Dual calipers..... With all the brake upgrades going on, has anyone ever tried to fab up a rear backing plate, that can hold 2 calipers? Double the clamping force....Wonder how fast a car could stop, equipped that way? :eek: |
Re: Dual calipers..... Dont know about the rear. On the ZR1 Corvette a company called A/O Enginering made a dual caliper for the front. I have to look for the pic. |
Re: Dual calipers.....
Originally Posted by Stephen
(Post 3892706)
Double the clamping force....Wonder how fast a car could stop, equipped that way? :eek: |
Re: Dual calipers..... i dont know anything about brakes but i would think you would need a bigger master cylinder/ brake booster if you were be doubling the amount of calipers??? |
Re: Dual calipers..... http://www.ong-inc.com/temp/performance1.jpg http://www.ong-inc.com/temp/Rear1.jpg http://www.ong-inc.com/temp/Rear4.jpg I have to look for the front ones... |
Re: Dual calipers..... The pics with the red calipers. What they did in that pic is use the larger caliper for braking. However that caliper has no ebrake so the smaller stock style caliper is there for e brake use only. Some lamborghinis, porsches, ferraris are like that on the rears. |
Re: Dual calipers..... Logically what are the gains? I agree with sailtexas in the fact that once your wheels lock up it doesn't matter how many calipers you have. If you can get the job done with one then why bother? spend money on more beneficial mods in my opinion.. |
Re: Dual calipers.....
Originally Posted by Firebird90
(Post 3893632)
http://www.ong-inc.com/temp/Rear1.jpg I have to look for the front ones... The 3rd pic appears to show the exhaust pipeor a cooling duct. http://www.ong-inc.com/temp/Rear4.jpg |
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Re: Dual calipers..... Well, that site requires signing up just to see the pic. I don't wanna go through all to see 1 pic. But at least I know its been done & not totally stupid. Just seems more logical to have equally distributed clamping force, rather than just on one side of the rotor, and you get double the friction area. ----------
Originally Posted by camaro430sut
(Post 3893737)
The pics with the red calipers. What they did in that pic is use the larger caliper for braking. However that caliper has no ebrake so the smaller stock style caliper is there for e brake use only. Some lamborghinis, porsches, ferraris are like that on the rears. |
Re: Dual calipers..... Those pics wit the red caliper are from a C4 vette if im not mistaken. They are the rears, what looks like a steering knuckle and rod end is part of the vettes IRS. Neat idea to have what looks to be a 4 piston caliper but Ive gotta say my LS1 rears do just fine. Id think something that big would be locking up pretty easily. |
Re: Dual calipers..... Maybe duals on the front only then? I just figure...More friction stopping = better stopping. Eve if the dual calipers got half the pressure (1 line serving 2 calipers) it seems like the surface would stop better. |
Re: Dual calipers..... i am still thinking of upgrading the rotors and then geting the dual piston calipers. that will help with the stopping power. and since there are so many bolt on kits you wouldnt even have to modify anything. |
Re: Dual calipers.....
Originally Posted by theimpaler68
(Post 3894118)
i am still thinking of upgrading the rotors and then geting the dual piston calipers. that will help with the stopping power. and since there are so many bolt on kits you wouldnt even have to modify anything. A dual caliper system would only require a new backing/mounting plate, a 'T' connection (if you simply split the pressure into 2 calipers). |
Re: Dual calipers..... Unless you upgrade the rest of the system (mainly MC and/or pedal arm) to create more fluid flow through the system you're not going to gain any more actual clamping force. I would think having two calipers on one rotor would cause cooling issues (especially on a stock or near stock sized braking system.) At least on an agressively driven or tracked car. A street car may never have that issue though. |
Re: Dual calipers..... i thought that they had the kits that still fit under the 16" wheels? i maybe mistaken though. |
Re: Dual calipers.....
Originally Posted by theimpaler68
(Post 3894136)
i thought that they had the kits that still fit under the 16" wheels? i maybe mistaken though. "The LS1 brake kit will fit all stock style f-body 16" wheels, except for the TransAm/Firebird crosslace wheel. To use this wheel, minor clearancing or the use of a wheel spacer will be necessary. " And with 16", that's the biggest you can go. I can't decide if I wanna get the biggest that will fit my crosslace wheels (but still look small in my Snypers) or get bigger ones & just sell my gold crosslaces) ----------
Originally Posted by iansane
(Post 3894133)
I would think having two calipers on one rotor would cause cooling issues (especially on a stock or near stock sized braking system.) At least on an agressively driven or tracked car. A street car may never have that issue though. Maybe with these that could be combated. |
Re: Dual calipers.....
Originally Posted by Stephen
(Post 3894130)
A dual caliper system would only require a new backing/mounting plate, a 'T' connection (if you simply split the pressure into 2 calipers). Food for thought. |
Re: Dual calipers..... I'd think it wouldn't be worth the increase in unsprung weight. |
Re: Dual calipers.....
Originally Posted by Apeiron
(Post 3896085)
I'd think it wouldn't be worth the increase in unsprung weight. |
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