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Midwest Muscle 09-11-2006 11:11 AM

Silver IROC-Z is an '85 only deal?
 
Hey folks, I was looking on eBay a few days back, and saw that someone was selling an '85 IROC-Z claiming it was the only year you could get a silver IROC-Z directly from the factory.

I have an '85 IROC-Z with a whole 3,800 miles on it. Is it true that it's a one-year only color for the IROC? I looked around and it appears to be the case - But I thought I'd ask the experts!

Mike M

coolram62 09-11-2006 03:44 PM

According to the "Camaro Whitebook",which isn't 100% right all the time,1985 was the only year you could get a silver(code 12 in '85)IROC.Now that's not to say someone didn't special order a silver IROC in other years.And i'm not an expert just sharing what I've read.hope it helps.

Love to see some pictures of your car.Please share with us.And only 3800 miles.You wouldn't happen to be the original owner too?

JamesC 09-11-2006 04:11 PM

Here's mine and some others as well as a bit of info:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...in-carside.jpg

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...t=dual+snorkel

JamesC

Midwest Muscle 09-11-2006 04:58 PM

No, I'm not the original owner. It came out the year I graduated HS, and I would have ordered the TPI and put about 50,000 miles on it the first year rodding the piss out of it! Long way from affording one then :-)

I bought it from the guy that walked around it all those years, just driving it occasionally. I have an '82 Vette with 450 miles, and an '89 Turbo Trans Am with 1,200. So the IROC is my 'high mileage' one, but still pretty low!

Lots of pics at the links below. And no, this car isn't for sale. I host the pictures at my dealer website, but you will see it is in the "private collection" area along with the other '80s GM stuff. Reliving my childhood!

http://mohotcars.com/iroc.html

http://mohotcars.com/pb/showroom/all/all.html


camaro430sut 09-11-2006 05:52 PM

in 85 you could order silver with red trim and most ive seen have red interior. i could b wrong tho and it might have been avalible with othe interior colors. the only other year silver was avalible on the IROC was 88 when they offered the charcoal grey. hope that helps a lil.
matt

82 Iron Duke 09-11-2006 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Midwest Muscle (Post 3056681)
No, I'm not the original owner. It came out the year I graduated HS, and I would have ordered the TPI and put about 50,000 miles on it the first year rodding the piss out of it! Long way from affording one then :-)

I bought it from the guy that walked around it all those years, just driving it occasionally. I have an '82 Vette with 450 miles, and an '89 Turbo Trans Am with 1,200. So the IROC is my 'high mileage' one, but still pretty low!

Lots of pics at the links below. And no, this car isn't for sale. I host the pictures at my dealer website, but you will see it is in the "private collection" area along with the other '80s GM stuff. Reliving my childhood!

http://mohotcars.com/iroc.html

http://mohotcars.com/pb/showroom/all/all.html

DANNNNNNNNNNG :eek:

StreetRoc85 350 09-11-2006 05:59 PM

wow im jealous

JamesC 09-11-2006 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by camaro430sut (Post 3056741)
in 85 you could order silver with red trim and most ive seen have red interior.

I've never seen one with a red interior (which means nothing, especially since I've never seen another silver Camaro in person), but mine was black. By the way, drive it or it's worth zero. I mention that only because mine has 150,000 miles, and I love every minute behind the wheel.

James

scottmoyer 09-11-2006 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by camaro430sut (Post 3056741)
in 85 you could order silver with red trim and most ive seen have red interior. i could b wrong tho and it might have been avalible with othe interior colors. the only other year silver was avalible on the IROC was 88 when they offered the charcoal grey. hope that helps a lil.
matt


On the IROC-Z only, the silver was available only in 85 and the grey was only available in 88. The colors were available for other models in other years. The silver and grey are very different colors so silver was not available in 88.

Midwest Muscle 09-11-2006 07:24 PM

Is the '88 version what we used to call Gunmetal Grey? I'm working with a guy to try to agree on a price for a nice driver quality one now. I see a blown big block temporarily residing where its original 5.0 TPI currently is. You can't do cool stuff like that with a really low mileage original. I need a car I can actually tinker with ...

91birdlover 09-11-2006 07:53 PM

"gun metal gray" is the 88 color. Although, I didn't know that silver and gray were only one year colors.

JamesC 09-11-2006 08:47 PM

According to a GM brochure for 1985, the color is "silver met." As general info, IROC's were only available in the following colors: silver met, black, bright blue met, yellow, and red.

JamesC

Midwest Muscle 09-11-2006 11:38 PM

It is silver metallic - You are correct. It's that water based enamel, which still looks surprisingly excellent after all these years. I suppose not spending time in the sun has some advantages ...

Willie 09-11-2006 11:43 PM

As general info, IROC's were only available in the following colors: silver met, black, bright blue met, yellow, and red.

Don't forget white!!!

JamesC 09-12-2006 05:35 AM

White wasn't mentioned in the brochure, but as we all know GM....

JamesC

Jim85IROC 09-12-2006 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by JamesC (Post 3056768)
I've never seen one with a red interior (which means nothing, especially since I've never seen another silver Camaro in person), but mine was black. By the way, drive it or it's worth zero. I mention that only because mine has 150,000 miles, and I love every minute behind the wheel.

James

Most of the silver IROCs that I've seen have had the red interior, but as your car proves, the color was also available with different interiors.

one of my favorite combos on a thirdgen is silver with a tasteful red interior (it's real easy to turn from tasteful to tacky with red interiors). It's an absolutely beautiful combination. :nod:

JamesC 09-12-2006 08:33 AM

According to the above mentioned brochure, the Sport Coupe, Z28 and IROC came in Vinyl (Std) and Cloth (Opt) in the following colors: Black, Copper (NA IROC), Gray, Red, and Saddle.

Optional Custom Interior. Sport Coupe, Z28, and IROC had cloth in Black, Copper (NA IROC) Gray, Red, and Saddle.

Z28 and IROC with optional L/S Conteur came with cloth in black (Gray cloth seat and door insert), Red, and Saddle. This latter is probably the so-called Camaro, Camaro, Camaro interior.

The White Book mentions that the recommended interiors for a silver car were Black, Gray, Red, and Saddle (but that special order deviations may have been built).

JamesC

Red1992V6Rs 09-12-2006 10:29 AM

All the Silver Metallic Irocs I have seen do have red interior. My dad's old H.0. 5spd had the red, which dark red faded stripes.( dont know how to explain it), the one on ebay had the Camaro Camaro Camaro Camaro, and Midwest's has leather.

Midwest, that's quite a collection you have there. I'd give anything to have your collection.

Midwest Muscle 09-12-2006 10:54 AM

I wish mine had leather - It's actually just the vinyl, but it is in perfect shape. The car was ordered with some strange combinations ...

LG4, but Posi and 4 wheel disk brakes?

Vinyl interior, but things like the overhead console and power mirrors?

The t-tops make sense though ...

Mike M

coolram62 09-12-2006 12:31 PM

I was wondering about whether it was leather or vinyl Midwest.So you have the custom interior without the upgrade to cloth.She is very nice.And I was thinking the same thing LG4/Auto combo in such a heavily optioned car.And it's interesting where the fog light switch is in '85.I gues this is done because the rear wiper was still an option

LeonardS 09-12-2006 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Midwest Muscle (Post 3056681)
No, I'm not the original owner. It came out the year I graduated HS, and I would have ordered the TPI and put about 50,000 miles on it the first year rodding the piss out of it! Long way from affording one then :-)

I bought it from the guy that walked around it all those years, just driving it occasionally. I have an '82 Vette with 450 miles, and an '89 Turbo Trans Am with 1,200. So the IROC is my 'high mileage' one, but still pretty low!

Lots of pics at the links below. And no, this car isn't for sale. I host the pictures at my dealer website, but you will see it is in the "private collection" area along with the other '80s GM stuff. Reliving my childhood!

http://mohotcars.com/iroc.html

http://mohotcars.com/pb/showroom/all/all.html

Hey Mike, I'm glad to see there is someone else that can enjoy their cars without putting thousands of miles on them.

I have a 92 Z28 with 125 miles, a 94 Z28 with 595 miles, a 99 SS Vert. with 715 miles and a 02 SS Coupe with 20 miles. I also have a 69 Z28 but it has many miles on it.

Keep up the good work on putting your collection together!

Leonard

Midwest Muscle 09-12-2006 01:06 PM

Coolram, like you said - There's some odd combinations in this car. I asked the original owner why he didn't choose TPI. He said he didn't trust it, and wanted a carb. I asked why he didn't order the H.O. version, and he said he wanted an Auto, and didn't think you could get the H.O. unless you wanted a 5-sp. Okay ...

Leonard, I've had a few dozen great cars over the past couple of decades. Some cars you drive, some you race, and some you collect. It's only when you try to make the same car do 2-3 of those different things that I don't enjoy them as much. Some of these cars are like artwork to me, and they have some nostaglic pull for one reason or another.

Mike M

coolram62 09-12-2006 01:44 PM

Mike you hit the nail on the head as to each being a form of artwork or having the nostalgic meaning for times past.And whoever ordered my '83 Z checked off every box on the option list except the rear wiper and engine block heater.They ordered the LU5/Auto when they could have gotten the HO/5 speed probably for the same reason as the original owner of your '85.

And Leonard your collection sounds most impressive too.

Isaac

Midwest Muscle 09-12-2006 10:04 PM

Leonard, I might have to see how far away your place is from mine. I'd love to see those cars of yours!

LeonardS 09-13-2006 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by Midwest Muscle (Post 3058477)
Leonard, I might have to see how far away your place is from mine. I'd love to see those cars of yours!

4 of them are 309 miles from you and 1 of them is kept 366 miles from you. Just a short drive "Traveling the USA in a Chevrolet"!

Not that it will excite you much, but I also have a 1929 Model A, Business Coupe. I have several friends with A's so they talked me into one a couple years ago. I am actually impressed with "Henry's Lady" from 75+ years ago.

Jim85IROC 09-13-2006 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Midwest Muscle (Post 3057643)
I wish mine had leather - It's actually just the vinyl, but it is in perfect shape. The car was ordered with some strange combinations ...

LG4, but Posi and 4 wheel disk brakes?

Vinyl interior, but things like the overhead console and power mirrors?

The t-tops make sense though ...

Mike M

I've seen some oddly optioned IROCs, and almost always, the 85s seemed to have the most odd combinations. I can only guess that because it was the first year for the IROC package, dealers weren't really sure yet who would be buying them, so they didn't stick with the conventional list of options.

My 85 is optioned very strangely also. It came with the LB9 and 4 wheel disk brakes, even a 3.42 gears, but no posi. It came with most comfort options, including A/C, premium seating with the power driver seat, power windows, locks, cruise, tilt, overhead console, yet came with just the AM radio and no power mirrors. :crazy:

Midwest Muscle 09-13-2006 08:50 AM

Jim, now that is odd! Here mine sits with a Posi it doesn't need, and you have the one that should have had it. Weird to have AM radio with all those other creature comforts. Maybe he liked bad quality country stations!

Leonard, the "A" sounds cool. I've never owned one, but they are fascinating in their own way.

JamesC 09-13-2006 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Jim85IROC (Post 3058830)
AM radio

But, Jim, you did get the amazing console clock, righto! My 85 was equipped with most everything (no overhead or limited slip though those have been added) to include the famous/infamous clock and rear washer and wiper.

JamesC

Midwest Muscle 09-13-2006 12:11 PM

That overhead console 'wheel' thing is interesting! Here's my RPO list >>

http://mohotcars.com/iroc_rpo.html

I didn't know you could delete things like the side body molding, but now I do. Someone posted before that my car was missing that molding - Nope. It does however have the rear door lip protection strip. Weird ...

Mike M

JamesC 09-13-2006 12:17 PM

I've modded my car extensively, though it has a stock appearance (I went for the sleeper look I so admired as a kid), and the only peice the car didn't have or have added that I would have liked is the locking, hardcover rear shelf.

JamesC

82 Iron Duke 09-13-2006 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by LeonardS (Post 3057754)
Hey Mike, I'm glad to see there is someone else that can enjoy their cars without putting thousands of miles on them.

I have a 92 Z28 with 125 miles, a 94 Z28 with 595 miles, a 99 SS Vert. with 715 miles and a 02 SS Coupe with 20 miles. I also have a 69 Z28 but it has many miles on it.

Keep up the good work on putting your collection together!

Leonard

DANNNNNNNNNNNNNNG :eek: Impressive you guys. :eek:

Jim85IROC 09-14-2006 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by JamesC (Post 3058861)
But, Jim, you did get the amazing console clock, righto! My 85 was equipped with most everything (no overhead or limited slip though those have been added) to include the famous/infamous clock and rear washer and wiper.

JamesC

I love the console clock too! When I first got the car I hated it and planned to pull it out and make a cup holder out of that space, but I'm glad that I kept it. The clock really gives my car a unique appearance. Near the bottom of my very long "to do" list is to make a white overlay for the clock so that it will match all of my other gauges.

1991 RS 305 10-24-2010 01:11 PM

Re: Silver IROC-Z is an '85 only deal?
 
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Originally Posted by JamesC (Post 3056768)
I've never seen one with a red interior (which means nothing, especially since I've never seen another silver Camaro in person), .

James

Here's Silver and Red Logo/Conteur interior


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