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Mike M 10-14-2009 09:21 AM

Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
Do you have to mash the buttons hard and wiggle them to get everything to work? As long as the buttons have not been pushed so hard as to break them or to make them recess into the control face and the electronics are intact, I can restore feather touch function to the buttons. See the video I made after repairing mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpiICtjmTdE
Contact me directly.
gmjunkyard@live.com

Scorpner 10-14-2009 10:25 AM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
WTF? It's an easy and free fix.

Mike M 10-14-2009 01:48 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
good luck

Scorpner 10-14-2009 04:55 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
Thank you, but I don't need any luck. It's worked great all summer in my daily driver and I don't anticipate any issues in the future. If it shows any signs of deterioration I'll look into alternative solutions.


You have peaked my curiosity. As a potential customer lets say I send mine to you to have it repaired. What do you offer that makes it worth what you're asking to repair one of these? Are you replacing buttons, offering some kind of warranty or what?

Mike M 10-14-2009 05:28 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by Scorpner (Post 4314389)
Thank you, but I don't need any luck. It's worked great all summer in my daily driver and I don't anticipate any issues in the future. If it shows any signs of deterioration I'll look into alternative solutions.


You have peaked my curiosity. As a potential customer lets say I send mine to you to have it repaired. What do you offer that makes it worth what you're asking to repair one of these? Are you replacing buttons, offering some kind of warranty or what?

As long as the buttons have not been pushed so hard as to break the mounting tabs on the back side of the pod face and as long as the electronics are intact I can refurbish it. I clean the back side of the foil buttons and the contacts on the circuit board using a method I perfected. I create a new foam pad from scratch to restore the buttons firmness and proximity to the contacts. Creating this pad is very time consuming but very important. Without it, the buttons wiggle and rattle. I also reinforce the mounting tabs so that they do not break off from normal use. As you can see by the video I made all the functions work with the lightest touch as they were intended. You don't have to press them twice and you don't have to press them hard. I also meticulously clean all the brown goo off the buttons and the circuit board before reassembling everything. All the lights work as well. Anyone who asks me to refurbish their pod will get theirs returned in full working order. If it fails within a reasonable amount of time say 6 months then I'll accept it back for a recheck. If I am at fault then I'll accept that and make it right. If the electronics fail then I cannot predict that.
The methods I use are my own. I imagined them from my own experiences. I tried several different methods until I came up with one that works. I offer no further explanations.
If anyone who has a fussy control pod wants to use your methods then I wish them well. Part of having a Berlinetta is the coolness of the controls. To have them restored to their original function was and still is exhilarating for me. I've lived with that stupid control pod for years and finally came up with a method to fix it. If anyone wants me to refurbish theirs then it is their option. The proof is the video.
I'm glad there is more than one solution available to Berlinetta owners. I hope that we both will let this issue rest.

Scorpner 10-14-2009 06:19 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by Mike M (Post 4314419)
As long as the buttons have not been pushed so hard as to break the mounting tabs on the back side of the pod face and as long as the electronics are intact I can refurbish it. I clean the back side of the foil buttons and the contacts on the circuit board using a method I perfected. I create a new foam pad from scratch to restore the buttons firmness and proximity to the contacts. Creating this pad is very time consuming but very important. Without it, the buttons wiggle and rattle. I also reinforce the mounting tabs so that they do not break off from normal use. As you can see by the video I made all the functions work with the lightest touch as they were intended. You don't have to press them twice and you don't have to press them hard. I also meticulously clean all the brown goo off the buttons and the circuit board before reassembling everything. All the lights work as well. Anyone who asks me to refurbish their pod will get theirs returned in full working order. If it fails within a reasonable amount of time say 6 months then I'll accept it back for a recheck. If I am at fault then I'll accept that and make it right. If the electronics fail then I cannot predict that.
The methods I use are my own. I imagined them from my own experiences. I tried several different methods until I came up with one that works. I offer no further explanations.
If anyone who has a fussy control pod wants to use your methods then I wish them well. Part of having a Berlinetta is the coolness of the controls. To have them restored to their original function was and still is exhilarating for me. I've lived with that stupid control pod for years and finally came up with a method to fix it. If anyone wants me to refurbish theirs then it is their option. The proof is the video.
I'm glad there is more than one solution available to Berlinetta owners. I hope that we both will let this issue rest.

Very well, if you are doing those additional things then it makes more sense. A warranty is also important on something like this. I had found a different reason for the rattle, but I agree that replacing the pad may be necessary. My initial post was to inspire others to fix theirs because I felt the same way, and if this is something you want to take on then more power to you.

John in RI 10-15-2009 08:44 AM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
A little excitement over the Berlinetta !?!?

My hands are starting to sweat with just the thought of maybe driving mine today !



:driving:

1984 starship 10-21-2009 05:06 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
hey there i watched that video you put on youtube and it looks like its working real good. how do you want me to send you my controller and how do i get the damn thing out?? you take paypal right?

John in RI 10-22-2009 08:22 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
That really is one heck of an feat...... I can't say the last time I saw a Berlinetta Heater/Wiper pod that worked better ! (& I've seen a LOT of pods ! )

P.S. Got to put a few 'hard-miles' my Berlinetta today. I just love seeing the sky spinning round-&-round thru the open T-Tops on a sunny day !



:driving:

1984 starship 10-22-2009 09:59 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
thanks everyone for all the help

Mike M 10-22-2009 10:05 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
To all who read this thread:
From this point forward please refer all requests for AC/Wiper control pods to "John in RI". We have reached an agreement and all control pods will be offered through his website. http://www.berlinetta.info/
Further inquiries will not receive a response.
Thanks to all, MM

slcoble 08-30-2014 12:33 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by Scorpner (Post 4314014)
WTF? It's an easy and free fix.

what is the fee for restoring these control pods

Scorpner 08-30-2014 12:55 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
Me? thank you, but I don't repair them for others. Among other things, the stand-offs for the screws are often brittle and break which can cause problems reassembling. If you want to try repairing yours I can offer advice, as it's not really hard to do.

The above post refers to where to have them restored.
Here: http://www.berlinetta.info/

slcoble 08-30-2014 01:09 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
Ready for the advice on restoration of heater pod. My computer will not let me connect to john at berlinetta.info. Need advice on how to possibly do this my self thanks Mike.

Scorpner 08-30-2014 01:14 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
Oh, you can still contact John via PM.
Here: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/priv...do=newpm&u=884


I'm not Mike, but if you want help you can send me a PM. -thanks.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/priv...=newpm&u=33466

Mike M 08-30-2014 02:57 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
Hello to all!
For what it is worth, It has been a few years now and my AC/Wiper control pod is still functioning each and every time I press the buttons. It still remains a feather touch operation. I do not wish to make any money from this. John in R.I. has dominion over the technique used to restore the pod. All I will say is the time and effort it takes to restore one is a cheap fix by comparison. John is the foremost authority on the Berlinetta in my book. He has helped me tremendously on more than one occasion.
Cheers, MM

Krualty 04-30-2015 07:46 AM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
How much is it to repair both?

slcoble 04-30-2015 08:08 AM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by Krualty (Post 5910107)
How much is it to repair both?

I sent my pods to John and he tested and repaired mine. I am very happy with what he did and also gave some advise on where to look on the Internet for other advice. The time John spent working on my pods ( I mean days .) Was well worth the price actually very fair. Send John a pm and you will receive a estimate which actually was what I payed . Great person to deal with.

jcat 04-30-2015 06:01 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by slcoble (Post 5910118)
I sent my pods to John and he tested and repaired mine. I am very happy with what he did and also gave some advise on where to look on the Internet for other advice. The time John spent working on my pods ( I mean days .) Was well worth the price actually very fair. Send John a pm and you will receive a estimate which actually was what I payed . Great person to deal with.

my 84 berlinetta had been sitting for 10 yrs. 2 wks ago I got it running. eng/tranny great .. pods not good..

this cleaning is very very easy to do. I removed the covers exposing the bright metal switches and I cut a clean piece of paper 1/4 inch wide by 6 inches long I then slide the paper strip in between the switch contacts pushed easy on the switch as I pulled the paper to remove the debris/oxidation. all pods both sides work perfect , actually better than many years ago.

I DID NOT , NOR DO I RECOMMEND ANY CHEMICALS...plastic damage is very possible.

I worked circuit boards/repairs etc years ago...electronic tech/ac tech.

Scorpner 05-01-2015 12:32 AM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
Jcat, when I repaired mine I did notice wear on some of the lower contacts, but I just de-soldered one leg from the upper contact so I had enough room to add a bit of solder to the bottom contact. I later thought about simply moving the bottom contact up a little but haven't had reason to try it yet. Hope that helps if you you notice it acting up again. I am/was a technician as well. :)

jcat 05-01-2015 04:54 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by Scorpner (Post 5910557)
Jcat, when I repaired mine I did notice wear on some of the lower contacts, but I just de-soldered one leg from the upper contact so I had enough room to add a bit of solder to the bottom contact. I later thought about simply moving the bottom contact up a little but haven't had reason to try it yet. Hope that helps if you you notice it acting up again. I am/was a technician as well. :)

I did lift up one of these switch contacts . this was the left directional .. just a tad gently. works like new.

back in the day of points/distributor this was well known to clean off any debris on the contact surface using some clean paper ...also we had burnishing tools if they needed more smoothness.

I worked on DC high voltage switching controls also. these acted the same with the contacts needing some polishing and if too bad replacing.


today's pods are magnetic types. board does need cleaning on / for my side view mirrors control on the silverado.I use some denatured alcohol for that one.

my 84 only has 82K so with higher miles perhaps the soldering is needed to get them working properly ..good luck..

Scorpner 05-01-2015 10:13 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
Ok, so lifting the contact is probably what I'll do next time as well. Yep, mine had around 160k miles and you could visually see that the contacts were worn. I had thought about either replacing the lower contact or adding some kind of shim under it, but the solder was the easiest/fastest way to shorten the gap and the car was a DD at the time.

I've heard about servicing points before but HEI had been around for a while by the time I was working on cars. But I do know what you're talking about.

Good info, thanks for sharing your knowledge about it.

markw501 12-16-2023 09:48 AM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by Mike M (Post 4314419)
As long as the buttons have not been pushed so hard as to break the mounting tabs on the back side of the pod face and as long as the electronics are intact I can refurbish it. I clean the back side of the foil buttons and the contacts on the circuit board using a method I perfected. I create a new foam pad from scratch to restore the buttons firmness and proximity to the contacts. Creating this pad is very time consuming but very important. Without it, the buttons wiggle and rattle. I also reinforce the mounting tabs so that they do not break off from normal use. As you can see by the video I made all the functions work with the lightest touch as they were intended. You don't have to press them twice and you don't have to press them hard. I also meticulously clean all the brown goo off the buttons and the circuit board before reassembling everything. All the lights work as well. Anyone who asks me to refurbish their pod will get theirs returned in full working order. If it fails within a reasonable amount of time say 6 months then I'll accept it back for a recheck. If I am at fault then I'll accept that and make it right. If the electronics fail then I cannot predict that.
The methods I use are my own. I imagined them from my own experiences. I tried several different methods until I came up with one that works. I offer no further explanations.
If anyone who has a fussy control pod wants to use your methods then I wish them well. Part of having a Berlinetta is the coolness of the controls. To have them restored to their original function was and still is exhilarating for me. I've lived with that stupid control pod for years and finally came up with a method to fix it. If anyone wants me to refurbish theirs then it is their option. The proof is the video.
I'm glad there is more than one solution available to Berlinetta owners. I hope that we both will let this issue rest.


Mike,
How much do you charge to perform your method? I got a hold of the Berlinetta guy (john in RI) and he said he would take care of mine and But something is disconnecting between him and I on email. He has only returned one email and that was over a year ago. I returned the same email as to avoid problems and no answer. I think he's just tired of doing things. He's retired. If you don't mind, I would really like to get mine back in order. How much do you charge for just the AC pod.
Mark

jcat 01-22-2024 05:13 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by markw501 (Post 6519641)
Mike,
How much do you charge to perform your method? I got a hold of the Berlinetta guy (john in RI) and he said he would take care of mine and But something is disconnecting between him and I on email. He has only returned one email and that was over a year ago. I returned the same email as to avoid problems and no answer. I think he's just tired of doing things. He's retired. If you don't mind, I would really like to get mine back in order. How much do you charge for just the AC pod.
Mark

well the 1984 Camaro Berlinetta july 1984 and todays world ..... now the HVAC electrical components did the damaged it .. transistor/caps/ic components .
the a engine and the transmission and the outside/interior great ...

jcat 01-22-2024 06:46 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by markw501 (Post 6519641)
Mike,
How much do you charge to perform your method? I got a hold of the Berlinetta guy (john in RI) and he said he would take care of mine and But something is disconnecting between him and I on email. He has only returned one email and that was over a year ago. I returned the same email as to avoid problems and no answer. I think he's just tired of doing things. He's retired. If you don't mind, I would really like to get mine back in order. How much do you charge for just the AC pod.
Mark

also the pad cleaning it .. then the alum foil of the pad button glue alum foil !
also the tv remotes pad cleaning it ... and also the alum foil glue ...

markw501 01-23-2024 04:12 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
I'm not seeing a direct response. Just need to know what you would charge because I can't get ahold of John by any method, including phone calls. I've left messages. The one time I did get a hold of him, he said he doesn't keep his phone on him and rarely checks voicemail. It's been a long time since I have spoke with him. I would love to get mine working again.
Mark

John in RI 01-23-2024 05:37 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by markw501 (Post 6519641)
On 12-16-2023 Mark Waggoner wrote:
Mike,
.................. I got a hold of the Berlinetta guy (john in RI) and he said he would take care of mine and But something is disconnecting between him and I on email. He has only returned one email and that was over a year ago. I returned the same email as to avoid problems and no answer. I think he's just tired of doing things. He's retired. If you don't mind, I would really like to get mine back in order. How much do you charge for just the AC pod.
Mark

Retired; I guess that's one way to look at it...... :confused:
This was posted a month back - but since this post will outlive me: Mark, I've made a few attempts to assist you and in each case I've been left hanging. ( I was literally still kinda' expecting you to send your parts when you posed here. )

You did not get a response in 06/23 because I was solo roofing my house - no one got a reply.
You did not get a response in 10/22 because I was hospitalized - no one got a reply.

Under certain circumstances I do not open any new transactions because I do not have the time to commit to them. I've removed all the boring details and personal info thru these messages ( .......... ), but think this is a good way to explain myself:



<<<< SILENCE >>>

On 11/18/2023 11:38 AM, John in RI wrote:
Hi Mark,
Just an FYI: My travel plans begin on November 29th and I will return on December 4th.John in RI
Webmaster@Berlinetta.info

On 11/17/2023 3:35 PM, John in RI wrote:
Hi Mark, I logged into my PC today for the first time in over a month; your the first E-Mail I'm writing ( 225 in my inbox! ) Honestly,..... not much has changed when it comes to describing replacement Pods as it was in my last E-Mail to you. ......................

Since seeking with you a couple weeks ago I have done my best to manage my time and I'm at a point where I can be more dedicated to new online activities. Most of my pre-winter preparations ( firewood, painting, yard work) is completed, my health concerns are "stable" and I've 'cleared my plate' of all the open deals/transactions that I had ongoing. I don't have anyone's parts or money right now and all my other responsibilities and obligations are being met. You're request is now at the top of my internet 'priority list'. I fully expect be accessing my PC on a daily basis going forward and I will be much easier to communicate with. I do still expect to be active during off-hours so E-Mail will be the best way to reach me.

The way things stand ----> I believe the best way forward for you is to send your original Pods here as a first step. I do not have a Blinker Pod that is ready/waiting and I'm still a few days away from having my workbench cleared of the Delco Radios I've got spread across it right now. ( my very next task is to clear that bench ! ) That means I'm not going to be able to start any Pod work till at least next week. ( I've also got a trip to Florida at the end of Nov/begin of Dec.) If you are not using the Berlinetta as a "Daily Driver" then sending your Pods here is the best way forward. When I receive someones parts those parts are my #1 Priority. As soon as the package is opened the parts are inspected/tested, results / repair quotes are reported, and I only begin work once I get an approval and once approved,...... the work is done ASAP. ( Turn-around time is always short )...................

I'll be checking my E-Mail over the weekend so feel free to write back with your input and ask any questions that you might have.

John in RI
Webmaster@Berlinetta.info


On 11/2/2023 4:05 PM, Mark Waggoner wrote:
John, Thank goodness I've gotten a hold of you Just got off the phone with you. Wanting to buy a pod for each side of the dash on either side of the steering wheel................

On 6/8/2023 11:10 AM, Mark Waggoner wrote:
John, Glad to hear you are up around. I didn't know you had health issues. I sent a few emails last year and was hoping you didn't just drop doing this all together. 😅 All us Third Gen guys need to stick together. .................. Thanks so much buddy! Take good care of yourself!
Mark


On 10/29/22 Mark Waggoner wrote:
Are you still working on these? Been trying to get you for years. What price and how can I get them fixed. I'm in desperate need of your help!
Mark


https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...-starship.html

On 10/18//2022 John in RI wrote:
I've still got some berlinetta stuff packed away,...... send me a message if you are still searching for parts.

On 9/29/2022 Mark Waggoner wrote:
Where can I get Camaro Berlinetta Parts from for the dash. Looking desperately for the AC pod and would like to buy spare parts for the future when it comes to the digital dash and the blinker pod (as well as the radio)
I found a forum from over 10 years ago, but I'm afraid none of the links work. Also, does anyone know of a forum for just the Starship owners? Thanks for all your help!
Mark
On 9/18/2022 11:01 PM, Mark Waggoner wrote:
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, but life has been crazy. I need the AC pod repaired. All the buttons are difficult on that pod. I think the radio problems are the needs the Amp repaired or replaced. .................... What is your lead time now? Thanks so much!
Mark

On 10/7/2021 9:05 PM, John in RI wrote:
Hi Mark,
Yup, I'm still restoring Pods when I get requests; For the last couple of years I've been offering to rebuild the original Pods because I can simply no longer keep spare Blinker Pods available at all times. In order for the Blinker Pod to be rebuilt it MUST have a fully intact Blinker Lever and a couple of the buttons will need to get re-used. ....................
John in RI
Webmaster@Berlinetta.info


On 10/5/2021 8:48 PM, Mark Waggoner wrote:
Do you still repair 84 Camaro Berlinetta AC pods? Mine works, but the touch is not very sensitive. Wondering if board is loose or not. Have to press really hard on the buttons to make them work. Also, would love to have an audio jack on my radio some how, but I can't bring my car in.
Mark Waggoner

No Harm - No Foul,.... just see that I tried. You have my phone, address, PayPal and we have communicated thru E-Mail and on this website; the only reason I was unable to help you is because once you had all the info you needed - you simply stopped communicating ( Then posted here ?!? )Sometimes things don't work out; I sure don't feel as it was a lack of effort on my part. Sorry I couldn't help.
:driving:


John in RI 01-23-2024 05:38 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
P.S. No one gets my cell. ;)

:driving:

markw501 01-24-2024 01:32 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
I was not trying to bad mount, I was just frustrated, but what you copied and pasted here, did not make it to me. It did not show in the thread for me. Very odd. I can send my AC pod and will just need it back by March, before I start driving it again.
The address I have was one I looked up online. Please email me at mark@markwaggoner.com. That email seems more reliable.
Mark

John in RI 01-24-2024 02:26 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
Since E-Mail isn't working well here and you appear to be getting my messages here on TGO,... I'll send you a PM here that includes all the details and info that was previously sent to you thru E-Mail.

:driving:

jcat 02-05-2024 06:33 PM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 

Originally Posted by John in RI (Post 6522700)
Since E-Mail isn't working well here and you appear to be getting my messages here on TGO,... I'll send you a PM here that includes all the details and info that was previously sent to you thru E-Mail.

:driving:

so the ac control circuit HVAC board was the capacitors ? 1984 Camaro Berlinetta control HVAC pad ..

John in RI 02-06-2024 10:17 AM

Re: Berlinetta AC/Wiper Control Pod Restoration Now Available !!
 
After 2 weeks waiting for @markw501 ,....... no response. I am backing away from any potential transactions with you Mark. With this many conflicts with simple communication I fear for the outcome of any transaction with you will be a bad one. I am simply not a gambling man,.. sorry I can't help you.


jcat: I just don't understand what your asking ??

:driving:


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