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StCr19 06-14-2001 11:18 PM

Tube frame
 
This is a pretty hypothetical question because I will probably never be able to afford a tube frame.

Anyway, can you have a tube frame custom built so that you retain a stock appearance inside and outside of your car? All the tube frames I see are built to accomodate huge rear meats and thus eliminate the back seat.

ede 06-15-2001 06:25 AM

hell yes if you can afford it you can get anything done/made for you car. i bet if you had enough time and money you could get it to run 10's on a 9 volt battery.

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R.C. Righter 06-15-2001 08:45 AM

10's may be a bit ambitious on a single 9 volt battery ...

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AlkyIROC 06-15-2001 08:43 PM

Tube frame cars are a big step away from street driven vehicles. The main purpose of a tube frame (other than a back half) is to eliminate weight. This is done by putting the entire vehicle strength into the frame. All the body parts are then hung off the frame for appearance only. They offer no strength to the car itself. By hanging the body parts off the frame they only need to be connected by simple brackets and a few bolts. Weight is removed by changing body sections such as the unibody floor to a simple 1 piece section of sheet metal instead of a multipiece with gussets and brackets to make it strong.

To get an idea what a typical complete tube frame would cost, price out a frame for a Super Gas car. That's about what you would need.

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Jza 06-15-2001 10:25 PM

unless the 9 volt battery was igniting a bomb or rocket on the back of the car.. https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/smile.gif

and to try and answer the question, i highly doubt it since they're unibody cars, to keep the appearance inside and out would require pretty much leaving it all there.

B430 06-16-2001 12:30 PM

this may be off topic, but i once saw this thing for mustangs that was like a roll cage but with small tubing and it's purpose was to stiffen the car. does anyone make anything like this for F-bodys and could something like that be hidden?

B430 06-16-2001 12:32 PM

i found a pic: http://www.kennybrown.com/flyergif/superstreet.gif
and they do make them for f-bodys but not sure if they're for 3rd or 4th gen, probobly 4th.

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LottaBallsCamaro 06-16-2001 03:55 PM

That's not a tube frame, that's a 6point roll cage. You could also incorprate an IRS and SLA front suspension. AWD woud become possible to....supergas rolling chassis' cost about 3500.

Apeiron 06-16-2001 04:58 PM

Steve Spohn has S&W Racecars cages for third and fourth gens.


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