Firebird ugly mode headlight delete
 

I really like this look:

https://i.ebayimg.com/t/Pontiac-Fire...4y!~~60_57.JPG

The reason is, it looks like I will have to regretfully do away with my power bulge hood (clearance issues) and I figured while I was at it..I might as well mod the headlights since "ugly mode" really doesn't appeal to me.

Now finding a set of small headlights to fit in there is not easy but what about the 90s pontiac grand prix? They have super low profile square headlights, 2 highs and 2 lows. I could get away with just the lows and insert a dual fillament socket (or dual HID bulb) if only 1 of them fits int he space.

Anyone tried anything like this before?

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Not gonna lie, I do love that look. Looks really mean.

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there are several threads on here about pop up deletes and one ladies in particular every one will refer to is red raif (sp?) she has a web age with instructions for what she did

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I'm pretty sure Deadbird used GP headlights in his quest for "lower profile" pop ups years ago...

Edit; Bam!

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...d-opinion.html

I know it's not exactly what you're looking for but gives you an idea to bounce off of. W

Edit2: Well... most of pictures of redX so you may PM him to see if he has any shots left?

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Looks like they're still too tall.... maybe this, don't like the rounded corners but tucked away deep it should not be very visible

http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/appea...maro/ff75e.jpg

I like these better

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0037_large.jpg
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The 1st are CATZ lights, the 2nd..looks like the stock early 4th gens but they are probably too tall also

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http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0033_large.jpg

https://media.motortopia.com/files/1..._full_1274.jpg

https://media.motortopia.com/files/1..._full_0882.jpg

Try this thread:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...etes-look.html


The vette boys have better options:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/atta...t-pic1-834.jpg

http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/corv...m/SANY0326.JPG

I think the curve is more severe on the C4 than the thirdgen, but, I'd look for something like that.

-- Joe

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I absolutely hate those lemans headlamps LOL

I do like the red one on top.

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Hey if you're gonna be around for the next few minutes I got a question for you. sending pm

-- Joe

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Looks like redraif used driving lights, that will not be allowed here :( there's probably no good pattern to the beam, immediate tech inspection failure. Crap!

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[quote=Twin_Turbo;5488229]I really like this look:

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Pontiac-Fireb...4y!~~60_57.JPG

When I first saw this on duraflex site I thought they made a mistake as it looks like a hood for a camaro not a firebird . It just doesn't look right with the lines of the car IMO,

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[QUOTE=T/Aperformance;5489815]I bet it would look nice on a 91-92 with headlamps moved to where the fog lights are.

-- Joe

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I love that hood, but I would never do the fixed headlight mod on my car. I do hate how my car looks with the headlights up

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That would look sweet!

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I love to pop up the lights :D Its so satisfying to see them fly open that I'd rather keep the stock look. No one would even notice the looks in dark.

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The Fiero crowd has been doing pop-up deletes like these for years. Visit Pennock's Fiero forum.

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Seems redraif was also working on a variation for a fiero too... Can't locate pics of it completed though...
Bet it would be similar to a 91-92 bird...

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...4235_large.jpg

http://carphotos4.cardomain.com/imag...1591_large.jpg

http://carphotos3.cardomain.com/imag...1582_large.jpg

These came up in a google image search of "redraif". they linked back to a cardomain page that is not complete

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Some of the other fiero deletes...

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/A...-2-111206.html

http://www.fierosails.com/images/StripesFront_1.jpg


http://cliff.hostkansas.com/images/2...iero_gt_05.jpg

http://static.cargurus.com/images/si...pic-38577.jpeg

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those are pretty low profile... looks like 4th gen stuff

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anyone ever seen this done on a 91 or 92? I know that since the headlight closes flush with the bumper it would entail more work though.

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i helped my friend with his he used the marker lights and made clear lenses for them and mounted a them side by side and put HIR's in them. then he took an old camaro hood welded the patches in and bolted the hood back on.

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I so might have to do this to my build. I love that look. I want to see it with a ram air hood though

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I dont mind the pop ups, but i wish we could retrofit hid's in our 7x6 sealed units. Every aftermarket sealed beam assembly is not sealed where the bulb enters the back. So they just fill with water, and i even rtv'd mine in, used the suppled water stop and wrapped that all with electrical tape.
But somehow it still leaked.
If you ever complete this project im probably going to follow and do the same :D

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you can you just have to rtv or expoxy the bulb in

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or you buy some quality hella units and they will not leak. Sealed beams used to be outlawed here (because you had to be able to replace the lbulb on the side of the road...yeah right...like that's gonna work...anyway since a lot of cars are not easily servicable there they dropped the requirement)

I have hella units in all my cars, the sockets are sealed with a rubber gasket and there;s a large bib over the bulb that prevents water from coming in also. I have used HID bulbs in these kinds of units and never ever had water in them and boy can it rain here!!

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do you have any pictures of it. i too am looking to do this type of mod.

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I did the redraif headlight mod on my old 86 and I am in the process of doing it on my 84. I may nightshade the blueish light housings this time around. Upgraded H3's are a must.

Some old pics

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I vote headlight delete hood w/ the shaker. 4th gen camaro lights tucked as far back as you can get them. (without that nasty blue glass also!)

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4thgen headlights or any other stock headlights will never work. They are way to large. The headlight openings are roughly 10" x 1.5". The only other thing that would work is placing some kind of tinted cover on the front and mounting headlights way back like you say.

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I'm also looking to do this and like everyone else looking for ideas. I saw a pic of the polly motorsports 86 t/a and would love to figure out how they pulled it off. has anbody else seen this?

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I found something very interesting for the C5 corvettes:

Son Guns headlights, uses Hella Modules.

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Bump,


Anyone have any status updates on this??

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look at an image of a 1992 olds cutlass supreme I think they might work.

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http://modernolds.net/wp-content/upl...preme-1993.jpg

http://modernolds.net/wp-content/upl...preme-1994.jpg

http://modernolds.net/wp-content/upl...preme-1995.jpg

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I tried looking for some specs like height, width, depth, etc but had no luck.

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I looked into doing this before having my Trans Am painted but didn't follow through. The Olds headlights are the same as the 90s Grand Prix headlights, which are somewhere around 1/2" too tall from what I remember (but this was many years ago). I thought about modifying a nose to make the headlight pockets go low enough to fit them and then create a mold and fiberglass nose, but it was too big of a project for me to take on having zero experience working with fiberglass.

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Can't find the duraflex headlight delete hood on there site. Anyone got a link?

I made my own pop up deleteS with dual bixenon HID projectors. Not a fan of the popups but reluctant to cut up a bumper cover to make more room on my bird.

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Any updates on lights that fit? I'm tempted to buy the duraflex hood too so I can run a different intake elbow.

-- Joe

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Some good ideas back then, any new looks going on lately for our cars.?

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I was thinking about this the other day again, as well. They make nice kits for 4th gens to run fixed headlamps, and I also have a kit for m C4. I'd love to delete the pop up lights on the thirdgen formula.

It would be nice if someone made a 1979/81 style nose for the thirdgen to run four headlamps. I considered buying a fiberglass bumper and modifying it but I've got way too many projects right now.

-- Joe

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There was this one I did years back

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...d-flip-up.html

I might be trying something different when I get my 86 back together.

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I'm sure if you look at wreckers in the very near future you will find some LED headlights that will fit that short opening. Sime of the OEM stuff these days up pretty near. It will look super awesome.

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I'm surprised nobody has made something like this for thirdgens. I would think there is enough height to pull off two low profile lights next to each other.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...027818eb53.jpg

Back in the day the buckets would be made out of fiberglass, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone couldn't just 3d print them.

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Check out the products from this guy in Canada. Very nice stuff.

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Personally, I like the pop-up headlamps.

But this is an interesting subject. I had the privilege of attending a Q&A session about the Fiero at the Pontiac Transportation Museum with John Schinella last weekend.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/memb...ml#post6521515

During the session, one of the online attendees asked about the pop-up headlamps. John said they liked them, but then mentioned that stylists today have SO many more options for shape and size with LEDs, and he seemed quite envious of the way in which LED laps set the stylist free to experiment with many different designs. He mentioned that there were kits for doing this. While I don't know if he was thinking of these specifically, they certainly would seem to apply.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...ht-delete.html

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I always wanted to this mod with a set of projectors. I think it looks great

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...d-flip-up.html

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Nice 👍