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stanley 383 06-04-2017 08:34 PM

434 stroker vortech v7
 
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...fe98029bcc.jpg434 stroker vortech v7 supercharger running holley hp still have some tidying up to do but she's running and sounds awesome going to get it tuned to see what kind of number she's making shortly

86CamaroDan 06-05-2017 03:05 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
jesus. Whats a 434? Bored and stroked 400?

2slow5.0 06-05-2017 09:41 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
That's sweet. Did you do the work yourself? What's the estimated hp?

stanley 383 06-05-2017 11:26 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by 86CamaroDan (Post 6142616)
jesus. Whats a 434? Bored and stroked 400?

it's a dart 400 block bored .030 over with a 4in stroker crank

stanley 383 06-05-2017 11:29 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by 86CamaroDan (Post 6142616)
jesus. Whats a 434? Bored and stroked 400?


Originally Posted by 2slow5.0 (Post 6142764)
That's sweet. Did you do the work yourself? What's the estimated hp?

I pretty much did everythings myself except for machine work and the intercooler piping. If I don't see over 850 to the wheel I'm gonna be pissed

stanley 383 06-05-2017 11:39 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...612d5664d2.jpg3 inch true duals

stanley 383 06-05-2017 11:41 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...6f40b17221.jpgHere's the car

stanley 383 06-05-2017 11:50 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...2c8858b698.jpgBrembo's from 2012 camaro ss on all four corners

IROCZman15 06-06-2017 05:14 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
thats awesome post vids too and dyno numbers

Twin_Turbo 06-06-2017 06:40 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
where did you get those thin wheel adapters/spacers?

Orr89RocZ 06-06-2017 07:09 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
700r4 trans? I dont think it will be happy for long. Should have no problem making those numbers tho on likely 18-20 psi i think depending what heads cam are on it

Tootie Pang 06-06-2017 08:47 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...eda1919ae6.png

stanley 383 06-06-2017 12:58 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
Yeah upgraded the trans from the Mad dog.....it's a beast 700r4...made by animal transmissionshops should hold about 1100hp

stanley 383 06-06-2017 01:02 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ (Post 6142864)
700r4 trans? I dont think it will be happy for long. Should have no problem making those numbers tho on likely 18-20 psi i think depending what heads cam are on it

Heads are afr 235 cnc ported cam it a comp cam custom grind I will post the specs

stanley 383 06-06-2017 01:04 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...8f79c6354d.png

Cam specs ....

stanley 383 06-06-2017 01:06 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
Ebay.....I've had the so long I don't remember the eBay Store name

89gta383 06-06-2017 01:13 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
Is that the stock vortech manual tensioner you are using? If so, then you will have issues trying to get more than 7 lbs out of it. The stock vortech manual tensioner blows chunks.

What blower are you using, ysi? What pulley combo?

I made my own bracket with automatic tensioner and got 12.5lbs, but killed the trans and now the motor is being rebuilt.

stanley 383 06-06-2017 01:36 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
Yes it's a v7ysi as of now I'm using the 10rib with the stock tensioner....I have a few different pulley set ups.... on the car now is a 6in crank and 2.95 on the blower.......I also have the 8in crank pulley still in bubble wrap ......I also have the dual plate system to use the cog pulley but no cogs yet......I'm gonna see what happens with the 10rib system.....b4 I buy cog pulley

Twin_Turbo 06-06-2017 01:49 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by stanley 383 (Post 6142965)
Ebay.....I've had the so long I don't remember the eBay Store name

Do you mean the spacers? Thinnest I can find are 20mm

articwhiteZ 06-06-2017 09:07 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
I'm got a vortec V1 T trim.. with a cog drive..it can put out more then I would ever use..
as for the 700R4..it took $2300 in just Sonnax/TCI hard parts... and cryo treating other parts.. the converter was $700 on top of that..
don't know of any body whos putting all the newest hard parts in the 700R4..but thats also with a trans brake..

Orr89RocZ 06-06-2017 10:15 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
I dont know anyone using a 700r in any high hp setup with success lol. Th400 or 4l80e only. But on the net i have seen posts of buick gn guys using 200r4's well and some vette guys running 4l60e variants into the high 8 low 9 sec range but the price for that trans you can have a 2000 hp capable th400 or 1500 hp ish 80e

articwhiteZ 06-07-2017 12:17 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
have always had them hold up to 500hp to the rear wheels.in the 90s..now will see if it can take a bit more... the big thing now it making it close ratio. with over drive..in the size it is..anybody can take a th400 and add a overdrive..its alot bigger and yes can take 1000hp

but.. that's a th400.. lets see some one make a close ratio 700r4 that ya can beat on..and use the parts made to day..its not cheap..
so your not going to buy one for $1800...lol
and now ya don't have that RPM drop from 1st to 2nd..and 2nd to 3rd...its about time!

today you can buy a 800cid eng making 1200hp on pump gas NA.. no boost or Nitrous...its all about having fun..and having $70.000

stanley 383 06-08-2017 03:34 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
What do you think of the cam specs

articwhiteZ 06-08-2017 07:02 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
1 Attachment(s)
go with a 1.6 ratio on the rockers. as the duration is a bit low on the intake..just me..
remember with the larg cid small blocks..the cid eats up the cam size.. intake a exst duration in the 248/250 with the cid your running will not act like in a 350 383 cid...= will feel like a smaller cam...in a 434...and the sound of the larger small blocks..well youll like it..
the things we do to make things fit
Attachment 314704

Orr89RocZ 06-08-2017 09:09 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
Its alot smaller than what i'd run on those heads and cubes. I'd go 10-12 deg bigger and a 1.6 rocker

stanley 383 05-14-2019 10:26 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
Update I went to the dyno back in September the car put out 926 pound feet of torque only 575 horse at 4600 RPM we did not have big enough injectors to make a full so we stopped after that time I considered upgrading the connecting rods to hold more power during a disassembly noticed that it had to lifted ringlands they were damaged before the dyno

stanley 383 05-14-2019 10:34 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...e2e0017e0a.jpg

stanley 383 05-14-2019 10:34 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
I think that we could have got more horsepower out of it with more tuning on the timing but we felt that it was so dangerous that we should stop until we had enough fuel

stanley 383 05-14-2019 10:38 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
So my plan is to come back bigger and better for the upgrades header size during these pulls was an 1 5/8th

New header 1 7/8th stepped to 2"
New camshaft
1206 port job on intake

Orr89RocZ 05-14-2019 11:35 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
What injectors are in it?

you’ll want something closer to 80-100 lbs hr for gas nearer 900-1000 whp

89gta383 05-14-2019 03:53 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
What crank and blower pulley sizes?

stanley 383 05-15-2019 12:02 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
I'm running a 8-inch on the bottom 2.75 on the top this pull was on 13 lb I'm doing something called at torque booster setup which is popular with the Ford Community I have a wastegate installed on one of the charge pipes and I bleed off boost similar to a turbo setup I'm using a boost controler

stanley 383 05-15-2019 12:03 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ (Post 6302033)
What injectors are in it?

you’ll want something closer to 80-100 lbs hr for gas nearer 900-1000 whp

I had a set of holley 66's at this time I have a set of Holley 83 is now

IROCZman15 05-15-2019 01:31 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
what headers do you plan on using? off the shelf ones or a custom fabricated header?

stanley 383 05-16-2019 12:23 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by IROCZman15 (Post 6302221)
what headers do you plan on using? off the shelf ones or a custom fabricated header?

Just ordered ed quay headers

IROCZman15 05-16-2019 06:28 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by stanley 383 (Post 6302335)
Just ordered ed quay headers



nice Ed Quay. . I think that is going to be my best option too. I live only 2 hours from his shop (and my wifes parents house is only 20 mins from his shop) so theres a chance I might just bring the car there and either have them build them in the shop, or just take measurements and ship them to me. let me know how you like his headers, photos, etc from the info I have read on TGO, his headers seem to be the best big headers that don't sacrifice ground clearance on lowered cars

gta324 05-25-2019 12:47 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
Following :)

First cam looks similar to the one I have right now.

I also ran out of injectors but that issue should be solved now I hope.

/N.

stanley 383 06-03-2019 05:16 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...879ef19cc1.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...95b734f133.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...536ed70fb7.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...c500adbd0a.jpg
new eq quay headers 1 7/8 stepped to 2" 😁😁

stanley 383 06-03-2019 05:21 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
Finish welded. Super happy with the workmanship

IROCZman15 06-04-2019 08:07 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by stanley 383 (Post 6306140)
Finish welded. Super happy with the workmanship


looks awesome. will you be ceramic-coating them? whats a ballpark price? $800 or so?

IROCZ1989 06-05-2019 08:02 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
:thumbsup:

stanley 383 06-05-2019 09:43 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by IROCZman15 (Post 6306371)
looks awesome. will you be ceramic-coating them? whats a ballpark rice? $800 or so?

I paid 860 I'm going to cerakote them should work well from all the reviews

IROCZman15 06-06-2019 08:56 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by stanley 383 (Post 6306451)
I paid 860 I'm going to cerakote them should work well from all the reviews


good! great! exactly what I was hoping to hear. nice work man

DynoDave43 06-09-2019 05:11 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
Those are pretty!

antoine 06-12-2019 11:47 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by articwhiteZ (Post 6143152)
I'm got a vortec V1 T trim.. with a cog drive..it can put out more then I would ever use..
as for the 700R4..it took $2300 in just Sonnax/TCI hard parts... and cryo treating other parts.. the converter was $700 on top of that..
don't know of any body whos putting all the newest hard parts in the 700R4..but thats also with a trans brake..

I hope your transmission last because you have spent alot of money on it.

CHRISMAN2000 06-15-2019 11:51 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
Do you think the stealth ram is choking the system? A lot of guys are running large single plane set up.
Your set up looks great. I'd love to run something like this someday too.
Who did the exhaust?

IROCZ1989 06-17-2019 06:43 AM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 
I think the stealth ram like the miniram is ok to about 63-6500 rpm on a NA big cube. Supercharged I wouldn't know. My builder has a custom ported miniram by the owner of AFR. Was tested at 415cfm. But it's on a 450 sbc.

stanley 383 06-17-2019 08:02 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by CHRISMAN2000 (Post 6308367)
Do you think the stealth ram is choking the system? A lot of guys are running large single plane set up.
Your set up looks great. I'd love to run something like this someday too.
Who did the exhaust?

A buddy of mine pretty much made the adjustments to the Speed Engineering 4th gen kit

stanley 383 06-17-2019 08:04 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by CHRISMAN2000 (Post 6308367)
Do you think the stealth ram is choking the system? A lot of guys are running large single plane set up.
Your set up looks great. I'd love to run something like this someday too.
Who did the exhaust?

I was thinking that I was going to have issues with the stealth Ram but I know a few people making the thousand horsepower Turbo with the stealth Ram he was running slightly smaller cubic inch and only a 1205 Port job

stanley 383 06-17-2019 08:05 PM

Re: 434 stroker vortech v7
 

Originally Posted by CHRISMAN2000 (Post 6308367)
Do you think the stealth ram is choking the system? A lot of guys are running large single plane set up.
Your set up looks great. I'd love to run something like this someday too.
Who did the exhaust?

I believe my biggest restriction was my headers it was only a 1 and 5/8 tube


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