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LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92 Just wanted to share a few things. Its been a while since I have messed with the car but some years ago I installed LS rear brakes on it. Well I finally decided to install the e brake cable and while looking around the forums for information regarding the cables I found very conflicting and convoluted answers, a million different part numbers and 100 ways to do the same thing. Some members bought multiple cables to get some that fit. Most of the guides I found were for the older manual style brakes as well. I already had the original LS cables that came with my brakes so I used them. They are proper length and worked good with some modification as other mentioned. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...149c75f89f.jpg I cut 9 3/4 inches of the casing off with a cut off wheel, cut the old stopper off and removed the material from the end, and as you can see was able to reuse the old end clip. I just cleaned it out, saved the rubber piece from the inside, stuck it back into the end and reinstalled. Light crimp and it was good. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...12fee4522b.jpg I picked up some cable ferrule at tractor supply and crimped them on the end. These were 2.09 and fit perfect through the T connector on the car. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...d9599470ef.jpg Due to the nature of the cable "emergency brake" I tossed a quick tac weld on the end. I intentionally left out some of the cable to do so. This way if the crimp fails due to a hard pull, it can't pull through. Now for the part that I couldn't seem to find anywhere, and quite literally the only thing I didn't know about a 90-92 third gen. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...edfef0374a.jpg The Blue arrow points to a release on the Ebrake itself. I was not able to get my cables to fit, THIS WAS WHY. Once you disconnect the auto adjustment tension spring (yellow), then hit the release the cable can be pulled out. This gave me enough slack to connect the T connector under the car. The cables then fit perfect https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...959161c85f.jpg . The moral of the story... 90-92 lever needs to be released to install or remove the e-brake cable properly. Once reinstalled it will self adjust with a couple pulls. Easy ls1 cable install. Should take a novice with some tools less than an hour. Total cost $2.09 if you already have the cables. Disclaimer: This was not meant to be a guide, just clarification for 90-92 adjustment with ls1 rear brakes. |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92 Hey nice write up! I like the LS1 brakes and have them on the back of my 69 Bird - they are a simple straightforward way to have a real parking brake. What wheels are you running 16" or bigger or were you able to clearance the caliper to fit 15" ? |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92
Originally Posted by zman1969
(Post 6320884)
Hey nice write up! I like the LS1 brakes and have them on the back of my 69 Bird - they are a simple straightforward way to have a real parking brake. What wheels are you running 16" or bigger or were you able to clearance the caliper to fit 15" ? |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92 I have a 90 Camaro and I did the LS1 rear swap with disk brakes. I bought the rear parking brake cable from Hawks that are for our LS swaps. The parking brake holds as it should but doesn’t disengage when I pull the enrage handle back down. My thoughts are that the front cable from the lever handle to the tee is bad or seized. Does this sound right? Problem is I can’t find a front cable anywhere. |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92
Originally Posted by rkdz28
(Post 6492317)
I have a 90 Camaro and I did the LS1 rear swap with disk brakes. I bought the rear parking brake cable from Hawks that are for our LS swaps. The parking brake holds as it should but doesn’t disengage when I pull the enrage handle back down. My thoughts are that the front cable from the lever handle to the tee is bad or seized. Does this sound right? Problem is I can’t find a front cable anywhere. From what i have seen / recall in other threads, the cables HAWKS sells do not have the return springs that are integrated into the brake cable (the coil part on the end that attached to the parking brake lever at the discs) I havent see nwhat people have done to correct this issue yet though. . |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92
Originally Posted by 92rs85berlintta
(Post 6320792)
Just wanted to share a few things. Its been a while since I have messed with the car but some years ago I installed LS rear brakes on it. Well I finally decided to install the e brake cable and while looking around the forums for information regarding the cables I found very conflicting and convoluted answers, a million different part numbers and 100 ways to do the same thing. Some members bought multiple cables to get some that fit. Most of the guides I found were for the older manual style brakes as well. I already had the original LS cables that came with my brakes so I used them. They are proper length and worked good with some modification as other mentioned. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...149c75f89f.jpg I cut 9 3/4 inches of the casing off with a cut off wheel, cut the old stopper off and removed the material from the end, and as you can see was able to reuse the old end clip. I just cleaned it out, saved the rubber piece from the inside, stuck it back into the end and reinstalled. Light crimp and it was good. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...12fee4522b.jpg I picked up some cable ferrule at tractor supply and crimped them on the end. These were 2.09 and fit perfect through the T connector on the car. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...d9599470ef.jpg Due to the nature of the cable "emergency brake" I tossed a quick tac weld on the end. I intentionally left out some of the cable to do so. This way if the crimp fails due to a hard pull, it can't pull through. Now for the part that I couldn't seem to find anywhere, and quite literally the only thing I didn't know about a 90-92 third gen. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...edfef0374a.jpg The Blue arrow points to a release on the Ebrake itself. I was not able to get my cables to fit, THIS WAS WHY. Once you disconnect the auto adjustment tension spring (yellow), then hit the release the cable can be pulled out. This gave me enough slack to connect the T connector under the car. The cables then fit perfect https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...959161c85f.jpg . The moral of the story... 90-92 lever needs to be released to install or remove the e-brake cable properly. Once reinstalled it will self adjust with a couple pulls. Easy ls1 cable install. Should take a novice with some tools less than an hour. Total cost $2.09 if you already have the cables. Disclaimer: This was not meant to be a guide, just clarification for 90-92 adjustment with ls1 rear brakes. |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92 Is there something different with 92 cars? I have a 92 RS with 4th Gen Rear out of 02 Z28. I've tried cables designated for a 92 PBR brakes and the Hawks rear swap cables. The Hawks cables are a few inches longer but neither cable is long enough to any sort of stock routing. Maybe I'm missing something here...Any ideas |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92
Originally Posted by badtenant
(Post 6494793)
Is there something different with 92 cars? I have a 92 RS with 4th Gen Rear out of 02 Z28. I've tried cables designated for a 92 PBR brakes and the Hawks rear swap cables. The Hawks cables are a few inches longer but neither cable is long enough to any sort of stock routing. Maybe I'm missing something here...Any ideas |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92
Originally Posted by thatsupnow
(Post 6494913)
I have the hawks cables and they went into the stock location. Into the eyelet on the control arm, over axle and into the lower tunnel eyelet, then up into that little slot in the upper tunnel then into the T bracket. But I think the cable that attaches to the handle in the car is a bit stretched or I need to adjust the shoes manually. I'm not sure how to adjust from the handle Do the hawks have the return springs on the brake side of the cable? From what ive seen / heard, they don;t include any type of return spring |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92
Originally Posted by 1989karr
(Post 6494956)
Do the hawks have the return springs on the brake side of the cable? From what ive seen / heard, they don;t include any type of return spring |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92
Originally Posted by thatsupnow
(Post 6494966)
No there's no springs on the cables. They fit perfectly but I haven't figured out how to adjust the cables at the handle so they are there mostly for looks right meow I saw a few threads, apaprently the 90-92 cars have a self adjusting mecanism on the handle. There's a thread or two regarding how to adjust it properly. I think AS few people even went and got an older assembly that had the manual adjustments that are under the car though. |
Re: LS1 rear brakes and emergency brake cables 90-92
Originally Posted by 1989karr
(Post 6494983)
I saw a few threads, apaprently the 90-92 cars have a self adjusting mecanism on the handle. There's a thread or two regarding how to adjust it properly. I think AS few people even went and got an older assembly that had the manual adjustments that are under the car though. |
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