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mw66nova 04-02-2011 09:51 PM

best hard radial
 
i'm looking to run this local street tire challenge class a little this summer. the requirements are to run a hard radial tire, have tags/insurance, and drive the car in to the track (no trailers). i'm really only wanting to make one or two events with my car, then put my little brother's car in the class for the rest of the season. basically, the class is filled with a bunch of mid 13 second imports, but there's money involved, and i'd like to take their lunch money.

do you guys have any suggestions? at the moment, the only wheels i have are a set of 16" iroc wheels, though, i'll see if i can scrounge up a set of 15" wheels if need be. so far, i've found a bfg g-force sport with a tread rating 340AA, and they're not too crazy expensive in a 255/50/16 size at just $118/ea

thoughts?

84firebird383 04-02-2011 09:56 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
I doubt they make them any more but eagle st's were the trick back in the early 90's.

mw66nova 04-02-2011 09:58 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
also, in an attempt to keep the car from being a complete crazed lunatic off the line, can i try to do something like put the trans in 2nd and footbrake launch?

1BADRZ28 04-02-2011 10:06 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
Pepboy tires are what the radial guys are running.

mw66nova 04-02-2011 10:07 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
like a futura gls super sport?

DIGGLER 04-02-2011 10:17 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
one of the locals went 7.0's one some tiger paw's awhile back.

1320_Guy 04-03-2011 07:48 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
I had some futuras on my street car. Hooked great for a street tire, but i was only in the mid 13s. I don't think they would work for your car. I don't know how fast your brothers car is. I was running the 295 50 15s.

mw66nova 04-03-2011 08:03 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
bro's car is going to be a mid/bottom 13 second car

xpndbl3 04-03-2011 08:05 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
they limit tire size at all?

mw66nova 04-03-2011 08:09 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
nope, just can't be an R compound

1320_Guy 04-03-2011 08:31 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
They should work for your bothers car then. Your car would just blow them away. Also when they start to get hard may as well buy a new set.

ZONES89RS 04-03-2011 09:00 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
They will fit on factory 16x8s, and i have used them myself, but i am unsure of the compound, i jst remember they were not soft at all and lasted me forever, but search tirerack.com for the 295/50/16 and see what you think Matt. Plenty of contact patch and i think it might be your ticket.

84firebird383 04-03-2011 09:47 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
The trick to racing on a regular radial is to tach it up against the converter then you have to learn what your combo likes as to how fast to put your foot to the floor. I had my 80z28 running 11.8 @ 119 mph in the 1/4 on 235/60/15 firestone Firehawk SS buy learning the finess of the launch.

84firebird383 04-03-2011 09:53 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
There can be a fine line between spinning and going forward and blowing the tires off.

mw66nova 04-04-2011 06:20 AM

Re: best hard radial
 
thanks for all the tips guys! i may have a line on someone who can get me a deal on some futura gls supersports in the 275/60/15 size for my car. i think for jack's car we're going to run a 255/50/16. i have run the 295/50/16 on my car in the past:

http://d1378976.u41.j-angel.com/images/DSC00516.JPG

they were a set of bfg radial t/a's....the 305 ate them for lunch they were so hard.

brandoz28 04-04-2011 05:44 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
i've heard good things about the tiger paws, guys going into the 6's in the 1/8th mile


bet your car would still be able to go mid 11's or quicker even on the hard tires

fenton06 04-07-2011 01:12 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
make sure you take a grinder to the sidewalls to make them a little less stiff... :D

84firebird383 04-07-2011 05:27 PM

Re: best hard radial
 

Originally Posted by fenton06 (Post 4882630)
make sure you take a grinder to the sidewalls to make them a little less stiff... :D

That just sounds dangerous.

mw66nova 04-07-2011 06:46 PM

Re: best hard radial
 

Originally Posted by 84firebird383 (Post 4882878)
That just sounds dangerous.

i think he was being facetious ;)

if not, :eek:

brandoz28 04-08-2011 08:14 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
you wouldn't be the first one to do that........some guys would actually do that for the hard radial heads up stuff.



can't wait to see how this goes, i wish there was something similar close to me

83 Crossfire TA 04-08-2011 09:11 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
Futuras are killer tires, I have some 245 or 255/50 16's on my old formula that I've run really low 1.7's/high 1.6's on. I've also run similar times on old (like 18y/o at the time) eagle zr gatorbacks (16's) and ST's (15's), but the old GT's are worthless. The eagles need some hard burnouts to make them work, the futuras don't need as much of a burnout. on factory 16x8's or 15x7's I ran fastest with all of these tires somewhere in the 28-32psi range.

Newer firestone wide ovals look promising but i haven't run enough passes on them to have any useful numbers, I've run a best of 1.81 on some of these but the car was slow and I could dead hook on them

CamaroSBC360 12-25-2013 09:43 AM

Re: best hard radial
 
Mw66nova what size tire is on the rear of the Camaro in the picture?

CamaroSBC360 12-25-2013 11:23 AM

Re: best hard radial
 
What size tire is on the Camaro in the pic?

mw66nova 12-25-2013 01:27 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
It's in the description above the picture but I'll list it again. 295/50/16

skinny z 12-25-2013 01:42 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
That's a beefy tire. Any shots of the car from a side view (I realize that the installed picture may be 3 years old already)?

CamaroSBC360 12-25-2013 02:39 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
Ok thanks. I like how it sits and looks man. Looks real tough. I have the 16" iroc wheels for my 84 z28. Its a street/ strip car and I'm searching for tires and sizes and what not. Yours is lowered correct?

mw66nova 12-25-2013 03:33 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
That pic is from 2005 lol. Yes the car was lowered. No other pics that I know of.

skinny z 12-25-2013 05:11 PM

Re: best hard radial
 

Originally Posted by mw66nova (Post 5686960)
That pic is from 2005. No other pics that I know of.

No pictures! You don't have all of your 3rd gen photos archived in an album like members of your family?
Hmmmm.
We may have to question your dedication to the 3rd gen cause!

skinny z 12-25-2013 05:20 PM

Re: best hard radial
 
Checking out of that tire size and came across these:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=yes&tab=Specs

A 28" tall drag radial looks to be very interesting for what I hope to do this year.

These too.

http://www.summitracing.com/int/part...794r/overview/

While I've always known about them, I've never seen them on a 3rd gen with IROC rims.
Interesting.


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