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February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** This is a good month with lots of variation... https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...b0b0c322e.jpeg west1nm*****1991 Z28 Convertible https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...fef3060261.jpg z28cop*****1985 IROC https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...e04e12bfb6.jpg 1MeanZ*****1989 GTA https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...ac7e02b887.jpg Grudgehog*****1982 Z28 https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...fc6a102bbb.jpg live4formula*****1989 Formula |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** I think you've got a little typo in west1nm , not west1nn |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** Got it. |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** I cannot track down the profile of Grudgehog to notify him that he's been nominated. |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** I can't either. Appears to have no posting history so not coming up in a search. |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** Thank you for the nomination! I purchased the car in 2010 and was originally a Z28 305TPI with 700R4 auto. Since then, I did the following: LS3 w/ TSP Camshaft (231/236) PRC Springs and CNC Cylinder Heads Stainless Works Headers FAST 102 Intake Manifold and Throttle Body Holley HP EFI Harness and ECU Tick T56 6-speed w/ adjustable Master and Monster Stage 3 Clutch Strange Dana 60 Trac-Loc w/ 4.11 gears C5 Z06 Front Brakes and LS1 Z28 Rear Disc Brakes Koni Adjustable Shocks Eibach Springs Stayfast Cloth top with glass window Spohn Control Arms, Strut Brace, Caster Plates, Torque Arm, SFC's I'm sure there's much more I forgot - thanks again! https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...f44d09fb67.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...3421ab2be6.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...e40e90ed5b.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...33dee09d3a.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...f0de2f092f.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...33a0dec557.jpg |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** Thanks for the nomination. My car is a 1989 Formula 5.0L TPI 5 speed. I believe it is one of 42 made according to reports from Car and Driver Magazine. It has 60,000 original miles and is mostly original except for new paint, Hurst shifter and new headliner. It won second place at the Trans Am Nationals in 2016. |
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Originally Posted by live4formula
(Post 6275765)
Thanks for the nomination. My car is a 1989 Formula 5.0L TPI 5 speed. I believe it is one of 42 made according to reports from Car and Driver Magazine. It has 60,000 original miles and is mostly original except for new paint, Hurst shifter and new headliner. It won second place at the Trans Am Nationals in 2016. I'm seeing 1126 89 Formula's built with the 5 speed / LB9 combo for 1989 in Robert Casey's book. But there is no drive train combo & color breakdown in the book. Nice looking car !! Good Luck |
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** Thanks BizJetTech. The only data I have found is an article in Car and Driver stating less than 50 were built with the 5.0L TPI and 5 speed combo. A guy who claims to have worked in the marketing department for Pontiac says there were 42. If you have anything showing actual production numbers, I would love to see it. I special ordered one with T-tops in 1989, and like an idiot, I sold it in 1994. I have only seen one other one with the 5 speed other than the one I had in 1989 and the one I have today. |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** Some images of Grudgehog - maybe it will sway some votes? https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...b490873cad.jpg At the track https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...23d6c6d660.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...ba2ea739f7.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...91493178ce.jpg |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** Thanks for the Nomination. My 1985 is an L69, 4 whl disc.and 3:73 gear. It has the LS interior. I ordered the car in November 84 the first week ordering was opened. The car was built on Jan 2-4, 85, and was delivered on Jan 11, 85. I initially was going to use it as my daily driver, but it immediatley became a pleasure car, but it was driven on nice days. I drove it to work at rhe GM Norwood Plant on multiple occasions. I had started my own chapter of the United States Camaro Club back in 86, and my IROC participated in the annual Camaro shows, and at the Camaro Street Nationals at the GM Tech Center. I had articles published on it in the Camaro Corral Magazine, and it was on the cover twice. It has been on pace laps on Michigan Intl Speedway and Indianapolis Speedway. The Cincinnati Enquirer did and article on me and the car when the plant was closing. It has brought many years of joy to me, and I have driven, yet miticulously cared for it over the years. I was blessed to be able to be with it from floor pan to shipping as it was built. I even got to start it up first on the line. I know there are nicer IROCs out there, but none of them has shared all the moments that me and my IROC have over the years. I love the No. 30 Bright Blue Metallic paint color and the contrasting LS Interior. Other options include HD Battery, HD Cooling, HD Alternator, Quiet Sound Group, AM/FM casette, Tilt wheel, AC, Rear Window Defroster, T-Tops, Pwr Windows, Locks, and Antenna. The reason it has the Quartz Clock is the guys at the factory hooked it up underneath the console, so the car wouldnt get flagged in Final Assembly and be removed. When I got it home, I removed the console top and cut the 3 in hole for the clock. I just think its a really cool item, and it still works today. I have right at 30000 miles on it to date, and she remains original with all original factory belts and hoses. Thanks for the nomination. So many nice cars on TGO. |
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** Great story z28cop.. and beautiful car! Very nice mix of cars this month. The black Vert is very impressive and well done and the red formula is a very desireable combo. Would like to see the other cars too.. |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** z28cop... that is about the perfect Thirdgen! 5spd, 3.73s, HO, IROC! What else is there to say. Good luck awesome car! |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** Z28cop - your car and it's story (history) is one of my all time favorite TGO IROC's Congrats on being able to keep it in such nice condition all these years.......well done !! Good luck.... |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** Z28Cop - Beautiful car and great story. Reminds me of my own experience ordering my Medium Maui Blue Metallic Trans Am in 1988. I still have it except I'm now up to 50,000 miles. Great job keeping it original and in such great shape. Good luck! |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** Thanks for the nomination. It's flattering to have others think enough of your car to nominate it. We've all spent a lot of time, money, and work on our cars, thanks to all for the support. I've had this GTA since 2010. It's my almost daily driver in the spring, summer and fall. I avoid bad weather, but otherwise it's driven. Been on 2 power tours and various road trips. Car has been bulletproof reliable, but I've spent a lot of time addressing the details to make it that way. The goal was stock reliability and behavior, with more modern levels of power. You can't tell this from a stock manual trans thirdgen until you get on the throttle hard, then there's no doubt it's been tampered with! I'll just hit the high spots here on mods because you all don't want to read a book I'm sure. If there are other questions about the car, post up or PM me. By the way, this car is currently for sale! Body is stock with 90% original paint and a replacement Hawk's spoiler Engine is a 383 with SCAT rotating assembly, ProFiler heads, SuperRam intake and a custom tune by me. Dyno Don headers and custom dual cat 3.5" single exhaust. (car is almost as quiet as stock) Trans is a '93 T56 Rear is a stock 9bolt with 3.27 ratio Suspension is full bolt on from J&M with Global west Del-a-lum bushings in the front and Koni Yellows all around. Stock springs cut half coil at all corners as well. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...27e0f1281c.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...73c07e0987.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...5badd5d3be.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...cbeebbab27.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...71eca2591e.jpg |
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** That is a very nice GTA. Under the hood looks awesome, I bet its a blast with that t56! |
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Originally Posted by IROCThe5.7L
(Post 6276405)
Very nice. You got my vote! I can't see it very well in this picture. Is that a 315 rear tire? |
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Originally Posted by west1nm
(Post 6276409)
Thanks IROCThe5.7L - all nice cars here (and much more on TGO) would make it very difficult to vote! But yes, it’s 315 Nitto’s on the rear. |
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Originally Posted by BizJetTech
(Post 6276411)
Are those C4 corvette wheels? with spacers? |
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Originally Posted by west1nm
(Post 6276418)
Yes, C4 ZR1 wheels and 1/4” spacer on the rear. Can’t recall spacer size on the front, but believe it required slightly thicker. |
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Originally Posted by BizJetTech
(Post 6276419)
10" wide rears ?? How wide fronts? I'd like to get a set of these wheels, I thought they'd require a bigger spacer - thanks! |
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Originally Posted by west1nm
(Post 6276426)
It’s been quite some time, but pretty confident they are 10” or 10.5” rears. Front are 9.5” with 275 Nitto’s. |
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Originally Posted by BizJetTech
(Post 6276432)
Thanks - and good luck with the car, it looks awesome! |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** My copy of Robert Casey's book arrived today and it shows 1126 Formulas were built with the MK6 manual transmission, but it does not specify how many of those were mated to the LB9 5.0L TPI engine. I would still argue the 42 number is accurate. |
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Originally Posted by live4formula
(Post 6276471)
My copy of Robert Casey's book arrived today and it shows 1126 Formulas were built with the MK6 manual transmission, but it does not specify how many of those were mated to the LB9 5.0L TPI engine. I would still argue the 42 number is accurate. |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** I normally have a strong Firebird bias, but I had to vote for Z28cop. Beautiful car! |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** 1126 is still low production! |
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Originally Posted by live4formula
(Post 6276471)
My copy of Robert Casey's book arrived today and it shows 1126 Formulas were built with the MK6 manual transmission, but it does not specify how many of those were mated to the LB9 5.0L TPI engine. I would still argue the 42 number is accurate. All MK6 trans' were mated to LB9s. |
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Originally Posted by chazman
(Post 6276549)
All MK6 trans' were mated to LB9s. |
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Originally Posted by BizJetTech
(Post 6276550)
The MK6 was for the LB9 & the M39 was for the L03 - was there any difference in these transmissions other then gear ratio's ?? None that I know of other that the 5th gear ratio. The steeper MK6 5th gear when combined with a 3.45/3.42 rear, could be used on high speed tracks more effectively. .73 vs .63 ratios. An M39 would also be mated to usually a non-G92 LB9. But 5th gear and 3.08 rear is more of a highway cruising gear. My black G92 hardtop has a MK6 and my white non-G92 convertible has an M39. |
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Originally Posted by chazman
(Post 6276551)
None that I know of other that the 5th gear ratio. The steeper MK6 5th gear when combined with a 3.45/3.42 rear, could be used on high speed tracks more effectively. .73 vs .63 ratios. An M39 would also be mated to usually a non-G92 LB9. But 5th gear and 3.08 rear is more of a highway cruising gear. My black G92 hardtop has a MK6 and my white non-G92 convertible has an M39. all nice cars once again |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** z28cop, did you help build your car that day or did you take the day off to walk it down the assembly line? |
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Originally Posted by CarGuyDennis
(Post 6276038)
Some images of Grudgehog - maybe it will sway some votes? |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** I stand corrected and now I know the real story. The Car and Driver article in March 1990 refers to the 5.0L TPI/ 5 speed with the LE2 suspension package. Thanks for clarifying the numbers. I am a little disappointed that there are 1126, but it is still fun to drive!! |
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Originally Posted by live4formula
(Post 6276684)
I stand corrected and now I know the real story. The Car and Driver article in March 1990 refers to the 5.0L TPI/ 5 speed with the LE2 suspension package. Thanks for clarifying the numbers. I am a little disappointed that there are 1126, but it is still fun to drive!! |
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Originally Posted by live4formula
(Post 6275770)
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** All of the cars are super awesome this month! This was the hardest COTM vote I've ever done. |
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Originally Posted by 86TA355SR
(Post 6276761)
I saw both of these cars at Trans Am Nationals, the Formula at the show and the white GTA, though with stock wheels, at the TIpp City Cruise, several years ago. Both cars are awesome and great examples of 3rd Gens. Bravo gentlemen, well done! |
Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread** These are all beautiful cars. Good luck guys. |
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Originally Posted by Richardman1992
(Post 6276669)
z28cop, did you help build your car that day or did you take the day off to walk it down the assembly line? |
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