Whhch would you do first? So guys I'm in the process of restoring my 87 z28. Paint is dull and desperately needed, interior carpet and seats need to be redone as well as some of the trim replaced, I'm faced with the choice to either tackle the interior first or repaint the car, which is currently white would be repainting white. If given the opportunity and both were needed which would you do first and why? |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Hi there, If it were me, I would work on the interior first, only because I have more experience doing interiors, and can do a lot of the work myself. A good paint jobs needs a lot of money, so start saving up towards that. That's what slowed me down for the last 4 years... no funds. Everyone has their own priorities. |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by ktthecarguy
(Post 5528636)
Hi there, If it were me, I would work on the interior first, only because I have more experience doing interiors, and can do a lot of the work myself. A good paint jobs needs a lot of money, so start saving up towards that. That's what slowed me down for the last 4 years... no funds. Everyone has their own priorities. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? I would do the paint. I end up pulling the interior on a project before paint/body work. This keeps it cleaner. Do you want body filler dust on your new interior? How about accidental over spray on the door panels and seals? I suggest pulling most of the interior except for the two front seats. Then after paint, you can install your new, nice and clean interior. Oh yeah, for a nice touch, remove the black seal around the windshield before painting. Makes for a cleaner job and replace it with the 91-92 wider trim. :2cents: |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by bluegrassz
(Post 5528658)
I would do the paint. I end up pulling the interior on a project before paint/body work. This keeps it cleaner. Do you want body filler dust on your new interior? How about accidental over spray on the door panels and seals? I suggest pulling most of the interior except for the two front seats. Then after paint, you can install your new, nice and clean interior. Oh yeah, for a nice touch, remove the black seal around the windshield before painting. Makes for a cleaner job and replace it with the 91-92 wider trim. :2cents: |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by ktthecarguy
(Post 5528636)
Hi there, If it were me, I would work on the interior first, only because I have more experience doing interiors, and can do a lot of the work myself. A good paint jobs needs a lot of money, so start saving up towards that. That's what slowed me down for the last 4 years... no funds. Everyone has their own priorities. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? To paint one correctly you need to pull as much off the car as possible. Things to remove: Side mirrors, locks and door handles, window sweeps / Door panels have to be removed. Tail Lights / Rear plastic has to be removed. Not too big of a list to have clean edges. You can still drive your car without the carpet, plastics and rear seats. Even the console and dash pad can be removed and still be functional. I don't think the factory installs the interior before the paint the body. |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by lonestar7
(Post 5528705)
I think I would also do the interior first as long as your not painting the inside of the doors and door frames. If you get tired of the interior work , you can do a little exterior paint prep work along the way. Most materials for the prep are not expensive, just a lot of time and work to get it right. Get the interior done, paint prep done, then you can shoot the paint and your done. Almost like having a like new car. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? This is all a matter of opinion and priority. I'm getting paint done first, for the reasons mentioned by Bluegrass. Do you really want someone else in and out of your car, moving it around in the shop after sinking a good chunk of money into your interior? Dust, overspray. Not for me. As far as paint goes, check for stress cracks by the roofline in rear corner of window opening. Most 3Gs have them. Especially coupes. SFCs before fixing them if so. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Agree with blugrass, when I painted mine, all the interior came out, weatherstripping , etc. If you plan to change colors this is the only way to go. I took mine down to a bare metal shell. Once paint, and wet sanding/buffing is done, you can install your new interior. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Good input guys, car will stay factory white color, for those of you who have changed out the weatherstripping while painting the car, what does the cost of new weatherstripping look like in regards of replacing everything ttops door etc, and do they sell whole weatherstripping kits |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Javier87z28
(Post 5528726)
Good input guys, car will stay factory white color, for those of you who have changed out the weatherstripping while painting the car, what does the cost of new weatherstripping look like in regards of replacing everything ttops door etc, and do they sell whole weatherstripping kits |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Joe Tag
(Post 5528730)
About 400 bux for a complete set of T-top weatherstrip set. Close to 300 for coupe. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Complete set, even the pieces that go to the triangle parts in front of the glass, window wipes, hood to cowl, deck lid,doors, body around doors, hatch. Got mine from lonestar on ebay. Go with soffseal brand. Some things you just don't want to skimp on, this being one of them. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Check out year one, classic industries or any other big name in redtoration. Heck I got my door weatherstrips through auto zone. |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Joe Tag
(Post 5528739)
Complete set, even the pieces that go to the triangle parts in front of the glass, window wipes, hood to cowl, deck lid,doors, body around doors, hatch. Got mine from lonestar on ebay. Go with soffseal brand. Some things you just don't want to skimp on, this being one of them. |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Javier87z28
(Post 5528745)
Thats not too bad a price for the whole set, how did you like the ones you got? Did they install fairly easy on your car? Read up extensively before buying and nothing but good about Soffseal on here. I'll let you know in 2 weeks as my paint guy says it'll be done then. Which in a realistic timeline means one month :lmao: |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
(Post 5528744)
Check out year one, classic industries or any other big name in redtoration. Heck I got my door weatherstrips through auto zone. Yeah that was my intention im guessing they sell whole sets as well |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Yeah do the paint and body work first, like said not matter how much you try dust and crap will get in the car during the body work and paint process. |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Javier87z28
(Post 5528752)
Autozone weatherstripping still holding up? lol Yeah that was my intention im guessing they sell whole sets as well |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
(Post 5528882)
Yes, held up well. It was Metco brand. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? http://www.camarocentral.com/1982_19..._p/wea-182.htm Can anyone confirm this is the entire set, and hs anyone bought weatherstripping from this company before? |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Looks good to me. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? No hood to cowl seal. Not one of the most important pieces though. Other than that, it's complete. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? LOL I came across the same problem.. interior or paint and body work..??? So I chose interior. First I cleaned up the carpet, got it smelling great! Installed my new dash pad, stereo, and my new seats (new to me, I got them out of a 2001 Trans Am). Got all my gauges working right and made my car as dependable as it can be for a 24 year old car. The only thing I'm waiting to install is the head liner (I dont want it damaged when I go to do the paint, switching from GM dark red to Cyanne Red Nissan).. From the outside my car is faded red, black and primer. But on the inside, its as fresh as the day it left Van Nuys.. Stone |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Joe Tag
(Post 5528955)
No hood to cowl seal. Not one of the most important pieces though. Other than that, it's complete. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? plus I see the interior more than the exterior.. lol stone |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Stonehenge
(Post 5528979)
plus I see the interior more than the exterior.. lol stone |
Re: Whhch would you do first? I would say the body...I make jeep wranglers. .we paint them then put the inside in...I dont want nice new seats then someone from the body shop ( sweating and dirty ) seating in my new seats...maybe leaves a screw driver in there back pocket ....seen it happen. .. Take a look at my profile...my pics of my 87 are on it... |
Re: Whhch would you do first? My car is having bodywork as we speak,do the interior LAST,I restored my entire interior 1st and what a big mistake I made.You can't imagine how much dust you get inside while their working on your car with the windows SHUT.I'm probably going to be cleaning dust out of all the nooks and crannies for awhile.It's very depressing to see all the hard work you did look like $#!t but they are going to detail it before I get it back. |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by BigKeg
(Post 5529014)
I would say the body...I make jeep wranglers. .we paint them then put the inside in...I dont want nice new seats then someone from the body shop ( sweating and dirty ) seating in my new seats...maybe leaves a screw driver in there back pocket ....seen it happen. .. Take a look at my profile...my pics of my 87 are on it... Manta good to get a perspective from someone who has done it, im pulling more towards the body work/paint |
Re: Whhch would you do first? I decided to paint the exterior first on my car because I can then drive it down the road and not be embarrassed. :lol: I pretty much already have everything to completely restore my interior. It's just a matter of putting it all in now. |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by carlos64030
(Post 5529038)
I decided to paint the exterior first on my car because I can then drive it down the road and not be embarrassed. :lol: I pretty much already have everything to completely restore my interior. It's just a matter of putting it all in now. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? My car hasn't been painted " yet" ...its still in primer...the pics of it being shiny black are before pics...the first pics you see of it..is how it is now ...the plan is to paint it flat/satin black...and the ground F/X sprayed with lineX ...then have red grand sport strips painted on....inside the red strips I'll have skulls airbrushed. .. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Here's the way I look at it. It depends completely on how far you are going to take apart your car to paint it. If you want any kind of descent paint, you are going to have to remove the gfx, mirrors, spoilers, weatherstrip, etc. In order to do that you will have to remove the door panels and all the interior plastics. Why do the interior first if you are just going to have to take it all back out to paint it? I just painted my car last year and went through the same thing only I decided to replace the major interior stuff before putting all the plastics back in. Do yourself a favor and buy a weatherstripping kit and carpet set. Those are the two biggest pain in the buns to replace, so do it as soon as it's painted and everything is apart. Then you can do all the easy stuff later like the headliner, dashpad, door panels, seats, etc.... Those things all come out easily and you can do them basically anytime. If you are going to do a quickie paint job without removing much, then you won't have to remove the plastics and door panels. It's up to you. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Carlos- Car came out very nice, good thing you noticed the moldings lol did you put new weather stripping in, if so what did you go with? Coolwheels-im looking at weatherstripping kits right now any you would recommend? |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Javier87z28
(Post 5529077)
Carlos- Car came out very nice, good thing you noticed the moldings lol did you put new weather stripping in, if so what did you go with? Coolwheels-im looking at weatherstripping kits right now any you would recommend? |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by carlos64030
(Post 5529462)
Thank you! I scored some brand new OEM weather stripping in a sealed box off of eBay back in 2011. I saved it until it was time for the paint job. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? http://www.camarocentral.com/1982_19..._p/wea-182.htm So guys I think ive decided on this kit and will be getting the hood to cowl weatherstrip apart from them for $20, although on the kit it says you can upgrade the door rubbers to have steel ends on them for an additional $30 how would this help? |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by Javier87z28
(Post 5528548)
So guys I'm in the process of restoring my 87 z28. Paint is dull and desperately needed, interior carpet and seats need to be redone as well as some of the trim replaced, I'm faced with the choice to either tackle the interior first or repaint the car, which is currently white would be repainting white. If given the opportunity and both were needed which would you do first and why? |
Re: Whhch would you do first? yeah I'd say pull out the interior, cover what you can and repaint the car. once you're done and its all fine and dry, put in new carpets,etc. its gonna have that new car smell, I replaced carpet in my car recently |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Yeah ive decided to do the body work and paint it and i will buy the interior things in the process and have my seats redone while i paint it, thanks for your input guys |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Unless you are going to make it into a race car, it makes no sense to do any restoration on a thirdgen until you fix ALL the water leaks. |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by W.E.G.
(Post 5531181)
Unless you are going to make it into a race car, it makes no sense to do any restoration on a thirdgen until you fix ALL the water leaks. |
Re: Whhch would you do first? around the windshield, firewall, cowl, etc |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by W.E.G.
(Post 5531219)
around the windshield, firewall, cowl, etc |
Re: Whhch would you do first? Make sure your cowl drains freely from both sides, or you WILL have a rusted firewall. |
Re: Whhch would you do first?
Originally Posted by W.E.G.
(Post 5531252)
Make sure your cowl drains freely from both sides, or you WILL have a rusted firewall. |
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