Oregon_B4C

Ive searched and Searched and all i see are old forums about Accel and Scoggin Dickey and SLP runners..its a bummer because id love to get my hand on a nice base and runners and port them and use them..i dont want to do an aftermarket miniram or anything,just would like to stick with the stockish looking tpi setup with a little tweak

thtanner

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Nothing new, but you can come across used sets from time to time.

Edelbrock ended up making the Accel and TPS bases too for several years (same mold) - early Accel units bases were different.

Oregon_B4C

What would the best way to go about finding any of that older stuff? i tried Ebay but nothing..I thought i saw edelbrock wanted like over $700 for the base and another $700 for the runners? thats nuts.

thtanner

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The classifieds section of this site has been helpful, also check out some of the C4 corvette forums as they use similar/the same parts. The parts aren't cheap because they're not easy to come by since they're no longer made, and they're starting to become more desirable as thirdgens become more collectible.

This guy is selling a full ported Street Ram setup. He's a good seller; I bought an expensive piece off of him and he did me right. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...am-intake.html

Oregon_B4C

thanks a lot for the info!

rarebmx

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I don't have any bases but I do have SLP runners as well as Edelbrock runners that I'm probably not going to use. The SLP runners have never been on an engine & still have the original box however the porting has been started & match to a ported plenum I have here.
The Edelbrock runners are used but no porting has been done to those.
You can still buy the Scoggins Dickey base off their website but for Vortec heads only. I think it runs $300+

Oregon_B4C

Oh wow,if you were to sell either runner what would you want for them?

Orr89RocZ

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First tpis still around

Oregon_B4C

Tpis base is discontinued on there website...I'd love to find an aftermarket set of runners for not a ton of money,go buy a base from scoggin dickey and a new set of vortec heads and port everything including the plenum throw a nice cam in with all the other parts I have and hopefully it would rip! I'd love to see 12's in the 1/4 someday and still be very street friendly and be a dependable driver..that's my goal anyway!

Orr89RocZ

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Not tpis

First tpi's setup

thtanner

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a grand for a full setup, not too bad tbh

https://www.firstfuelinjection.com/services.html

Orr89RocZ

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Price out the less flowing edelbrock system and a throttlebody, you'll see its a good deal

Oregon_B4C

Is that a good setup? I'm mean is it as good or better than buying a good flowing base with slp runners? I see it has a throttlebody too,maybe I could send back the BBK 52mm throttle body I just bought

Orr89RocZ

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Depends on what you are building but it will give you the best power in a max tpi effort.

If a simpler build is all you need, finding a used big base and runner setup can save you money and still be enough to get a fresh motor well into 12's with good heads and cam

Oregon_B4C

Yeah I think that's the route I'll go,try to find some runners and a base and get a nice set of heads and a cam..I Know AFR heads would be better than Vortec heads but I wonder if a nice base,runners and plenum all ported with a nice cam and a ported set of vortec heads would get me in the 12's? Thanks for the info I really appreciate it.

Orr89RocZ

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With the right balance of cam and compression and optimized suspension, enough converter and those things, yes it will.

Vortec bases arent great out the box, so try to port it abit if you can. Port opening should match the head but area through port should be opened up some to match the big tube runners

Oregon_B4C

Ok great,thank you for the info!

rarebmx

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Sorry been very busy today at dentist. Before I dig out & shoot pictures & talk pricing let's see which route you're looking at going. I have a CC306 cam, 1.6 CC RR, Vette 113 heads & some performance parts that I've been sitting on but I'm not giving anything away. I'm fair but I paid good $ & did a lot of hunting to come up with tough to find parts.

Street Lethal

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Edit: sucker born everyday I guess...

Oregon_B4C

My plan was putting a nice cam in,heads and base and runners on the car with hopes of running in the 12's someday..

rarebmx

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Ok. Did you see post above?

Oregon_B4C

The cc306 cam seems like a good camshaft with the 1.6 RR would that be a good cam for the tpi? I mean I wonder if I'd have to do computer work for it to run well?

Street Lethal

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lol, why did I bother posting.

Oregon_B4C

What's that suppose to mean? Please don't be rude or act like a "tuff guy" on a forum..I'm here looking for information,I'm new to the whole fuel injection world.Ive had tons of nasty 383 and 406 sbs Motors in la few different vehicles 70 camaro,71 nova 71 chevy short box all running monster carbs..Like I said I'm new to the fuel injection world,I think it would be fun to play around with this little l98 and still keep it a stock looking TPI set up with good flowing parts and run a 12 second 1/4 and still be a dependable turn key toy and not a hacked drag car,so please don't be rude and try insulting me,I'm just here for information.

Oregon_B4C

No sucker,just looking for a good flowing set of runners since I can't seem to find any anywhere..man,lots of "tuff guys" on here,I'm just looking for respectful information that's all,that's what forums are for I thought,information right? Damn

Street Lethal

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You think I am some little kid? I don't act like a tough guy unless I am in your face, on the internet you have to be kidding me so slow your role my friend. As for my words, go buy whatever you need to, I already deleted what I wrote because I wasted my time. This is the wrong section of this website by the way, Power Adder is for Forced Induction; Supercharging, Turbo Charging and Nitrous, not heads, cam and intake.

thtanner

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Why are you so rude?

Oregon_B4C

Actually i could care less who you are,and the last time a "tuff guy" was in my face there were looking for a dentist.I have no reason for slowing my role,I was never rude or acting like a know it all,I really hate that you wasted your time man,I'm just looking for information that's it not trying to help someone find a dentist.

Orr89RocZ

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No to using that cam. Wayyyy to big. Any setup you choose will need some computer tuning

If mass air flow then you might get away with a small 212-218 range duration cam and smaller heads like vortecs. But if vortecs you will want different timing

Oregon_B4C

That's what I thought about the cam being too big,I see lots of good things about the lt4 hotcam,id love to hear a nice little lope,maybe do a custom grind?the car is a 92 l98 rs camaro

Orr89RocZ

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I would like to see something like the lunati voodoo stuff around similar duration or comp xe 218/224 or even xfi if heads are good like afr 180-195

Oregon_B4C

Ok awesome thank you very much for the info,maybe a set of AFR 195s are what I'll get.I had the Dart 215s on my nova and liked them but always wanted to try the AFRs,so here's my chance lol

rarebmx

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The CC306 cam is way to big for street TPI. I bought that cam when I was going to use on a totally different build. If you're going to use TPI your cam isn't going to be anything radical.

Oregon_B4C

I know I'm probably going to search for some runners ,plenum,get a base and some vortecs and port them all and put a cam in that is going to best suite my setup.

rarebmx

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I have the SLP & Edelbrock runners but some say the TPIS runners are better flowing but no way they have better flow #s than my SLP runners. I'll get some pictures & you'll realize the TPIS in no way are going to flow as well as ported SLP runners.

Oregon_B4C

I just wonder what the best "streetable" cam is for a tpi with the best performance and a nice idle some lope would be nice..something that would agree with ported vortecs and runners/plenum/intake..it would be nice to buy piece by piece and throw it all on when I have a 2 week shut down at work every year but...I'd love to run a 12 in the quarter...I'd know it can happen because I've seen it with an lt4 hotcam..12.86 is what the guy ran with a 2800 edge stall

Oregon_B4C

I'd be very interested in buying the SLPs,I'm sure they would bolt up to the Scoggin dickey vortec base with no problems or modding?

rarebmx

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This is the plenum so far, I have to pull the SLP runners out if the box still.

Oregon_B4C

Very nice good job on porting

Aversandi

rarebmx

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you did ask me yesterday about the SLP runners. They are not a huge notable increase. I've has SLP & Edlebrock but think the TPIS is the way to go. I do have a polished plenum laying around that I'd like to test with the TPIS. The Edlebrock intake I'd also like to test.
This TPI debate for making power has been going on forever. I don't believe anything is going to be mind blowing however the TPI intake is one of the coolest looking designs ever. It looks much faster than it actually is. So that is the reason I like the runners, it's really all about the looks. You would be way better off running a modern fuel injection ons sbc if you want to build some power it just won't look nearly as cool!

Aversandi

Drew

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SLP runners in stock form have never been that impressive. They were popular, because they were less than half the price of all the other runners on the market, and some liked the look. Best results with SLPs came from excessive porting. As I understand it, since they can be siamesed, to an extent it can turn runner volume into plenum volume, or act like a somewhat shorter runner. Just bolting them onto a stock plenum and base, does virtually nothing. FWIW

Abubaca

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THESE SLPs flow a little more than stock. They're siamesed 3/4 of the way down.

rarebmx

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those are pretty complex with being cut & fully siamesed then welded back together. You got that right about flow

Abubaca

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Yeah, I can't take credit, as the welding skills are beyond mine, but I DID have the money skills when they came up for sale! ....on my 383, they flow enough to get me to 5500, but the power still drops at about 5000. I have a Superram.....I'm debating what to do.

atapia14

Does anyone know where I can get ahold of some ASM runners? I've searched and can't seem to find any? I'm trying to build a 383 and don't know much, trying to research parts I've seen people use and have success with, saw someone with ASM runners but can't find them?

Dyno Don

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I have a new set for sale

atapia14

How much?

Thirdgen89GTA

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Did you even bother looking at AS&M's website? They are $500 and still sold new. Considering just the runners are halfway to the price of a First TPI setup though, they aren't worth the money unless you are going for a near 100% stock appearing build, or the nostalgia factor.

https://azspeed.com/product-category/intake-manifolds/