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Old 08-12-2018, 07:21 PM
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Re: '90 Maui 350 build.

Remarkably similar stories, you and me. I had a black ‘89 Formula 350 - a project that I just couldn’t get off the ground. It was a West Texas car, so rust wasn’t an issue, but literally every other thing was completely ratted out. It needed a new nose because a previous owner apparently tried to fab in a Knight Rider scanner type deal using like a box cutter and...glue I guess. And the interior - forget about it.

I too, didn’t want to get rid of it, but eventually bailed when I got a hard top *Medium Maui Blue...ish*. Honestly, I don’t know if that’s right, calling it Maui Blue. I know it’s listed that way but I’ve seen “Maui Blue” on some Camaros, and I’m telling ya, it’s NOT the same color. It’s like a greenish tint, whereas mine has a vibrant purplish & silverish tint that varies depending on light conditions. It’s confusing so I’ll digress...

Anyway, bailed on the black car, got a blue one similar to yours. When I got it, the fuel was completely varnish, and the engine had to be overhauled (things were not as advertised). So I had to pull the drivetrain on the blue one.

Oh, and it was 2002 when I got the black one. I ended up giving it away.






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Remarkably similar stories, you and me. I had a black ‘89 Formula 350 - a project that I just couldn’t get off the ground. It was a West Texas car, so rust wasn’t an issue, but literally every other thing was completely ratted out. It needed a new nose because a previous owner apparently tried to fab in a Knight Rider scanner type deal using like a box cutter and...glue I guess. And the interior - forget about it.

I too, didn’t want to get rid of it, but eventually bailed when I got a hard top *Medium Maui Blue...ish*. Honestly, I don’t know if that’s right, calling it Maui Blue. I know it’s listed that way but I’ve seen “Maui Blue” on some Camaros, and I’m telling ya, it’s NOT the same color. It’s like a greenish tint, whereas mine has a vibrant purplish & silverish tint that varies depending on light conditions. It’s confusing so I’ll digress...

Anyway, bailed on the black car, got a blue one similar to yours. When I got it, the fuel was completely varnish, and the engine had to be overhauled (things were not as advertised). So I had to pull the drivetrain on the blue one.

Oh, and it was 2002 when I got the black one. I ended up giving it away.



Yeah, I've been pretty frustrated with this one. Fortunately everything that's been junk so far would have been upgraded eventually anyway. I'll just put it on the back burner when I've had enough until I'm ready to look at it again. It's been a fight the entire way, nothing has just bolted up and worked and this chassis has had a hard life. This weekend I wanted to finally get it running and driving to make it to a local show next Saturday. Got the clutch working and mounted and balanced the tires. Went to put the wheels on the car and they are grinding on the tie rod ends WITH 1/4 spacers. Sure enough they fit every other car but this one. Put the stock wheels back on and the calipers are also seized. Installed the Hawks clutch master that is supposed to be a tight fit and I had to dimple my inner fender to fit it. I don't think this car wants to live. But its SO D*MN CLOSE.

So I figure I'm not out of the running just yet. Went to town and bought two new front calipers and could only find one brake hose. Installed the caliper on the car and the bleeder is installed to 80+ft lbs and immediately rounds off and flips me the finger as it fails to loosen. Put on the brake hose (made in China) and... It's made wrong. You can't clip it into the retainer. I'll have to take a picture later. So now I have better hoses ordered from Jegs. I took the caliper back off and vice gripped the bleeder out and used one from the old caliper. God willing and I don't twist the hard lines off, there's still a small amount of hope for next weekend. I'll have to take off early Friday to make it to the DMV for plates and finish the brakes. I still intend to install big brakes on the car, but for $20 a caliper I just want to get it drive able for right now. Oh and there's a pool of antifreeze on the intake manifold after running it up to temp.

I ground about as much as I care too on the tie rods and the drivers wheel still rubs. The passenger side cleared with just a little grinding. I might have to buy some 3/8th spacers. Of course there won't be enough threads grabbing for my liking but I have some ARP long studs sitting in the garage already.

On a positive note, the car looks absolutely bad *** on the new wheels, and runs like a champ!

Your car is looking great too BTW!

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Old 08-18-2018, 08:46 PM
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Re: '90 Maui 350 build.

Productive week. It lives! I feels good to be back behind the wheel of a Formula again.



Got the wheels on the car. I measured the backspace on them and they're advertised at 5 3/8ths. They are actually measuring at 5 1/2" bs. I ended up having to stack two 1/4 in spacers to make them fit. Of course the studs were too short for 1/2" worth of spacers, so I had to replace them with longer ARP studs. Only temporary until I upgrade the brakes, then I can eliminate one of the spacers.



The wheels really made the car. What a difference!


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Old 08-18-2018, 09:07 PM
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Re: '90 Maui 350 build.

Made it out to a car show today with TTOP350 and DD9TRANSAMGTA. Congrats to Cameron for taking home a 2nd place trophy with his GTA. Of course Tony brought three of the six cars pictured

Formula did pretty good. No major issues and the transmission was shifting great. I highly recommend just spending the money on decent hydraulics if you do a T56 swap. The Hawks master cylinder is the ticket, well worth it. My clutch engagement and pedal height is now the best of any swap car I've personally experienced, and it even seems to have stiffened up the firewall and gotten rid of all the flex considerably. The engine only turns 600 RPM in 6th at 65mph! Had a little bit of an antifreeze leak from the thermostat housing and I need to figure out the SGI5E box. Apparently I don't have something right because I have no speedometer. So I guess next is to get that figured out, get my brakes upgraded, and I'm considering repainting my wing with some dupli-color paint until I can get some professional paint work done.
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Old 08-18-2018, 09:27 PM
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What a great day, glad we all got to get together. Maybe next time the other 4 guys could make it!
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Old 08-19-2018, 04:55 PM
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Outstanding.

Tony, did your wife drive the convertible to the car show?

Nice to see some Third Gen Formulas representing.
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I’m no expert, but two (2) slip on spacers sounds dicey.
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Re: '90 Maui 350 build.

Congrats in getting her on the road. Those wheels DO look great.

And a nice little gather you all had there. Looks like fun.
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My wife drove her 98 Trans am and a friend drove the vert, he is still working on his 90 formula 350.. We had a fun day.
​​​​​​​All the formulas in the pic are 350 cars too!

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Old 09-02-2018, 12:36 PM
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Iím no expert, but two (2) slip on spacers sounds dicey.
I thought the same, but I did some thorough research on the interwebs and was assured it would be OK. I put them on that was as just a temporary means to get it the short drive down to the car show. I personally don't feel comfortable running them that way myself even though I was told it would be fine.

I plan on taking the car to a few HPDEs so a brake upgrade is the next thing on the list. The factory brakes are hardly sufficient to drive these cars on the street, let alone on a track. But anyway, that should space things out enough to remove one of the spacers at least.

I'm torn though on which kit I want to buy. If I go with C5 then I would imagine I could get a lifetime warranty on calipers and rotors if I went though a parts house. The Wilwood stuff sure is nice though. Ability to drop in pads and a lot less unsprung weight. God knows I gave up enough of that with the choice in wheels.

I'm up in the air on running some of these IMCA spherical tie rod setups. (https://www.speedwaymotors.com/IMCA-...mbly,2058.html) The outer ends will be way smaller and allow for some additional clearance as well as bump steer adjustment. As little as the car will be driven, I won't have to worry much about them wearing any faster.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:31 PM
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Well, both headlight motor bushing decided to give up at the same time. Spent some time pulling the assemblies tonight and ordered a kit from TDS. Going to try to freshen everything up and detail a bit while I'm in there. The front end swap on this car is such a shade tree hack job. The car still has the 1990 headlights, and they didn't use the trim rings from the '91/2 either. The passenger side light was only held in with 3 bolts. And while in there I also found a wire ripped out from the passenger side plug. I pulled the connector out and did my best to split the connector open and solder the wire back into place.



I want to freshen up the bolts and repaint some of these brackets. These parts are looking pretty tired.



I decided on brakes too. I sourced some of Stan's brackets from FRRAX, hopefully they should get here soon. They're designed to mount an FSLI Wilwood caliper with a C5 rotor while utilizing all 3 dust shield bolt locations for added strength. Pretty cool design. Picture is not my car but will give you an idea of what the bracket looks like.
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Re: '90 Maui 350 build.

Have to chime in and compliment your progress, your car looks excellent! I baby my gta and yet it still does nothing but give me problems but I keep tugging through, it's nice to see I'm not alone haha. Also a Maui manual formula is one of the coolest third gen combos imo, there was one down the road from me earlier this year that I would have loved to scoop but naturally the seller just never responded to any emails
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Have to chime in and compliment your progress, your car looks excellent! I baby my gta and yet it still does nothing but give me problems but I keep tugging through, it's nice to see I'm not alone haha. Also a Maui manual formula is one of the coolest third gen combos imo, there was one down the road from me earlier this year that I would have loved to scoop but naturally the seller just never responded to any emails
Thanks! It's always one thing after another but sooner or later you look back and realize how much progress you've made.
Got it out again last weekend for a short cruise to a buddies house. The car still has a long way to go to be as mechanically sound as my black Formula was. I've been chasing all kinds of issues from the car and motor having sat as long as they have. So the laundtry list so far:

Found a new antifreeze leak from a heater hose. At least it's minor, just irritating that I just had it drained to fix a different leak.
Headlights are rebuilt now though and work perfectly.
Still need to get the speedo working. Not sure where I went wrong with the SGI, sucks that I mounted it under the console. hahaha!.
Passenger Collector leaks like crazy, so I need to figure that out. The SLP Y pipe has never lined up well and has always given me issues.
Starter needs shimmed.
Trans occasionally pops out of third at inopportune moments.
And the steering has a little slop in it somewhere.
Antenna is broke off, so I get two radio stations intermittently.
Hatch struts are blown.

But I'm getting down to the minor naggy stuff at least.

I received the brake brackets and ordered the hoses and AN fittings, so there will be a Wilwood install here hopefully soon. Oh, and also ordered a new coolant tank.




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Very nice looking revival....
Cosmetically, I would NOT change a thing
well almost.... I prefer the 91-92 rear spoiler more however it is NOT a deal breaker... GREAT WORK my friend
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Thanks! It's always one thing after another but sooner or later you look back and realize how much progress you've made.
Got it out again last weekend for a short cruise to a buddies house. The car still has a long way to go to be as mechanically sound as my black Formula was. I've been chasing all kinds of issues from the car and motor having sat as long as they have. So the laundtry list so far:

Found a new antifreeze leak from a heater hose. At least it's minor, just irritating that I just had it drained to fix a different leak.
Headlights are rebuilt now though and work perfectly.
Still need to get the speedo working. Not sure where I went wrong with the SGI, sucks that I mounted it under the console. hahaha!.
Passenger Collector leaks like crazy, so I need to figure that out. The SLP Y pipe has never lined up well and has always given me issues.
Starter needs shimmed.
Trans occasionally pops out of third at inopportune moments.
And the steering has a little slop in it somewhere.
Antenna is broke off, so I get two radio stations intermittently.
Hatch struts are blown.

But I'm getting down to the minor naggy stuff at least.

I received the brake brackets and ordered the hoses and AN fittings, so there will be a Wilwood install here hopefully soon. Oh, and also ordered a new coolant tank.



At least it's driving and shows excellently, those rims are perfect on Formulas. As droptop said, I prefer the 91-92 spoiler as well but they crack easily and I have yet to find a good aftermarket replacement so I think you're in good shape
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Old 10-05-2018, 05:10 PM
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Took the day off work and spent some time in the garage. New washer tank looks much better, fixed the collector leak, and was able to get the starter shimmed up. I also got some goodies this week.

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nice build soon youll forget the black car in the rear view after some good road time with this I'm liking the Maui Wowie
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Thanks for the kind words guys. I just looked back and can't believe it's been almost two years already.

Just got a few new goodies. Just need rotors and I'll have everything for the brakes. I'm really digging the grey finish on the calipers. Can't wait to get them installed.


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Those are snazzy!!!!!!!
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I now have all the parts for the big brake kit. Ended up grabbing some GMPP C5 rotors, They're actually a Raybestos part. I can't wait to see them on the car.

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