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crazy3rdgen 10-06-2005 05:53 PM

Tensioner bolt broke at the pulley! help!
 
Well, i went to change the alternator, did the usually, disconect batt, then go to the tensioner and get that belt off. Well as i did so, i didnt have enough play in the belt to get it off the alt, so I went alittle more then felt the bolt start to slip out of place as if it was loosing its torque inside the thread and then BAM hands went flying ratchet fell and bolt on the ground. I have the pulley/bearing off, and that little metal peice that serves as a big washer for the bolt on the end. What should I do? I looked an the whole tensioner assembly braket wraps around the whole 1 side of the engine. Maybe an easy out on the broken bolt

Supervisor42 10-06-2005 06:45 PM

Re: Tensioner bolt broke at the pulley! help!
 

Originally posted by crazy3rdgen
Well, i went to change the alternator, .... Maybe an easy out on the broken bolt
Can't tell if you're working on the V6 or 350. If the tensioner runs on the backside of the belt (most do) then it will have a left hand threaded bolt. Good luck finding a right-handed ez-out. Usually the part that pivots with the spring is removable since it vibrates with the A/C compressor. I'd replace the tensioner arm as an assembly.

crazy3rdgen 10-06-2005 07:45 PM

workin on a 350 tpi. The tensioner itself has a star bolt in the middle which I think If i unbolt will then shoot the spring and will be dangerous. It's very hard to get in there, I think I may have to pull the radiator to get a straight angle at the bolt. SO what do you mean? If I was to put a bolt in then I would put it in couter clockwise for it to screw?

Supervisor42 10-06-2005 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by crazy3rdgen
workin on a 350 tpi. ...If I was to put a bolt in then I would put it in couter clockwise for it to screw?
You should have been turning it counterclockwise when it broke, which would have just loosened the bolt if it had been RH thread Right?
The star bolt that holds the tensioner on will be REALLY tight. If you get a star tool at Autozone don't get the set of one-piece bits. THEY BREAK! Spend the bux and get the single bit the correct size. The tensioner (if it looks like this) is an assembly that won't fly apart. If you're not sure ask the parts guy to show you one (that's free).
It looks like this right?

crazy3rdgen 10-06-2005 11:46 PM

Yeah exactley, now if I was to loosen that star and get the tensioner off the tensioners spring load wouldnt be changed or anything/fly off and hurt me would it?

crazy3rdgen 10-06-2005 11:53 PM

and yes I was turning it left, So i dont get it. Why would they want you to turn the tensioner to the left to release the belt and then run into loosening the bolt by accident on the pulley.

Spdfrk1990 10-07-2005 12:08 AM

You stick a 1/2 in ratchet in that square hole up top and then turn left to get the belt off the torx is to remove the whole tensioner.

Elthesh 10-07-2005 01:59 AM

Excuse me if I'm mistaken, but it sounds like you were turning the Torx bolt to loosen the tension on the belt? If so, that's a huge no no. As the post above me says, you need a 1/2 inch ratcher/breaker bar inserted in the little offshoot hole and then pull it left, or more precisely towards the passenger side. Once the belt is off, the tensioner should have no tension and then and only then should the torx bolt be removed to remove the tensioner.

crazy3rdgen 10-07-2005 09:21 AM

i kno that now:o damn i'm a retard

wrightz28 10-07-2005 09:55 AM

yeah, not rubbing it in or anything, but thatta bees what the square is for. You get a hole lot more and reliable leverage against the spring, and your hands, and rest of your body that may come in contact with a flying tool will be much happier using this the right way.

Don't feel bad, at least you didn't give your self a black eye in the process. I had hours of fun with friend that did the same thing but wasn't furtunate enough to dodge the rapidly airborne wrench after doing the same thing:D

Supervisor42 10-07-2005 06:06 PM


Originally posted by crazy3rdgen
and yes I was turning it left, So i dont get it. Why would they want you to turn the tensioner to the left to release the belt and then run into loosening the bolt by accident on the pulley.
No, what I was saying is the bolt is left hand thread. Turning it to the left tightens it. If it was right hand you would have just broken it loose instead of breaking it off.

Spdfrk1990 10-07-2005 06:15 PM

I dont remember mine being reverse threads when I took it off.

Supervisor42 10-07-2005 06:37 PM

To clarify:
The bolt he broke is the bolt in the center of the pulley. Most of them are left hand thread. He was twisting it to the left (tightening) to release the tension on the belt when it broke.
The star bolt that holds the tensioner onto the bracket is right hand thread.

Spdfrk1990 10-07-2005 07:03 PM

I thought he broke the star bolt?

Supervisor42 10-07-2005 07:34 PM

Re: Tensioner bolt broke at the pulley! help!
 
Read the first post:

Originally posted by crazy3rdgen
... and then BAM hands went flying ratchet fell and bolt on the ground. I have the pulley/bearing off, and that little metal peice that serves as a big washer for the bolt on the end.
He didn't have a 1/2" ratchet handy and just put a wrench on the bolt in the middle of the pulley.

Spdfrk1990 10-07-2005 07:45 PM

What i understood was when he was loosening the pulley bolt the star bolt broke that holds the tensioner so it was just weak but he still was not doing it the correct way.

Supervisor42 10-07-2005 07:57 PM

Then he wrote this a few posts LATER...

Originally posted by crazy3rdgen
Yeah exactley, now if I was to loosen that star and get the tensioner off the tensioners spring load wouldnt be changed or anything/fly off and hurt me would it?

Red Devil 10-07-2005 09:29 PM

:lol: I'm sorry, I just can't help it. I SWEAR I thought it was Mikey posting again.

crazy3rdgen 10-07-2005 10:03 PM

Nope didnt brake the star bolt spdfrk, u miss understood its cool. WHat i did was the bolt on the pulley itself broke when i tried to use that and go left with it to relieve the tension and that broke. So the pulley slid off on its own. Problem solved, I went to the junkyard and got a whole nother tensioner, just got on the star bolt and it came right off, wa hoo.

Supervisor42 10-07-2005 10:18 PM


Originally posted by crazy3rdgen
... Problem solved, I went...
Damn! We were just starting to have fun:mad:

Spdfrk1990 10-07-2005 10:42 PM

By the way that bolt is standard threads I had mine off no reason to make it reverse since there is a bearing.

JOEM 07-05-2013 10:46 PM

Re: Tensioner bolt broke at the pulley! help!
 
T-50 Torx bolt standard right hand thread. Take the belt off and it backs right off.

Tuned Performance 07-05-2013 11:46 PM

Re: Tensioner bolt broke at the pulley! help!
 
You do know you woke up a 8year old dead thread :)

JOEM 07-06-2013 12:23 AM

Re: Tensioner bolt broke at the pulley! help!
 

Originally Posted by Tuned Performance (Post 5594690)
You do know you woke up a 8year old dead thread :)

Yes I do! LOL There was allot of talk and not any mention of the size tork bolt socket. It is slightly larger than a T-50 but smaller than the T-60 and I don't know if there is an in-between size.

Tuned Performance 07-06-2013 12:45 AM

Re: Tensioner bolt broke at the pulley! help!
 

Originally Posted by JOEM (Post 5594701)
Yes I do! LOL There was allot of talk and not any mention of the size tork bolt socket. It is slightly larger than a T-50 but smaller than the T-60 and I don't know if there is an in-between size.

T55 would be a mid way size and I suppose you have never heard of a t500 but that's smaller than 50 ! but like the thread states unless you are replacing the tensioner pulley witch is not a torx there is no need to remove it unless you are replacing the tensioner spring assembly.
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88bullet 03-11-2020 08:04 PM

Re: Tensioner bolt broke at the pulley! help!
 
Sorry to jump on this thread didn't know where else to go I was trying to replace the tensioner star bit Bolt for a cleaner appearance with the rest of my ARP bolts but none will fit in the hole and be able to get a socket on it can you run just a longer bolt with a washer on the under side of the bolt head against the tensioner and it still be okay that way instead of having to use the star head bolt that just looks ugly black and rusty lol. just got through putting in a 427 and cleaning everything up in their wanted something nice ...thanks
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