Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... I've had a chance to start working on the yellow IROC the past few days. I've fixed a bunch of little stuff on the car, started cleaning and detailing, adjusted the TV cable, (I need to take it on a test drive), and touched up 50+ paint chips/scratches. Here are a couple pics from my new garage. http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/485/img1918ss.jpg http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9489/img1919jf.jpg Started detailing the engine compartment. http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/273/img1920y.jpg Those pinstripes were a real biotch to take off. If you look at the passenger fender on the first pic, that 10" piece took me like 45 minutes to remove, using the usual heat and chemical methods, so I ordered a pinstripe eraser. It works, but it makes a huge mess. And I still have to peel the pinstripe off from around the mirrors as there wasn't enough clearance for the eraser. These pics don't even begin to show how messy it is. I personally looked like the hairy beast from Borneo. :lmao: Do it outside if you can. http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3531/img1921yf.jpg http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8995/img1922ku.jpg |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... i have only seen one other yellow IROC that clean and it belonged to a friend for a short spell till he sold it. all i would do to that car is detail the fender wells. get in there with some simple green and a small scrub brush. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by QUICKCHICKEN
(Post 5122100)
i have only seen one other yellow IROC that clean and it belonged to a friend for a short spell till he sold it. all i would do to that car is detail the fender wells. get in there with some simple green and a small scrub brush. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Wow so nice to see a yellow Iroc that looks so good! It makes me want to cry. lol My first Camaro look just like that! Was a 86. Sold it 15 yrs ago. My favorite color on the Iroc. Mine had the gray interior, i was the second owner. Dude you are one lucky guy! |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... judging by the eng bay the underside is just reg dirt vs clean daily driven dirt vs oil/dirt mix dirty. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by QUICKCHICKEN
(Post 5122115)
judging by the eng bay the underside is just reg dirt vs clean daily driven dirt vs oil/dirt mix dirty. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by camarosrock1989
(Post 5122112)
Wow so nice to see a yellow Iroc that looks so good! It makes me want to cry. lol My first Camaro look just like that! Was a 86. Sold it 15 yrs ago. My favorite color on the Iroc. Mine had the gray interior, i was the second owner. Dude you are one lucky guy! |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... I would say you made the right choice! I am still looking for my old Iroc. Been a lot of years ago. Found one picture recently of the rear of the car. Thought I would add it. http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/z...l/PTDC0104.jpg |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Awesome garage and a fine collection LOL. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Charles, Lookin good!! Glad you found the "right" yellow IROC. You have a nice new shop yourself. A word of advice from personal experience on your new coated floor...if you don't want tire tread "stains" on your floor where your cars sit for a while, go to Wal Mart or Lowes and get a few pieces of that interlocking foam floor padding for kids thats about 3 feet square and cut them in half and park your cars on them. Its very frustrating for a shiny new floor to have brown pattern blotches on it the rest of its life! Jason |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by Jason444
(Post 5122237)
Charles, Lookin good!! Glad you found the "right" yellow IROC. You have a nice new shop yourself. A word of advice from personal experience on your new coated floor...if you don't want tire tread "stains" on your floor where your cars sit for a while, go to Wal Mart or Lowes and get a few pieces of that interlocking foam floor padding for kids thats about 3 feet square and cut them in half and park your cars on them. Its very frustrating for a shiny new floor to have brown pattern blotches on it the rest of its life! Jason |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by Jason444
(Post 5122237)
Glad you found the "right" yellow IROC. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... FINALLY some pics of this beast! Looks great Charlie! Nice to see another well kept 85 IROC-Z. Is yours a Norwood car or a Van Nuys car? |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Looking great! New garage looks great too! I see yours is set up double-deep like mine? |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Looks like it is coming along nicely. Just a tip with the pinstripe eraser. Sometimes they actually leave a "rub" in the paint. So go slow and only apply the lightest pressure possible when using. Then use some 3M rubbing compond afterword over the section of the paint you used the eraser. Keep us updated! |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by Motown
(Post 5123034)
FINALLY some pics of this beast! Looks great Charlie! Nice to see another well kept 85 IROC-Z. Is yours a Norwood car or a Van Nuys car? It's a Van Nuys car. All three are. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by Jason E
(Post 5123214)
Looking great! New garage looks great too! I see yours is set up double-deep like mine? |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Question...how bad was your TPI assembly before cleaning? What do you find works well? My IROC is perfect, but its only because I used brake cleaner while I had everything apart for the intake gasket. I don't plan to do that to either TA...any suggestions on something that might spray on well, or is something I can scrub with? The top of the plenum with the "crackle" finish is the worst part of both...the runners aren't as bad... |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by burnout88
(Post 5123216)
Looks like it is coming along nicely. Just a tip with the pinstripe eraser. Sometimes they actually leave a "rub" in the paint. So go slow and only apply the lightest pressure possible when using. Then use some 3M rubbing compond afterword over the section of the paint you used the eraser. Keep us updated! |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by Jason E
(Post 5123226)
Question...how bad was your TPI assembly before cleaning? What do you find works well? My IROC is perfect, but its only because I used brake cleaner while I had everything apart for the intake gasket. I don't plan to do that to either TA...any suggestions on something that might spray on well, or is something I can scrub with? The top of the plenum with the "crackle" finish is the worst part of both...the runners aren't as bad... |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by chazman
(Post 5123237)
I used to use Simple Green on the engine compartment until I heard that it attacks aluminum components and leaves stains. I now use Meguires All Pupose Cleaner. It's a professional product and you can't buy it in stores. You have to order it from Autogeek.com or elsewhere. For really dirty jobs like the engine compartment, I'll mix up a batch 50% with water and spray the whole area down. I'll let it dwell a while and then get out my brushes and start scrubbing! Then I'll hose all that crap off. After that, I'll spray everything with something like Aerospace 303 and wipe down. There are still alot of nooks and crannies I've got to get into still. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by scottmoyer
(Post 5123415)
Is the Simple Green issue the reason I see spots on the rims of my Silverado? I use simple Green to clean the tires and raised whites on my truck and the rims started showing a cloudy haze start last year. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... So, I bought the extra large Dr. Color Chip kit for this car - seeing as it had nearly a million chips. I figured that it would save me many hours of sanding, buffing, finishing. Once you get the hang of it, the system works pretty well. The problem? Well, the paint code I gave them, created a bottle of 1985 yellow paint - as I would imagine it would appear in 1985, not 2011. I wasn't really happy with my final results, since the touch up paint was far from a perfect match. The touch ups were noticeably darker. But...before the car left the dealer I bought it from, the previous owner stopped in there, with a half quart of yellow paint that the body shop mixed up to include with the car. Apparently, the previous owner's nephew had put a "scrape" on the car when he took it to prom, and the his dad had it fixed. I shook up the can, popped the lid, went around the whole car and re-touched up everything. Perfect paint match. :nod: |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Re: Aluminum and Simple Green http://www.simplegreen.com/solutions...query=aluminum Aluminum is always a pain to clean up. It tends to get dingy and stay that way. Eagle One makes a cleaner for uncoated, rough cast aluminum wheels. It's a rather harsh acid. You spray it on, wait about 30 seconds and hose it off. It does wonders on SOME aluminum parts, like runners. The plenum is a different story, it usually loses some shine and looks more white after being treated. For whatever reason the Eagle One etching cleaner doesn't seem to do a thing to GM alternator cases. I'd guess the difference could be different alloys. It's a bit risky and aggressive for a really nice car, but in some cases you have nothing to lose. On my Mustang project, most of the aluminum parts were very dingy and stained. I found that coating the parts in Naval Jelly (again a caustic solution) for about 10 minutes gave the bare aluminum an even finish. Keep in mind, the container says specifically not to use it on aluminum. Use your best judgement, if you want to try it, do it someplace where you won't mind if the results aren't what you had in mind. Castrol Superclean is another chemical that can attack aluminum. It can work well in some scenarios, but it's important to keep in mind it will dissolve aluminum if left long enough. In about an hour Superclean can eat through a soda can. Another option for matching paint is having the paint shop mix the paint to match the car. I don't mean by paint chip or color code, most shops have a widget they set on the painted surface of the car and it generates a code to mix paint to match that color. It's still not foolproof, but it might get closer to a UV exposed current color then the color 20 years ago. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by Drew
(Post 5123956)
Re: Aluminum and Simple Green http://www.simplegreen.com/solutions...query=aluminum Aluminum is always a pain to clean up. It tends to get dingy and stay that way. Eagle One makes a cleaner for uncoated, rough cast aluminum wheels. It's a rather harsh acid. You spray it on, wait about 30 seconds and hose it off. It does wonders on SOME aluminum parts, like runners. The plenum is a different story, it usually loses some shine and looks more white after being treated. For whatever reason the Eagle One etching cleaner doesn't seem to do a thing to GM alternator cases. I'd guess the difference could be different alloys. It's a bit risky and aggressive for a really nice car, but in some cases you have nothing to lose. On my Mustang project, most of the aluminum parts were very dingy and stained. I found that coating the parts in Naval Jelly (again a caustic solution) for about 10 minutes gave the bare aluminum an even finish. Keep in mind, the container says specifically not to use it on aluminum. Use your best judgement, if you want to try it, do it someplace where you won't mind if the results aren't what you had in mind. Castrol Superclean is another chemical that can attack aluminum. It can work well in some scenarios, but it's important to keep in mind it will dissolve aluminum if left long enough. In about an hour Superclean can eat through a soda can. Another option for matching paint is having the paint shop mix the paint to match the car. I don't mean by paint chip or color code, most shops have a widget they set on the painted surface of the car and it generates a code to mix paint to match that color. It's still not foolproof, but it might get closer to a UV exposed current color then the color 20 years ago. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... 2 Attachment(s) NJ may darken the finish, but it makes the aluminum even (ie. no stains). It may require buffing with 000 steel wool to bring back the shine. Aluminum paint never seems to look right either, but sometimes it's a necessary evil. Attachment 378863 Attachment 378864 Nothing short of paint was going to clean up the aluminum snout of that starter. http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...040_medium.jpg http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...042_medium.jpg Both the aluminum PS bracket, and alternator case were cleaned up with Naval Jelly. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Looks good. I've tried everything in my garage, including steel wool and Scotchbrite pads. I figured paint was my last resort, but I'll give naval jelly a try. How long did you leave it on for? |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Minutes... 5-10 if I remember correctly. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... You bought that car out of Morris MN? If so, you move faster than I. I was gonna bring cash and look at it the Monday after it was sold. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by jcd
(Post 5125910)
You bought that car out of Morris MN? If so, you move faster than I. I was gonna bring cash and look at it the Monday after it was sold. Yup, that's the one. I think I called on it minutes after the ad was posted. That was on a Wednesday. By Thursday evening, the dealer had already sent me a bunch more pics, got me the previous owner's contact info, (who I still talk to), and got the Carfax on it. That evening I had committed to buy it and did a credit card deposit, first thing Friday morning. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... I dont know what I like better, the car or the garage! Also I suggest you get a correct side post battery and get rid of those goofy adapters, unless youve done the conversion already. And since you have 2 cars in your fleet with no clearcoat paint like my 85, any special waxing tips or can I use items such as claybar on mine even though it doesnt have clearcoat? Ive only used meguiars cleaning wax on my car, because I dont know what else to use to make my paint pop. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by Motown
(Post 5125978)
I dont know what I like better, the car or the garage! Also I suggest you get a correct side post battery and get rid of those goofy adapters, unless youve done the conversion already. And since you have 2 cars in your fleet with no clearcoat paint like my 85, any special waxing tips or can I use items such as claybar on mine even though it doesnt have clearcoat? Ive only used meguiars cleaning wax on my car, because I dont know what else to use to make my paint pop. I read an interesting article a while ago on restoring single stage paint. Basically what it was saying was, before you bring out all the abrasive products, it's a good idea to get the paint healthy again. You do that by feeding it essential oils - like from older products, like Meguire's number 7. I'll look for the article later and post it here. My '83 is white, but when I first got it, it sort of looked like light beige. Everyone was telling me to repaint it, but I'm really into restoring original stuff. I killed afew claybars on that thing and it took me a long time, but man oh man, that paint is WHITE now. Clean, feed, clay, polish and wax. I tried some #7 on the yellow car last night. I only wanted to do some test spots, but the bottle I was using was a little old and the nozzle was clogged. When I tried to squeeze some product on my pad, the side of the bottle cracked and puked a buttload of #7 on my hood. :gocrazy: So I ended up doing half the car with it. I've heard some folks put it on heavy and let it sit overnight in order to try a bring back a SS paint finish. I wiped it off after about an hour though. Paint does look yellower. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Here you go. Get yourself a pop, this is a long one: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...ge-paints.html Lots of links in the story too, like how to work white paint. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Wow Charlie thanks a ton! Thats gonna be an excellent article to read!! :burnout: |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by chazman
(Post 5125946)
Yup, that's the one. I think I called on it minutes after the ad was posted. That was on a Wednesday. By Thursday evening, the dealer had already sent me a bunch more pics, got me the previous owner's contact info, (who I still talk to), and got the Carfax on it. That evening I had committed to buy it and did a credit card deposit, first thing Friday morning. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... T5 swap... T5 swap... T5 swap... |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by KMK454
(Post 5126803)
T5 swap... T5 swap... T5 swap... |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Nice to see another yellow '85 with a good home. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... The pinstripes from hell are gone.... http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3842/img1923zo.jpg http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6515/img1924na.jpg And here are the '85's roomates. http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/2986/img1925rb.jpg http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6996/img1926je.jpg Okay, back to the garage. Gotta finish claying and try to figure out it's crazy temp gauge........:) |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Looks much better without the goofy pinstripe. It must be the pics you take but all of your cars look flawless. Keep up with the updates and pictures. (At least I) really appreciate them. :burnout: |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Looks good Charlie, much better! |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Looks good Charlie!! Really sharp looking car. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by Motown
(Post 5127357)
Looks much better without the goofy pinstripe. It must be the pics you take but all of your cars look flawless. Keep up with the updates and pictures. (At least I) really appreciate them. :burnout: The yellow one has 3 or 4 pretty prominant door dings on the driver's door which for some reason aren't visible in the pictures. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8
(Post 5127415)
Looks good Charlie, much better!
Originally Posted by burnout88
(Post 5127490)
Looks good Charlie!! Really sharp looking car. Thanks guys. I was thinking about getting the front spoiler repainted, since it was so beat up. But I touched up about 100 stone chips and scrapes on it last night, with the previous owners perfect match can of paint. I'll wet sand and polish it and see how it looks. BTW Brian, we were talking previously about a trans leak that the previous owner mentioned to me. I don't know what's leaking now. Looks like two oil leaks, maybe one of them is from the rear seal and the previous owner thought it was a trans leak. I'll jack it up and get a closer look at that later..... |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by chazman
(Post 5127591)
The white one has 99,xxx miles and looks pretty mint from about 5 or 10 feet. It has a lot of small door dings right on the door creases though. The yellow one has 3 or 4 pretty prominant door dings on the driver's door which for some reason aren't visible in the pictures. Both look like new again. I always take the door panel off for them before I go in and that seems to improve the quality of the job. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by burnout88
(Post 5127613)
Have you tried one of those dent buster places? On my IROC I got a a nasty ding right in the door crease and they go it out no problem. I also got a nasty crease in my Silverado and it was a deep crease and they got it out no problem. Both look like new again. I always take the door panel off for them before I go in and that seems to improve the quality of the job. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by chazman
(Post 5127597)
BTW Brian, we were talking previously about a trans leak that the previous owner mentioned to me. I don't know what's leaking now. Looks like two oil leaks, maybe one of them is from the rear seal and the previous owner thought it was a trans leak. I'll jack it up and get a closer look at that later..... |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates.....
Originally Posted by burnout88
(Post 5127789)
Interesting, 85 does have the old 2-piece rear main seal which have been know to leak even on low mileage cars. Hopefully, you will get lucky and maybe it will just be a trans pan gasket. The trans fluid could be really brown in color especially if it is the original fluid and there is a good chance it may actually be the original fluid. Have you checked the color or level on the trans dipstick at all? |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... If one leak is defintely oil a couple of other places to check will be the back of the valve covers. 85 also has the old school valve cover gaskets that like to leak. Another good spot that is often mistaken for a rear main seal leak is the oil pressure sending unit. It is screwed in the very back of the block down next to the distributor on the drivers side. Get your hand down in there and see if you can feel some oil. Got to touch the part that actually screws in. May need someone with small hands to help with this. |
Re: Some '85, yellow IROC, updates..... Sounds like you don't have any good PDR guys in your area. Bring the cars to me in Orlando and I'll fix you up!!!! |
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