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jjcuff1 08-19-2014 07:25 AM

Remove Knock Retard test PE or False Tranny?
 
I have been having the same retard around the 2400 rpm in the 112-196 range.

I have added and taken fuel and have 128 all around (non-pe) and even with PE disabled I have 127-128 range in the Maf3-4 tables.

Looking ta logs it appears that during the WOT or heavy stabs my tranny must slip it hits 3000rpm range before it locks. (can I test slip vs tcc to confirm if bad tranny?) it doesn't bang or seem to clam but it is lot of RPM and noise with no load. I can see the LV8 tip in the log then the spike occurs just before the dip in the load

it tapers off usually by 3600 i have a little spike at 208lv8 but I haven't played with fuel or spark here yet

I am going to reduce spark retard to almost 0. I already have spark down to 22-19 between 176-208 and 27-25 in the 124-144 range. I do notice that the car pulls and has torque and no knock in the 80-112 range with 33-36 degrees so I left alone (maybe that causes the knock when it drops to 25 at 112 range)

Orr89RocZ 08-19-2014 07:35 AM

Re: Remove Knock Retard test PE or False Tranny?
 
Probably false. My 305 does it. Took timing down to 20 at wot and still pulls 8-9 deg. So i disabled it, made a pull at 32 deg and felt better. I think these things get overly sensitive. But i need to check the plugs too to be sure

jjcuff1 08-19-2014 08:09 AM

Re: Remove Knock Retard test PE or False Tranny?
 
Yes no matter how low I go and how much fuel I add (to where it bogs and farts gas) I still get 1-3 degrees knock. I am doing short runs like 5 minutes and short WOT stabs I think it will be safe to hit it without retard on.

So how did u disable the KR? Zero out the 1 ESC attack table and set the ESC recovery to 100%?

I notice at mid throttle the car pulls much stronger with the 30-35 degree range and no knock. maybe a blip at 112 less then 1 degree. Again I think it is tranny noise

Orr89RocZ 08-19-2014 08:17 AM

Re: Remove Knock Retard test PE or False Tranny?
 
Something like that. On 8D there is a knock retard degrees in PE and knock retard not in PE table. I just made it pull 1 deg but you can make it 0. I left attack rate there but cut values in half. Upped the recovery rate about 25%.

6E and 32b i believe have tables like that. Been awhile since i been in maf. I did that in my 383 car, i made the pe knock retard 1-2 deg but that car rarely saw any retard. On heavy trans downshift and converter unlock it would see a minor instance but that was about it. This 305 car i have is ridiculous at wot. No way is it detonating under 20 deg and 93 oct

jjcuff1 08-19-2014 08:23 AM

Re: Remove Knock Retard test PE or False Tranny?
 
Got it. Missed that table. Yes I lowered to 0 up to 2000 and 1 the rest for both and left the ESC alone. I already lowered them. Curious to see what car does now.


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