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TylerSteez 07-18-2016 07:34 PM

is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
Hey guys, I just fixed my rotting floor pans. I found out that they rotted because the P.O fed his subwoofer wire from the battery through a hole in the firewall that normally had a plug in it. I saw the water trickle down directly to the spot that I just put fresh metal in. While I was under there I saw some questionable wiring that I'm wondering if it is even original or was it all part of his sound system.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...34d61c947a.jpg

is the white connector, red and blue inline fuses, and little red connector original or part of a sound system set up?


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...b9af0d04d3.jpg

these relays say apex so I'm assuming they were for a sound system but would like to double check, they have two blue wires that run into the part in the next pic.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...5343f0736f.jpg

here's where the apex relays wire into, this is directly behind the driver's side kick panel. what is this?

92RS_Ttop 07-18-2016 08:14 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
While I have no idea what is bolted behind your kick panel, I can say for sure that none of the rest is original.

TylerSteez 07-18-2016 08:22 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 

Originally Posted by 92RS_Ttop (Post 6060483)
While I have no idea what is bolted behind your kick panel, I can say for sure that none of the rest is original.

thanks, that cleared up the birds nest of wires I want to get rid of but now I am unsure of what to do with the part behind the kick panel since those relays are wired to the part. I feel like that part is original but I could be wrong.

84 1LE 07-18-2016 08:31 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
Last pic looks like the power doorlock relays, I may be wrong.

TylerSteez 07-18-2016 08:34 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 

Originally Posted by 84 1LE (Post 6060489)
Last pic looks like the power doorlock relays, I may be wrong.

its possible since I do have power locks,

84 1LE 07-18-2016 08:40 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
Disconnect them & verify it.

TylerSteez 07-18-2016 08:47 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 

Originally Posted by 84 1LE (Post 6060495)
Disconnect them & verify it.

Will do tomorrow after work, also read that it could be a starter enable relay but I've always read that these cars don't have a starter relay

84 1LE 07-18-2016 08:50 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
Sounds like a vats thing, Possible.

TylerSteez 07-18-2016 08:52 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 

Originally Posted by 84 1LE (Post 6060502)
Sounds like a vats thing, Possible.

It's an 86, I thought vats didn't come around till later years

84 1LE 07-18-2016 08:55 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
Correct, I just didn't look at your avatar.

thtanner 07-18-2016 10:35 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
I pulled a dealer installed alarm out of my 89 that had a similar connector and pair of relays taped together in that same fashion (same brand, too...).

mantaguy 07-19-2016 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 84 1LE (Post 6060489)
Last pic looks like the power doorlock relays, I may be wrong.

:yup: Figure D;)

Attachment 318807

TylerSteez 07-19-2016 08:09 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 

Originally Posted by thtanner (Post 6060531)
I pulled a dealer installed alarm out of my 89 that had a similar connector and pair of relays taped together in that same fashion (same brand, too...).

This would make sense because this car did have an alarm system in it, pretty sure the manual said "viper system" on it but it never worked so I removed the alarm siren thing

TylerSteez 07-19-2016 08:11 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 

Originally Posted by mantaguy (Post 6060835)

Wow that settles it then, thank you for the pic. I'm guessing that the door lock relay is wired into the two apex relays which are for the alarm system then.

mantaguy 07-19-2016 08:19 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
Possibly, those two Blue wires look like they don't belong there.

mantaguy 07-19-2016 08:30 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
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Here's some info for testing. You should invest in one of these manuals! it's specifically for 86 Firebirds.:thumbsup:
Attachment 318806

thtanner 07-19-2016 08:53 PM

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Look familiar?

Connector is in the center. That's all the crap I pulled out!

Attachment 460089

TylerSteez 07-19-2016 09:54 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 

Originally Posted by thtanner (Post 6060858)
Look familiar?

Connector is in the center. That's all the crap I pulled out!

https://i.imgur.com/9XN5icG.jpg

Yep all the wires look exact, I'm assuming they removed the actual system and just left the harness in the car. Going to tackle that next once I fix my passenger floor pan

84 1LE 07-19-2016 09:56 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
He was probably using the alarm to unlock the doors.Hence, the blue wires to the DL relays.

TylerSteez 07-19-2016 09:56 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 

Originally Posted by mantaguy (Post 6060847)
Here's some info for testing. You should invest in one of these manuals! it's specifically for 86 Firebirds.:thumbsup:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...psx6envpmp.jpg

Wow thanks again, I'll have to add that to the long list of things I need for the car lol, any way you could link me one or give me the exact name of the book?

TylerSteez 07-20-2016 07:44 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 
Well after scoping it out today you guys are all 100% correct as usual, thanks for the help. Unfortunately removing all that is gonna have to wait, didn't expect to see this when I pulled the carpet up
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...65e99a31f.jpeg

Once I cut this out and weld the new pan in and sealed and get my new carpet and interior installed I will remove all that junk. Thanks again

mantaguy 07-20-2016 08:29 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 

Originally Posted by TylerSteez (Post 6060889)
Wow thanks again, I'll have to add that to the long list of things I need for the car lol, any way you could link me one or give me the exact name of the book?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTIC-19...pXMKo0&vxp=mtr
If your serious about keeping the car ,this is a great tool:thumbsup:

TylerSteez 07-20-2016 08:34 PM

Re: is this original or part of the P.O's audio system?
 

Originally Posted by mantaguy (Post 6061177)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTIC-19...pXMKo0&vxp=mtr
If your serious about keeping the car ,this is a great tool:thumbsup:

I plan on keeping it forever since it was my first car and everyone always says, "I wish I kept my first car" lol. thanks again


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