What do you all think? Useful or Gimmick?
 

I found these on Spohn's web site. On the surface, they seem to be useful but then I started thinking about having never heard of a shock binding.

No-Bind lower shock relocation mounts

It has some pictures of how it mounts and again, I can see in theory how it might help. But again, I've never even read about rear shock bind.

Thoughts?

Re: What do you all think? Useful or Gimmick?
 

sbd-

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Um...yeah, not sure what that means. lol

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It means subscribed, he wants to see what people say.


I am curious as well, Ive never heard of shock bind nor have I ever seen someone make their own copies of these brackets. Spohn has another weird product out now, the pivoting sway bar end links. I thought you want those to be stiff.

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Of course shocks bind. Any time you have a rubber bush in something that flexes it binds. But compared to all the other stuff it's very minor. I don't see the point of just turning the stock rubber bush through 90 degrees. If you wanted to eliminate bind you'd need a spherical bearing at each end of the shock. Maybe only a super fine tuning detail but it would look cool.

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Same goes for the sway bar end links. Ideally they would all be spherical bearings too.

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I would say no.

I would expect there to be more misalignment from the axle raising or lowering on one side than you would see it rotation front to back because of the length of the torque arm.

I dont see any real benefit. But curious what other more knowledgeable people think.

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Not Worth It.

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Thinking of how the axle moves: the stock set up seems better for roll only but this set up may be better for flat (no roll) up/down movement. But looks like you just slightly change which way it binds. Can't see any bang for the buck.

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We sell the lower shock relocation kit which is actually the bottom part of our coilover kit.

There is some rotational movement of the axle and theoretically there is some binding there. Some guys like to get rid of that binding and we do sell a small number of kits just for this purpose. Huge difference? No. Minor difference and optimization? Yes.

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The movement here is insignificant on a well sorted car with limited suspension movement due to firmness of springs and sway bars. I prefer the north/south OEM bolt position because it aids in lateral articulation of the axle.

A test for anyone- simply bolt in the bottom mount of the rear shock and see what kind of play you have already with the OEM mount....not needed. Just adding unsprung weight.

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kinda makes sense to me, the shock is mounted with a bolt that cant move at all when the rear end moves up and down, but this will enable the shock to pivot on the bolt, should work!

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they are just copying what Ford did on the Mustang GT in the late 80's, but i think they quit using that type of mount in favor of the cheaper and easier to assemble "bolt in a hole" mounting point that everyone else was using with their new body style in 94.

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I am totally on board with you. I've seen tehse before, and you're just switching acceleration/braking binding with binding in corners by rotating it.

The rubber bushing allows movement in all directions, it's fine. They designed it that way so that it could handle all the articulations of hte rear axle. If you never turn, I think these are great.