a few drops of black paint into some clear coat and spray it on. A tinted clear.
You would be correct. I apologize for the delay in response, we have been very busy around here!
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Curious at how the tire clearance is going since you have been racing the car? Have they hit the fenders at all?
We have experienced very minor rubbing in the front when the suspension is loaded, but we are working to eliminate all rubbing at the moment.
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Do you have a photo of the lower portion of the radiator and how it fits near the DSE front steering brace? I'm nervous that I'll spend a bunch on a radiator and then find that it interferes with the front brace system. Another member in the LSx swap section has this problem.

Also, how did you connect the AN fitting to the upper water pump port? I am in the process of threading in an AN fitting (After pulling the pressed tube out) but your options seems simpler.
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Do you have a photo of the lower portion of the radiator and how it fits near the DSE front steering brace? I'm nervous that I'll spend a bunch on a radiator and then find that it interferes with the front brace system. Another member in the LSx swap section has this problem.

Also, how did you connect the AN fitting to the upper water pump port? I am in the process of threading in an AN fitting (After pulling the pressed tube out) but your options seems simpler.
We used the factory lower mounting location for the radiator and it does not interfere with the brace. As far as the AN fitting, it after we pulled the neck out, we machined a "press-in" style AN fitting to put it in it's place.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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We used the factory lower mounting location for the radiator and it does not interfere with the brace. As far as the AN fitting, it after we pulled the neck out, we machined a "press-in" style AN fitting to put it in it's place.

Ahh, very slick. Great info here. I appreciate the response. I pulled out the upper neck but never thought about pressing in another style fitting? I bought some of the threaded necks designed to go into the pump (from Aero Flow) but they are too small in diameter. I am going to try and run a 1-5/16" tap through there and use an AN universal fitting.

Edit: Saw you made a custom neck.
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Oh, you guys changed your website.... and it sucks to use now. Please put the vehicle categories back in!

I can't find the damn steering brace.

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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Looks like it's part of a package only?

https://www.detroitspeed.com/product...8Wonder+Bar%29
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Oh, you guys changed your website.... and it sucks to use now. Put the vehicle categories back in!
Agreed, it was much easier to use when you could just browse by vehicle, now you have to browse by category, horrible layout
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What are the tabs welded to the bottom of the k-member for?
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What are the tabs welded to the bottom of the k-member for?
Those are so they can strap the car down easier for transport.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Well she hit the ground today. Hoping to street test shortly...

Where did you get those rear plastics!? Those are sweet!

Also, didn’t see anything on how and what was used to smooth the rear bumper out?

What kind of gauge bezel is that?
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Where did you get those rear plastics!? Those are sweet!

Also, didn’t see anything on how and what was used to smooth the rear bumper out?

What kind of gauge bezel is that?
Can you link a clear pictures of it? I can't seem to find one.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Can you link a clear pictures of it? I can't seem to find one.
What pictures are you looking for? I had three questions. Let me know
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What pictures are you looking for? I had three questions. Let me know
lol Sorry, I hate when people do that. The gauge bezel. I didn't see any clear pictures of it to tell what it was.
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lol Sorry, I hate when people do that. The gauge bezel. I didn't see any clear pictures of it to tell what it was.
Hah, No worries. Here they are!





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Hah, No worries. Here they are!


Those are Spek gauges. Autometer is the parent company now. You see them in the NASCAR scene from what I hear, but DSE uses them in a lot of cars. Looks like they just cut a flat insert for them.
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Those are Spek gauges. Autometer is the parent company now. You see them in the NASCAR scene from what I hear, but DSE uses them in a lot of cars. Looks like they just cut a flat insert for them.
Hmmm interesting
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Hello DSE - How was the trans tunnel opening made for the T56?

I cut a 2" extension on my car the first time I installed a T56 but am building the car from the ground up, fresh and want to improve fit and finish. Your trans tunnel opening looks great and very tight to the trans.

I see Holley sells one of these for second gens. I was thinking of buying that and grafting it into my tunnel. Was yours one off custom piece?

Finally, did you use a rubber boot over that hole, or did you just install the interior right over that?

Back in my hack days, I am ashamed to say I used a piece of Dynamat Original cut to the size of the hole with a cross cut in the center and sheet metal screwed it down to the floor... happy those days are over.

Thanks for any advice/guidance you can provide.
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Sorry for my last post. I went further back in the build thread and found my answers!
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Maybe I read passed it but what was done for the fuel system on this car? Specifically, what tank did you use since the early 3rd gen tanks weren't baffled. Are you running an OEM style set-up, 4th gen, or hybrid?
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Maybe I read passed it but what was done for the fuel system on this car? Specifically, what tank did you use since the early 3rd gen tanks weren't baffled. Are you running an OEM style set-up, 4th gen, or hybrid?
Based on this picture, it isn't an unmodified stock tank from any FBody. If you hit them up directly for information, I'm sure they can tell you more.
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Maybe I read passed it but what was done for the fuel system on this car? Specifically, what tank did you use since the early 3rd gen tanks weren't baffled. Are you running an OEM style set-up, 4th gen, or hybrid?
Its a stock 3rd gen replacement tank that they notched for exhaust clearance. Not sure on what fuel pump they used, but its a stock sending unit with the lines modified for the fuel tank access door in the hatch.
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Its a stock 3rd gen replacement tank that they notched for exhaust clearance. Not sure on what fuel pump they used, but its a stock sending unit with the lines modified for the fuel tank access door in the hatch.
Do they have any fuel starvation issues on the road course? I know these tanks don't have baffles, or the cup around the pickup for that matter, and when you are below half tank you get suction issues.
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Do they have any fuel starvation issues on the road course? I know these tanks don't have baffles, or the cup around the pickup for that matter, and when you are below half tank you get suction issues.
Right, that part I dont know. I know if you call and talk to them they will answer any of your questions. I thought some of the replacement tanks had baffles. I have a new summit one in the garage that I havent taken out of the box yet. But I'll take a look in it tonight and let you know if its baffled or not.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Right, that part I dont know. I know if you call and talk to them they will answer any of your questions. I thought some of the replacement tanks had baffles. I have a new summit one in the garage that I havent taken out of the box yet. But I'll take a look in it tonight and let you know if its baffled or not.
That would be great if you could. I will call them up, just been traveling for work and dropped a quick reply in.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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That would be great if you could. I will call them up, just been traveling for work and dropped a quick reply in.
We have yet to experience any fuel starvation issues on the road course with our set up. As it was mentioned previously, this is a factory 3rd gen tank that we notched for exhaust clearance. As far as fuel system goes, it is a Walbro 450lph pump and we made some stainless hard lines to run up to the regulator/rails.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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We have yet to experience any fuel starvation issues on the road course with our set up. As it was mentioned previously, this is a factory 3rd gen tank that we notched for exhaust clearance. As far as fuel system goes, it is a Walbro 450lph pump and we made some stainless hard lines to run up to the regulator/rails.
This is encouraging. I've been reading the 91 and 92 tanks are better for limiting fuel slosh but know your car is an older model or was it an aftermarket OEM replacement? Did you run a hotwire to that pump?
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This is encouraging. I've been reading the 91 and 92 tanks are better for limiting fuel slosh but know your car is an older model or was it an aftermarket OEM replacement? Did you run a hotwire to that pump?
Yes, it is a OEM replacement tank. The pump runs off of the Holley Dominator EFI. It triggers the relay from an ignition source and has a 5 second priming timer.
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Almost forgot! We also updated the car with some Forgeline FF3C Concave Open Lug wheels. And before you ask...the Formula 43's are not for sale, lol.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Yes, it is a OEM replacement tank. The pump runs off of the Holley Dominator EFI. It triggers the relay from an ignition source and has a 5 second priming timer.

Stock sending unit? Or did you guys use one of the new holley EFI sending units? Car looks great by the way. You've done the 3rd gen community a huge favor by making this car.
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Stock sending unit? Or did you guys use one of the new holley EFI sending units? Car looks great by the way. You've done the 3rd gen community a huge favor by making this car.
It is all Holley. Thank you!
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You wouldn't happen to have any pics of the top of the tank with the Holley set through your access hole?
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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You wouldn't happen to have any pics of the top of the tank with the Holley set through your access hole?
Looking back at our photos, I stand corrected (It's been a while since I've seen the service cover off). Matt modified a factory sending unit with AN fittings. My fault.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Looking back at our photos, I stand corrected (It's been a while since I've seen the service cover off). Matt modified a factory sending unit with AN fittings. My fault.
Very helpful, many thanks!
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Looking back at our photos, I stand corrected (It's been a while since I've seen the service cover off). Matt modified a factory sending unit with AN fittings. My fault.
What about the fuel ventilation? Do you have a charchol cannister with this? If not, how is the fuel fumes?
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What about the fuel ventilation? Do you have a charchol cannister with this? If not, how is the fuel fumes?
They are probably using the stock style vent valve that is near the tank. They aren't running a charcoal canister. Most people get rid of that when they do a swap.
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They are probably using the stock style vent valve that is near the tank. They aren't running a charcoal canister. Most people get rid of that when they do a swap.
interesting. Any idea on how to do this? I’m really trying to get rid of this cannister and have been looking at options. Vent comes out of the tank and simply put a vent valve! Any part number known to work best?
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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interesting. Any idea on how to do this? I’m really trying to get rid of this cannister and have been looking at options. Vent comes out of the tank and simply put a vent valve! Any part number known to work best?
There should already be a vent valve attached to a hose coming off your stock fuel tank sending unit. Leave that one alone. There is another line that is for the charcoal canister. You can remove the entire canister system and plug off the line with a vacuum cap at the sending unit.

The valve vents the tank. The charcoal system doesn't. It merely condenses the fuel vapors in the motor and returns them to the tank.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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The valve vents the tank. The charcoal system doesn't. It merely condenses the fuel vapors in the motor and returns them to the tank.
Your description is backwards; the charcoal can catches vapors from the tank, and when running, the engine will draw off and burn those vapors. It will help your car stink less when you park it in your garage.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Your description is backwards; the charcoal can catches vapors from the tank, and when running, the engine will draw off and burn those vapors. It will help your car stink less when you park it in your garage.
I’ve done a bit of research and everything I can find says that without the cannister, these cars reek of gas. Plugging the vapor line from the tank sounds like a bad idea. Any more input? Detroit Speed? What did you guys do to get that clean look?
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Originally Posted by brando278705
Any more input? Detroit Speed? What did you guys do to get that clean look?
Swapping the LS plastic tank is a popular swap. It has the charcoal can at / with / on the tank, to move it from under the hood, to at the tank.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Sorry if this is said some place else, but how was the car refinished on the underside?

I know the entire car got blasted, then epoxy primed, then U-POL truck bed liner was applied to the wheel wells.

Was the underside just painted and cleared? And that's it?
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Bringing this back from the dead but was hoping DSE still monitors this.

I am curious what headlights they used and what connectors they used when wiring them up. It looks like a modern connector with the three prong inlets. I hate the way the OEM headlight harness looks and I want to mimic what they did.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

got to see the dsz run the autocross at good guys last month.super nice build.got to talk with kyle tucker too real nice knowledgeable dude.

also the dse z made it on the hoonigans build biology

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nice, what size tire are you running up front, and whats your scrub radius look like?
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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nice, what size tire are you running up front, and whats your scrub radius look like?
I know the tires are 315/30/18 on a 18x11 wheel. Someone from DSE will have to answer the scrub radius.
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I know the tires are 315/30/18 on a 18x11 wheel. Someone from DSE will have to answer the scrub radius.
cool, i thought i was the only one with 315 up front, lol but i do have a perfect scrub though , and im on a coilover
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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cool, i thought i was the only one with 315 up front, lol but i do have a perfect scrub though , and im on a coilover
We've been running 315 square for almost 3 years on the GTA. They fit with no body mods with stock style front suspension.


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