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0pyders 08-16-2011 11:20 PM

timing on 350 with 305 heads
 
My carb and distributor are computer controlled.
Should I just time the engine with what the sticker says on my hood and let the computer take care of the rest or should I bump it down a couple degrees since the compression's a little higher than stock?

Orr89RocZ 08-17-2011 12:03 AM

Re: timing on 350 with 305 heads
 
Compression is gonna be higher so I'd maybe look at bumping it down alittle for now and see how it likes it. IF you had datalogging equipment you can monitor for knock counts or spark retard. You can also add premium 93 gas to be safer.

Seven_MPG 08-17-2011 12:33 AM

Re: timing on 350 with 305 heads
 
Is there any advantage in running 305 heads on a 350?

gwarren007 08-17-2011 01:16 AM

Re: timing on 350 with 305 heads
 
not really. You get a bump in compression (up to ~10:1, but then you get smaller valves for less top end. A better bet would be aluminum L98 heads or vortecs.

GTA Sammy 08-17-2011 01:57 AM

Re: timing on 350 with 305 heads
 
You can find World S/R Torquer 305 heads with the 1.94/1.50" valves and 170cc Intake runners and good exhaust ports...
with a max lift of .560"! You won't get that out of a stock head...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WRL-042650-1/

I had a pair that I was gonna throw on my 350 (once upon a time)
But I decided to spend the extra $$$ and went with the AFR's instead...
I don't think that you can go wrong... especially if you have them already!

or do you have stock 305 heads...?

84ws6ta 08-17-2011 03:03 AM

Re: timing on 350 with 305 heads
 
If you are running the stock comuputer controlled distributor, there is no adjustment in timing that you can make. The stock setting is not going to hurt the engine. The compression ratio depends on size of the combustion chambers, type of pistons, decking of the block and thickness of the head gaskets used. Some 305s had 58cc chambers, while others used 60cc chambers. So depending on the combination, you may be at 9.5:1 or 10:1 or something else. The stock 305 L69 (G) engines were 9.5:1 compression and ran fine on 91 octane. You will see a bit more power with the 350 lower end, but you won't get full advantage of it until you put on 350 heads with larger valves.

Orr89RocZ 08-17-2011 08:24 AM

Re: timing on 350 with 305 heads
 
You can still set base timing lower than stock which will affect timing across the board.

0pyders 08-17-2011 11:19 AM

Re: timing on 350 with 305 heads
 
I know using 305 heads on a 350 isn't the smartest move but it's all I had and this whole project is pretty much just about learning and not spending a ton of money because I didn't want to ruin any nice parts lol. Next time I'll just get a new crate 350 and drop it in, much easier.

More on the 305 head thing: I read that it increases a little bit of low end torque but craps out on you at like 4500 rpm. (I guess it makes sense because of the higher compression/smaller valves part).

Sonix 08-17-2011 11:23 AM

Re: timing on 350 with 305 heads
 

Originally Posted by Seven_MPG (Post 5012008)
Is there any advantage in running 305 heads on a 350?

Depends on what 350 heads you're comparing it to. They have smaller chambers and arguably better ports than the '70s smog heads. They have more meat to port, and when done up, can be a very competitive head. I run 416 305 castings on my 350.

Code1racing 01-17-2012 08:41 PM

Re: timing on 350 with 305 heads
 

Originally Posted by Sonix (Post 5012261)
Depends on what 350 heads you're comparing it to. They have smaller chambers and arguably better ports than the '70s smog heads. They have more meat to port, and when done up, can be a very competitive head. I run 416 305 castings on my 350.

I run the very same 416 cast heads on my 350 & man do I love it. With a decent cam youll be very impressed. It even ripped my "bullet proof" 700r4 to shreads. Because of that Im using my tax money to get a bowtie overdrive stage 3 700r4.


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