2-Post Lift owners - need your help Hey Guys, trying to plan where I will place 2 post lift in garage. My question is when your Thirdgen is on the lift, how far is the top edge of the windshield from the center of your lift support beam? I'm not sure if there is a better measurement to provide, but this seemed like a good place for all cars regardless if camaro/firebird. Thanks for your help, just had my garage scanned for rebar yesterday and this is starting to get real! |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help Hey there, just curious what manufacturer of 2 post lift your going with? I've been thinking of getting one myself - good luck with your project, and post up some pics as you move forward with your install |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help I highly considering ATLAS BP8000: https://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-BP8000 not sure what can stop me now, getting concrete cores drilled on Monday and over to the lab for testing ASAP. Don't know history of garage or concrete so I'm doing testing. My wife seems to think my life is worth the drilling/test fees. I did find this one https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...61c27bb8-1.jpg |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by LiquidBlue
(Post 6277493)
I highly considering ATLAS BP8000: https://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-BP8000 not sure what can stop me now, getting concrete cores drilled on Monday and over to the lab for testing ASAP. Don't know history of garage or concrete so I'm doing testing. My wife seems to think my life is worth the drilling/test fees. I did find this one |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help Rough Visio sketch. Trying to plan where trusses will be cut to make room for roof. Blue area represents points of car that are at spoiler height. May be able to squeeze it between 5 trusses, and will need to cut 4 of them for max lift. Black line represents approximate center of gravity of car. drawings will eventually be sent to structural engineer for analysis and design. Or, I could just skip all this and get started on building a real garage in the back yard! https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...7834829d59.jpg |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help Not sure if you have looked at Dannmar I have the 10acx it has the wide set posts that are also set at a 30 deg angle so you can open the doors farther. The key feature I like is how the lift cylinder's are setup. It does not use lift chains. I got it in 2015 for about $2300 delivered it also is a certified lift. To me it was worth the extra $800 over the Atlas lift I was looking at |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help Mine is a 9000lb asymmetric lift with shorter lift arms up front. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...3e2e4f1b6f.jpg |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by LiquidBlue
(Post 6277590)
Rough Visio sketch. Trying to plan where trusses will be cut to make room for roof. Blue area represents points of car that are at spoiler height. May be able to squeeze it between 5 trusses, and will need to cut 4 of them for max lift. Black line represents approximate center of gravity of car. drawings will eventually be sent to structural engineer for analysis and design. Or, I could just skip all this and get started on building a real garage in the back yard! https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...7834829d59.jpg |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help It depends on if you go for a symmetric lift or an asymmetric lift. I own a shop and have used both, but all mine are asymmetric lifts. My newest is a Bendpak 10k asymmetric with low profile arms. One thing about the asymmetric lift is that the car is positioned such that both doors will fully open when on the lift. With most cars you put the side mirror about even with the post but with the third gen having such a large beak on it, the side mirror is about 10 inches behind the post. I like my 10k Bendpak. I found one of the VP's over on Garage Journal and was able to order factory direct at the friend's and family discount. Just under $3k with truck adaptors. Free shipping. They are easy to setup - even by yourself. The Bendpak has the posts set at 45 degrees allowing the arms to fold back farther out of the way. It's extremely asymmetric with the front arms almost perpendicular to the car. Works really well if you need to open the doors. GD |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help Do you have an engineer designing how to cut and support the trusses? I'm sure you know they work as a unit - cut them and they are rendered useless. |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by PurelyPMD
(Post 6277846)
Do you have an engineer designing how to cut and support the trusses? I'm sure you know they work as a unit - cut them and they are rendered useless. how to "re-brace" the roof trusses to accommodate the "notch" in the ceiling of the garage without compromising the overall strength of the roof. It can be done but finding a structural engineer to draw up the plans is the hard part and probably pretty costly too |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by PurelyPMD
(Post 6277846)
Do you have an engineer designing how to cut and support the trusses? I'm sure you know they work as a unit - cut them and they are rendered useless. |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by MSgt Luttrell
(Post 6277729)
Mine is a 9000lb asymmetric lift with shorter lift arms up front. Thanks for photo - what is make/model of your lift? The Atlas BP8000 is "super symetric" what ever that means. |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by GeneralDisorder
(Post 6277793)
With most cars you put the side mirror about even with the post but with the third gen having such a large beak on it, the side mirror is about 10 inches behind the post.GD |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by LiquidBlue
(Post 6277888)
I'm a bit confused on symetric -vs- asymetric. Read that only a true asymetric must have the posts anchored at angle. In any regard, it seems the center of gravity of the car remains the same, so if you want to shift CG around, it will transfer more weight of the car to the front/rear arm of the lift. This is the part I don't really understand. I get that it allows you to open door more, but it seems unequally distributed weight is going to cause one side of the lift to support more weight than the other, and your concrete/bolts better be up to the job. Is this what is going on? Or are asymetric simply designed for cars that have 60/40 weight distribution, simple as that? Thanks for photo - what is make/model of your lift? The Atlas BP8000 is "super symetric" what ever that means. Mine is a 9,000 lb. Blue Clear Floor Two Post Asymmetric Lift . Here is a pretty good article that may help clear it up for you. https://www.gregsmithequipment.com/A...Two-Post-Lifts |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by LiquidBlue
(Post 6277889)
Is this with symetric lift? The lifts are engineered to do this. With between 25% and 33% of the vehicle in front of the post. All my lifts are this way and it's not a problem even for large trucks. The lift arms are designed to hold the weight. If I get a chance I'll snap a pic when I have my car on one of the lifts. You do need proper concrete. But if the garage floor is inadequate you can simply cut out a section and pour proper footings for the lift anchor points. I would use the opportunity to put in a pit as well. This gives the advantage of working with the suspension loaded. Make sure whatever you buy is ALI certified. Your insurance may not cover any unfortunate accidents if it is not. GD |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by LiquidBlue
(Post 6277493)
I highly considering ATLAS BP8000: https://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-BP8000 not sure what can stop me now, getting concrete cores drilled on Monday and over to the lab for testing ASAP. Don't know history of garage or concrete so I'm doing testing. My wife seems to think my life is worth the drilling/test fees. I did find this one https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...61c27bb8-1.jpg |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by TTOP350
(Post 6277939)
That's my junk! |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by BizJetTech
(Post 6277942)
Pretty cool junk !!.....and garage |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by TTOP350
(Post 6277939)
That's my junk, lift arms are like a mu11et, short in the front and long in rear |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by LiquidBlue
(Post 6277951)
One mans trash, another mans treasure! What type of lift are you using? |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by daferris
(Post 6277725)
Not sure if you have looked at Dannmar I have the 10acx it has the wide set posts that are also set at a 30 deg angle so you can open the doors farther. The key feature I like is how the lift cylinder's are setup. It does not use lift chains. I got it in 2015 for about $2300 delivered it also is a certified lift. To me it was worth the extra $800 over the Atlas lift I was looking at |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help This is a good photo to show how the posts are set "twisted" so you can open the doors farther. Because of how the posts are set the front arms are shorter than the back ones. This is because the center of gravity point is behind the posts not in line with them. I also suggest downloading and looking at the installation manual for whatever hoist you decide on BEFORE you order it. It will have the information you will need for planning the instal. Using a cherry picker hoist and a strap I was able to set the posts myself. But I have a very tall barn (16') for working in... This is the link to the hoist I have... https://dannmar.com/car-lifts/two-po.../d-10-acx.html This is where I got mine from... at least in 2015 I go a better price calling them... https://www.asedeals.com/store/dannm...igadier-10acx/ https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...68755c4c98.jpg |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help Got concrete cores drilled and dropped off at lab. Starting to think it would have been cheaper to just have someone come in and put in known footers/pad to hold lift. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...9e68f06f18.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...8d7f736274.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...488b2a423f.jpg |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help You've got quite the project going there - might be cheaper to build a new garage :lmao: |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by BizJetTech
(Post 6278559)
You've got quite the project going there - might be cheaper to build a new garage :lmao: |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help Step 2 complete! Gotta say, I知 not real comfortable under there. Must take some getting used to https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...a31f67f6f.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...b1deda662.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...b5eda53e6.jpeg |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help You get used to it. Here's mine on one of the old 7k's - I snapped some pics of the asymmetric nature for this thread a while ago then forgot. LoL: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...cc58a0d6bf.jpg GD |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help Wow! That IS A symmetric! I was told to shake car by the tires once a bit off the ground and see if it feels stable. How much should it shake. It moves as if the suspension was in play, but feels like it is secure |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help They move for sure. You can usually shake a car pretty good by a few inches. It's normal. These are pretty old asymmetric lifts. Circa 1993 or so. But my Bendpak 10k I bought two years ago is similar with my third gen on it. GDt |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by LiquidBlue
(Post 6284681)
Step 2 complete! Gotta say, I知 not real comfortable under there. Must take some getting used to https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...a31f67f6f.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...b1deda662.jpeg |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by BizJetTech
(Post 6284720)
Ummmm, well......I've never seen THAT done before......are you prepared for roof leaks ?? |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help Don't forget to use a good thick bead of sealant for that bucket to roof seal! |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by TTOP350
(Post 6284724)
Don't forget to use a good thick bead of sealant for that bucket to roof seal! |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by LiquidBlue
(Post 6284721)
Put a Home Depot bucket over it is step 3 !
Originally Posted by TTOP350
(Post 6284724)
Don't forget to use a good thick bead of sealant for that bucket to roof seal! |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by LiquidBlue
(Post 6284681)
Step 2 complete! Gotta say, I知 not real comfortable under there. Must take some getting used to https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...a31f67f6f.jpeg That's a bold strategy cotton. |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help I never got comfortable with how cars bounced around up on a 2-post. You get used to it, but I never got comfortable. A couple of these take the bounce right out of it, and are worth their weight in gold, IMO. |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by DynoDave43
(Post 6284894)
I never got comfortable with how cars bounced around up on a 2-post. You get used to it, but I never got comfortable. A couple of these take the bounce right out of it, and are worth their weight in gold, IMO. https://www.amazon.com/Goplus-Reach-...SIN=B078PX6CZT |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by LiquidBlue
(Post 6284922)
Was looking at these. How many do you need and where do you place them? |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help
Originally Posted by BadHabit
(Post 6284946)
We have two of them at the shop. I hardly ever use them but if it needs an extra bit of safety, I値l stick one under the front crossmember or rear diff, or either bumper, if there is a solid one available. Peace of mind. |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help Ours are screw jack style. Fully adjustable. |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help We use those when running the car on the lift to prevent it from shaking when changing gears or applying the brakes, etc. You think having it in the air is uncomfortable - have an assistant run it up to 100 mph while fully over your head to check the wheel bearings. LOL. GD |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help step 3 complete. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...3fd7a171b.jpeg |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help :lmao: That's a creative solution to your problem |
Re: 2-Post Lift owners - need your help That's a pretty good idea, can also help vent nasty fumes |
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