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crazyjim 03-12-2006 02:38 PM

Which brake kits keep stock offset and BS?
 
Just wondering if we could start a thread listing which brake kits keep the stock offset for the wheels. I don't want to have to buy new wheels because mine are sticking outside the fender wells.

MikeH 03-12-2006 03:06 PM

I was just thinking the same thing. I would like to upgrade the fronts. But it looks like they all push the wheels out.


Mike

crazyjim 03-14-2006 12:19 AM

bump

ebmiller88 03-14-2006 06:07 AM

Essentially every kit that "we" do on here will push the wheels out .300" per side (.600" per side for the HDs as designed currently). If you put the rear wheels (which have more BS) on the front, this added offset goes away. This move would also allow you to run 4 rear wheels on all 4 corners, making tire rotation much easier, so I recommend running all 4 rear wheels.

But think about it: .300" is only slightly thicker than 1/4". Get a ruler and look at how much that is...not enough to make a difference IMO so either way you're OK, you'll hardly see it.

Ed

MikeH 03-14-2006 06:12 AM

I have an extra set of rears, and i was just wondering last night, if running them up front would work.

So the difference is about a 1/4 inch in offset?

railroad 03-14-2006 10:39 AM

some can be 5/8" or even slightly greater depending on what hub you use and what rotor (rotor mount surface thickness). If you are going to race the car at all (autocross, etc/ drag not an issue) then definately go to 1LE hubs with the larger wheelbearings.

Using small wheelbearings and roadracing can result in burning up the wheelbearing and even loosing a wheel. Here's a 4th gen that suffered this problem last weekend a Calif spwy even with larger wheelbearings- lost a wheel entirely due to a wheelbearing failure.
4th gens run more negative offset wheels and thus have more uneven loadson the wheel bearings under cornering (this is bad) but better for staight driving (daily cruising without corner load is good). Third gens are different, we have zero offset fronts factory.

Putting larger brake setups and then combining that with wider positive offset rims (like useing 4th gen rims will put a much greater load especially on the inside wheel bearing under hard cornering so I would definately recommend using a larger bearing 1LE hub.

ebmiller88 03-14-2006 10:53 AM

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4th gens use a bolt on, sealed bearing hub, nothing like what our third gens use. Theirs look like the one pictured below. I agree, run the hub with larger bearings if you can fit it. If not, you are limited to stock size bearings. Running a rear wheel up front will not cause you any problems, they don't have as much offset as a set of 4th gen wheels do.

Ed

crazyjim 03-14-2006 12:51 PM


Originally posted by ebmiller88
Essentially every kit that "we" do on here will push the wheels out .300" per side (.600" per side for the HDs as designed currently). If you put the rear wheels (which have more BS) on the front, this added offset goes away. This move would also allow you to run 4 rear wheels on all 4 corners, making tire rotation much easier, so I recommend running all 4 rear wheels.

But think about it: .300" is only slightly thicker than 1/4". Get a ruler and look at how much that is...not enough to make a difference IMO so either way you're OK, you'll hardly see it.

Ed


Ok yea that was my question... The reason I ask is because I'm actually buying custom wheels, 18" ers. Apparently they're the perfect offset for third gens 18x9 fronts 18x10 rears.


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