carlos64030

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I'm looking forward to see how the fitment of the rear wheels pan out with the 4th gen axle. Did you order 3rd gen or 4th gen spec wheels?

FooFighters92

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What do you mean? They are 5x120 bolt pattern (pretty sure BMW) but bolts right up to third gens. Specs are 18x10 all four corners, with a +12 offset. I really didn't do a ton of research because member, Zach/90\irocZ, had a pretty good write up. He used the same exact wheels as me, but just had a different offset and color. He has a 3rd gen rear end so I knew it would be a stretch, literally, to make these fit. The tires I bought actually came early and I dropped them off at NTB earlier today around 3, but had to go to work so I couldn't pick them up. I will have them back tomorrow and should have pictures for you all. As I stated before, I am extremely nervous about the look the rears are going to have.

I like a somewhat wider rear, like I do now with my 4th gen, but I am thinking it could look odd. We will see

FooFighters92

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Picked them up today from NTB! I ended up stripping a lug with my shitty 4-way, so I will have to deal with that. I might not have pictures of them on the car today, but I do have pictures of the tires mounted on the wheel!

CharcoalBird

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...how much longer? look forward to seeing it.

Justin89Formy

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ya.i want pics!

FooFighters92

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Sorry guys! Nobody wants to see them on more than me, trust me!

We got hit with yet another winter storm and got snow...just an insane winter for Ohio so I just haven't had the chance to get them on. I did remove that lug though...check this thing out:



I used an Irwin sprial teeth 19mm socket, hammered it on and used a breaker bar and it came loose. Was a pita though...it didn't wanna come off being previously put on with air.

Ok so here are the pics of the wheels and tires, now before I post them I want to be very clear about something. I, ME, Kristian, like the look of stretched tires. I know it is an import/drift style, but I really like the look and that's what I wanted to have on my car. So I ordered tires that all the import/drifters use for stretching tires. Dunlop Direzza DZ101's are a high performance summer tire, and like I said are really popular in the stretch community. Also note that my car is extremely low, and I needed very low profile tires to even fit the look that I wanted. Now please for all the people who want to hate on my decision and my car please just go away...you don't have to tell me that it will look awful, it's worse for performance, I'll curb rash and ruin my rims, I'm ruining the third gen name, the wheels will fly off when I'm driving. Just shut it...you're wrong. Also want to make it very clear that this was also not a money decision which is what a lot of people like to say. I could have bought any tires that I wanted. It was a decision based off the fact that I wanted stretched tires with a little lip sticking out and that's it. I think it looks good

Pics of tires and wheels:








And this is how they sit now waiting on better weather!

Justin89Formy

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interesting

Linson

Not trying to be parade-rainer-on-er, but it looks to me like those tires are too narrow for those wheels, and those wheels, unfortunately, might be too wide for your application.

Linson

Went back and read your post. Didn't know you were into that...

Justin89Formy

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I think his request was actually that he wanted people with opinions like yours to go away lol

Linson

yes I understand (and I did note the "lol" at the end of your comment) but just for the record, I saw the photos, commented, then went back and read the post that went with the photos, and then commented again that I was unaware that that was the look that he was going for. at first, it seemed to me that he had a mismatch of parts. now it sounds like I'm passive-aggressively shitting on his choice...

guess we'll wait and see how it looks on the car.

FooFighters92

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Well it's just typical for people to be pretty one sided, especially in this car community. If I don't put 305 tires that have a bulging sidewall on my car people will freak out and think it's stupid. lol I think stretched tires look good, so what? Now people realize that my setup is very minimal stretching, which is what I wanted. Just has a tad amount of lip sticking out, which was inevitable because I needed the clearance for my fenders or I would have rubbed really bad. I made sure you could see the lip in the pictures really good, but it really isn't that noticeable just looking at them. It's very tastefully done. Even though this is probably what you see lol:


I HATE when the wheels stick out a ton, I think it looks awful. But when it's done right, I love it.

If you have no idea what stretching is, here is a video of how it is done. They use a high pressure air gun called a "Cheetah"

This is pretty much the exact amount of stretch that I have for a better view;

Zach/90\irocZ

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Lol if he gets the stance down ..which looks on point from the pics I think it would look good especially if he get the wheels more flush with fender than the inner fender with a low stance

from performance stand point , and im not talking about the extreme tire stretch that goes on like pic posted above , there are performance gains that can be seen and better response and feedback from the tires , due to the stiffer sidewall from being stretch it is practice and alot of racing organizations and factory car manufacturers look into the ZL1 Camaro which runs a stretch tire in the rear for better balance response and handling, and many other especially the german and japanese sports sedans and coupes so to say 18x10 all around and reasonable stretch tire is a mismatch or is to wide for a f body application isnt ideal than thats wrong idea and I can say that some of the best thirdgens handling wise are running a 9.5 or wider all around and IMO is the perfect setup for our cars and love it wouldnt go narrower than 9.5

Drag racing application Is different but you get my drift

you can check my sig and thread if you have any questions lol

CharcoalBird

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Wasn't expecting that. I've seen quite a few cars with tires stretched and haven't liked a single one. I think being yours in black on black it is less noticeable. Also, that beamer doesn't look bad at all.

Was 82F today here in FL...enjoy your snow, hahaha. Not funny actually. My a/c doesn't work and my driver side window decided to quit working today. Perfect timing.

Zach/90\irocZ

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I agree Charcoal If OP gets the stance and wheels sitting right it will look badass

miss miami my home town lol

Like this GTO its not for everyone but if you get right , you cant deny the beauty lol just like in bmw posted above

CharcoalBird

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After viewing the BMW and the GTO again and again...the BMW looks okay with the stretch but the GTO is just calling for some more meat. Good looking car none-the-less...maybe I'm just use to seeing it with wider tires.

FooF, hopefully the weather clears up for you all up there and you are able to add the wheels to your car soon.

Linson

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wrong. but more times than not, when I see a wheel/tire combination like yours, it is simply a mismatch of parts that wasn't very well thought out - not a deliberate visual statement.

FooFighters92

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Here is how I was able to calculate clearance and fitment...used this quite a bit when it came down to tire size and what it would look like. A VERY good program for anyone trying to calculate wheel and tire combos and what it would look like.

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...or_English.xls

It's an immediate download link, should be an excel program. Check it out

FooFighters92

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Got them on today...was dark by the time we got them on, I am very happy with the way they look!

I'm off tomorrow it's supposed to be nice and sunny. Pics tomorrow!

Zach/90\irocZ

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Good to here postem

scooter

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I won't comment on the wrong size tire on the wheel, but just an FYI for safety our cars are NOT 5 on 120mm and it CAN stress your wheel studs. I am not saying you will have a problem, but if a wheel does come off you can get hurt, or injure others. Just because it bolts on doesn't mean you should.

At the very least you should shave the lug seats to the same 5 on 120.65mm pattern like //<86TA>\\ did on his BMW wheels so they won't stress the studs.

Been following your thread for a while. You had me until the tires :/

FooFighters92

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Pics:

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karl's-92'-z28

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Looks killer....what size adapters are you using & how much is your drop?

karl's-92'-z28

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What size adapters are you using? Looks killer

Zach/90\irocZ

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Hmmm .. I like where you going with the car

IMO a fender flare custom or something can't put my thumb on it , would like look see lower stance to get it perfect for starters lol
Did you remove your rear rubber isolator and to heater hose mod, that can help even out your stance and give less of a rake when I did mines my rear dropped about a 1/2 inch
Or maybe a ground control setup

Did you roll fender in rear ? Had to tell can gain some clearance from there if you haven't

Looks killer I was partial to the gunmetal, especially when I black out the tail lights , they didn't have black In stock when I got mines at the time ... I'm still lost on what wheels I want to settle on , traded my wheels for xxr 531s now smh

MASON1259

Wow. I dig it. Looks good man. I never thought I'd say that about the VIP look on a 3rd Gen. but you made it work.

karl's-92'-z28

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Air bags!!!!!

Barlow8869

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it looks a bit like those are rubbing, other than that, looks good

FooFighters92

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I used 2" spacers on the front, and have a 4th gen rear axle with no spacers. I couldn't tell you how much my drop is...it's a lot...lol.
Thanks man I was waiting for your input. I rolled the fenders slightly when I first lowered the car and put the 2" spacers on the front, I haven't done any extra rolling and pulling since I've put on my new wheel/tire combo. I plan to do so because the passenger front tire is rubbing slightly, other than that I have complete turning radius an it doesn't rub. But I am still going to roll and pull a little all around the car to have the most clearance possible even though at this point I don't think I would have to and I would be fine. That is an idea with the rubber isolator. I don't mind the rake too much, I might do something to it later down the road to even it out, but honestly I'm a little afraid to go any lower lol

I thought the 521's looked amazing on your car. The gunmetal/white combo worked as I think the black/blue combo works on my car. But I do think I am biased at this point.

Thanks so much man!
Lol. Yes it is rubbing slightly, but I'll gain some clearance when I roll the fenders!

I am curious though, all the people that said that I got the wrong tires or that they didn't like stretched tires I haven't heard from anyone since I posted pictures? Hmm

Eric-86sc

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Wow this car looks amazing. As a person who doesn't like stretched tires, they work very well on your car. I would do the amber delete tail lights or trans am tail lights and call the car done.

Zach/90\irocZ

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Rear isolated easy to pull out with rear springs , for me just needed to jack rear up to let axle hang , then slid springs out , I never really liked the rake the small details stick out the most to me .

Did you remove front liner ? It's connect to liner to roll front fender you need to remove it

But I agree the gunmetal looked great till the the color of the brakes and engine and the black rear taillights etc , it just didn't seem perfect to me ..then I plan to tint windows so also

then with the Brembo brake upgrade I would off had issues with the front wheels due to .6" offset change and clearance issues with wheel lug bolts with a less than a 1/4" spacer also so either way i need something different ..your offset is a lot more attractive to me as I didn't know they offered them till now and would fit my car well just small slip on in front , the wheels are easy to come by cheap so might snag some up off Craigslist some time ..

But it looks great on you car I'm biased towards black wheels and or black lipped wheels myself lol

CharcoalBird

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Nice! I like it. I would say add a powerbulge hood if you were to change anything about it.

FooFighters92

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Thanks man! I've thought about doing a tail light swap, but haven't really decided yet.
Yes the front liner is "removed" lol it acutally got ripped out when I first lowered the car. Well hey man good luck on whatever you choose, I'm sure it will look great. Also, definitely go get a window tint, like now. lol One of the best things I've ever had done to my car. I plan on taking mine back to Ziebart to have the front windows re-done. They are still in perfect condition, but I am not happy with going with the legal limit that Ohio has. Yes it's taking a risk with tickets, but I see people driving around wayyyy darker than mine. I'm going to do a 20% most likely. Same as my hatch which I love.
Thanks man! It's actually kinda funny my buddy was really pressing me to get the 526's like you have. Your wheels look killer on your car, I just preferred the 521's over them. Variety in the 3rd gen community is good though!

My next project is definitely a spoiler swap to the 85-90 aero wing. Does anyone know how these are installed having a 91-92 non-aero wing on the car now?

Zach/90\irocZ

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Yea it will be next in line , worrying about performance right now, should have trouble with the law people run darker , usually people get pulled over for a traffic violation or moving violation then instead of getting ticket for that they give them a tint fix it ticket as a slap on the wrist I was thinking about 20% all around or slightly lighter

Power pulge and wing will look good
variety is good , tired of the old played out corvette wheels lol your going to use adapters make a better choice , unless there track wheels of some short that's that's excusable

For 521 and 526 only know about 3 people running them 3 for the 526 wheels

I love your car so far has a different twist and not the norm lol

What are your other plans to car ?

FooFighters92

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Thanks man...every man's car is their canvas. I'm always constantly thinking of what I can do to it...feels good to have such an ongoing project. I would however like to have a new car for DD. That may be coming later this year after my promotion at work.

My plans for the car as of today:

- 85-90 aero wing spoiler (used or Hawks)
- 2005+ 5.3 LSX motor swap + cam
- Suspension goodies
- Powerbuldge hood or GTA hood w/vents
- Brake upgrade
- Modernizing interior
- Nice sub and speakers
- HID headlights

That's all I can really think of right now...of course most of that is pretty vague...but you get the idea where I'm going with it.

FooFighters92

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Zach/90\irocZ

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Lol yea mines was my DD considering another DD like a G8 lol also till I started the swap lol been lazy lately and training for deployment but it's been a ongoing project

Good luck nice work

karl's-92'-z28

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Air Bags!!!!!!

Linson

[quote=FooFighters92;5724030]
I did remove that lug though...check this thing out:



^^ thats nothing. i laugh at your lug nut.

vv try this on for size. vv



i keep it to remind myself that where there's a will there's a way.

86T/A_Ram_Air

Wow man car is looking good. Love the stance and it is of course my favorite third gen color

Myfirstconvert

I second that!!!!!

FooFighters92

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[QUOTE=Linson;5729760]Wow that thing is insane...how did you get that off? Looks like you might have welded something on to it? lol

Also thanks for all the kind words about my car...feels great! Seems that winter has beaten Spring down a little bit though currently in Ohio...pretty cold temps today and really nothing to look forward to in the forecast. Sigh

FooFighters92

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Haven't done much with the car besides drive it! Been busy with work and what not and the car being my DD I can only do so much. The only things I've done to it recently are I finally swapped it out with a 140mph 8k gauge cluster with only 100k miles. I replaced every single bulb in it with LEDs from superbrightleds.com

I put some flat black Grand Sport stripes on the fenders, and I also ordered a 99-04 Mustang gloss black bullit fuel door, which I am probably going to plasti dip flat black to stay consistent with my accent color. Pics!

scooter

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Which white LED did you put in for the ambient lighting?

FooFighters92

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Here is a link to the exact bulbs I bought. I selected "Natural White" as the color.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/morei...edge-base/199/

If you are looking for the pure white look, which is what I was looking for, than do not let the picture fool you. The picture makes them look very pure white, but in person the do have a hue of yellow, but not much. Just a heads up.

LCJ3

i just read your whole thread and i must say that every upgrade or modification was done made you bird truly unique and shows how much you love you car. i have just sent my bird (91 V6 auto) out to have engine and trans removed in preparation for a 383 t-5 swap ad i will be revisiting your thread to maybe do some of the same lighting upgrades and follow your progress if i see and birds with gfx i'll pm you and let you know asap. Keep up the high level of attention to detail and I can see your bird being nominated for COTM. BTW love the POLICE INTERCEPTOR badge

FooFighters92

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Advice?

LCJ3

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