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superiroc 03-06-2001 07:03 PM

A true cold air intake that works, ditch that factory box.
 
I know there has been alot of people looking for a better intake design and i finaly have pics of mine. I used 3 inch pvc pipe and test fitted it and then glued it all. I due have a 3 inch hole wedged in by the canister that goes straight down to a big cone k&n filter. If you want to get fancy you could make a scoop under the spoiler. My car has 2 electric fans, i had to cut the one bracket off the fan and fab up a medal one to allow room for the plumbing. You could run something down the outer fender if you don't want to put a 3 inch hole in. I'am working on a CAI that goes into the fender down to the spoiler if anyones interested drop me an email. mmb199@psu.edu
pics @ www.personal.psu.edu/m/m/mmb199/pics1.htm

superiroc 03-06-2001 07:05 PM

www.personal.psu.edu/users/m/m/mmb199/pics1.htm

85F-body 03-06-2001 08:36 PM

is that a tbi system and also what all do you have on your car it looks bad *** including the rims what kind are they

RARE-ROC-Z 03-06-2001 11:09 PM

superiroc.. is that a HARWOOD 2-3" cowl.
and your rims stick out too much. but everything else looks great. that is the first white camaro i have ever REALLY liked. i normally dont like them. but that is sharp. what did you do to the GRILLE. it is flat now, and it doesnt have the insert there. i know you arent done with your car, but keep us up to date with some new mods. it looks great. and i even for some odd reason like the lingenfelter sticker. normally i wouldnt. but i akwardly do. just my .02

Jarrad

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1990 IROC-Z L98/G92 350 TPI
too much to list!!
5,507 IROC's; 2,415 5.7L IROC's Produced in 1990
Dare to be DIFFERENT,
DAILY DRIVER: 1991 S10 2.5L/5SPD WITH CAMARO RIMS
MUSTANGS...ONLY 4 LUGS....HAHA THAT IS HILARIOUS.

superiroc 03-07-2001 01:55 AM

that is a harwood 2.5 cowl hood.I wanted 17x11 rims in the back so i can live with them sticking out. Check out my web page to see my mods. No thats not a tbi setup!
www.personal.psu.edu/users/m/m/mmb199/

superiroc 03-07-2001 01:58 AM

I had the grill removed, When i get the car painted there will be no stickers or stripes. Everything will be filled in and smooth, then it will all look very sharp and clean and when i get my turbos the intercooler will look very racy in the front.

vortech305 03-07-2001 10:46 AM

U must be Loaded to have your camaro done like that. By the way did lingenfelter do the work to your motor. I like the ZR1 rims, but i rather get the alluminum looking ones. what size tires are those and what brand.

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92' camaro
New 305 block TPI conversion, Flat top pistons,Bore over .30 Forged parts all around,Edelbrock intake,ported plennum,ported corvette alluminum heads, accel cam,52mm throttle bodie, SLP runners Home aid cold air induction, Air foil,ford SVO 19lb injectors,fuel regulator,cloys timing chain, comp alluminum roller rocker arms and pushrods MSD 8.5 mm wires, bosch plattinum plugs, hypertech cap & rotor and coil, Edelbrock TES headers, free flowing catalytic converter and a 3 inch force II flowmaster exhaust system, and a 3 inch cutout,Zoom multi friction clutch, T-5 tranny,billenstien shocks&struts.
Soon to come!!!
Procharger system 12lbs o boost.
New paint job(hawaiin orchid purple)Cast alluminum ZR1 rims w/ 275 tires.
Favorite quote: "where ever u go, there u are"

Other car;
1971 plymouth Duster
Mods:340,edelbrock victor jr. intake, 650 4 barrel holley, heddman headers,40 series dual flowmasters, cold air intake,4:10 gears, just got a new paint job and cragar rims with 315 tires in the back.
:Yeah its not a chevy but damn how many 71' dusters have u seen in the streets.

superiroc 03-07-2001 11:57 AM

Lingenfelter just sold me the super ram, Those are 17x9.5 and 17x11 with yokahoma ao32 tires 275s and 315-35-17

355 IROC-Z 03-07-2001 01:19 PM

damn that is a nice car. let me know when you are goin to race at BSD and i will make a special trip just to see that car in person.

superiroc 03-07-2001 04:10 PM

I will let you know when i go. I should have a 150 shot for spring and am gunning for 10s

85F-body 03-07-2001 08:17 PM

well if it is'nt a tbi what kinda plenum is that if that is one i have seen those kinda engins before but did'nt know what kind it was

superiroc 03-07-2001 08:31 PM

TBI is a throttle body injectioun or factory fi they put on some of the 305. I have an aftermarket tpi called a super ram. I also have an accel intake base. This super ram is much better then factory tpi and makes tbi look like junk.

vortech305 03-08-2001 11:49 AM

How much did those yokohamas cost for each tire. Im diggin the treads on them.

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92' camaro
New 305 block TPI conversion, Flat top pistons,Bore over .30 Forged parts all around,Edelbrock intake,ported plennum,ported corvette alluminum heads, accel cam,52mm throttle bodie, SLP runners Home aid cold air induction, Air foil,ford SVO 19lb injectors,fuel regulator,cloys timing chain, comp alluminum roller rocker arms and pushrods MSD 8.5 mm wires, bosch plattinum plugs, hypertech cap & rotor and coil, Edelbrock TES headers, free flowing catalytic converter and a 3 inch force II flowmaster exhaust system, and a 3 inch cutout,Zoom multi friction clutch, T-5 tranny,billenstien shocks&struts.
Soon to come!!!
Procharger system 12lbs o boost.
New paint job(hawaiin orchid purple)Cast alluminum ZR1 rims w/ 275 tires.
Favorite quote: "where ever u go, there u are"

Other car;
1971 plymouth Duster
Mods:340,edelbrock victor jr. intake, 650 4 barrel holley, heddman headers,40 series dual flowmasters, cold air intake,4:10 gears, just got a new paint job and cragar rims with 315 tires in the back.
:Yeah its not a chevy but damn how many 71' dusters have u seen in the streets.

BigChevy342 03-08-2001 01:26 PM

Hey SuperIroc, i was curious, with the ram air system how is water prevented from entering the tpi, like if you were to hit a water puddle or rain, perhaps, would the air elemnt prevent that or is there some type of screen or filter at the bottom where the air comes in. I was just curious because i like your setup and i want to do that for my pickup, but i dont want to spend $150 doing it.
91 chevy p/u/350/3.73, 86 iroc 305/tpi

superz 03-08-2001 03:45 PM

Hey sweet car. that tire and rim combo is the one i wanted to run. could those 17x11 rear rims be offset to fit closer to the car? i think they look cool, but i want mine to set in more. on mine i want the tire to be about 1 inch inside the lip of the fender, is there room for that? also how do they hook? in the future i plan on building a 383, i'm shooting for 425-450 horse. do you think those tires could put that down without much wheelspin? i'll be runnin a manual tranny. i'm tryin to build my camaro to accelerate fast enough to make people vomit, but i still want it to handle and was just curious how they hookup.

[This message has been edited by superz (edited March 08, 2001).]

85F-body 03-08-2001 09:40 PM

are there zr-1 low profiles that are 16x8? or what are the sizes

superiroc 03-10-2001 08:07 PM

You can get the same rim in the gs backspacing, Keep in mind i run a 4th gen rear if you run spacers in the back they might sit in slightly more. As for bight i have a 350 running 12s and i can say my 245-50-16 nitto DRs were superior to my 315s. I do however plan on putting on the LCA and also a torque arm that should realy help. I like you plan, a car that can acclerate better then a viper but still handle like a champ. Your car will handle incredibly with this tire setup, thats why i went with it. My filter is just in front of the tire, i use sheetmedal to keep the dirt off just behind the filter. I'am going to build a box with a ram just under the spoiler, that will keep the filter sealed away and also ram air right to the filter. For the future i want to mini tub the rear and put a 3rg gen rear in the back 9" of course and send my rims out to Cali and widen them to 17x13!!

superiroc 03-10-2001 08:09 PM

I have LCA, i need to get the mounts to drop them down a bit especialy since the car is lower.

Homer 03-10-2001 08:21 PM

17 x 13's? Where can you buy tires to fit those?

superiroc 03-10-2001 08:46 PM

same tire they put on the viper 335s vipers have a 17x13 gts have 18x13

dallasiroc 03-13-2001 12:31 PM

superiroc either bought the car like it is or had someone do it for him. He does not seem to know a damn thing. GS backspacing. What are you talking about, Grand Sport? They have the exact same back spacing, only difference is powder coated black spokes and polished lip. Spacers to make them sit IN? Even a child can understand the concept of a spacer is to make it FURTHER, therefore it will stick out FURTHER. I doubt you have a 4th gen rear end in your car either. If so I would be very interested in seeing the swap, I have a hard time believing this would work.
And you are going to mini tub it and go back to a 3rd gen 9", that has got to have been a joke right. Before you got into describing future plans I would have believed you may know what you are talking about.

dallasiroc 03-13-2001 12:38 PM

And what Vipers are you talking about? All Vipers I have seen from the RT 10 to the GTS had 18s

dallasiroc 03-13-2001 12:39 PM

Just a Little Kid with Big Dreams.
Never bad to dream though, just do
it without making yourself look stupid

Steve91Z28 L98 03-13-2001 02:42 PM

Chill out dallasiroc. You seem to not know what you're talking about either. I'm not sure about the wheel backspacing or the diamenter of the viper wheels, you may be right on that. But please do your homework before you go bashing someone. A 4th gen rear will swap into a 3rd gen no problem. It's been done many times. The only difference is the width of it. The 4th gen rear will stick out about an inch further on each side and the brakes are different but other than that, it is a direct swap. And as for the 9 inch rear. I think he meant he was going to get a 9 inch that is made for a 3rd gen so the tires won't stick out as much and mini tub it so he can fit wider tires without rubbing the inner fender well. Why don't you stop making yourself look stupid and not even reply to a topic like this.


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1991 Z28 - 350 TPI, T56, McLeod street clutch, ported plenum & runners, AFPR, Holley Annihilator ignition box and wires, Hooker shorty headers w/o AIR, Flowmaster muffler, homeade ram-air, SSM subframe connectors, Kenny Brown STB, Global West steering box brace, Steve Spohn adjustable torque arm and T56 crossmember

dallasiroc 03-13-2001 03:15 PM

Steve, if you would read my post thoroughly before showing YOUR ignorance you would see that I was interested in seeing this. I was curious as to why someone would do this. Did not say it would not work.
And read his last post as of March 10, 2001 07:07 PM it clearly states

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">For the future i want to mini tub the rear and put a 3rg gen rear in the back 9" of course and send my rims out to Cali and widen them to 17x13!!</font>
Im not trying to flame the dude, he just needs to keep it realistic.
Steve for your own sake, read the entire post from now on before trying to sound intelligent.

dallasiroc 03-13-2001 03:25 PM

All in All the dude has an extremely nice car
IMHO i dont think the wheels sticking out ,because of the 2.5 inch spacer required to run the 11s on the back, look that bad.

superiroc 03-13-2001 03:35 PM

Thanks steve this guy is clearly a jackass. First off the original viper r10 came with 17s yes they both have 18s on both rt10 and gts in the last few years, again a jackass. You can get a gs with a different offset just call around to afs and all the other companies that offer theses wheels again jackass. I do have a 4th gen rear that swaps right in that is 4 inches wider then a 3rd gen rear there are several guys on here that have also done this including me, How do you think i manage to bolt on a 11 rim with NO spacers again jackass. I understand how spacers work i was talking about someone running spacers on a 3rd gen rear maybe you can do this simple math jackass. A 4th gen rear= 4 inches wider then a 3rd gen rear. ASkulte sells the spacers for the 3rd gen rear so you can bolt them on they are 1.5+1.5= 3 inches so i was right a 3rd gen rear with spacers would sit in closer then my setup. It appears you are wrong on every account and you are a total loudmouth jackass. Please ask ASkulte or Guido or Kevin91z they will tell you the same. I believe Kevin91z has a 4th gen rear also we must just be good at magic. As for my future goals yes steve understands I want a 3rd gen WIDTH rear 9 inch and then mini tub my car. A boy with big dreams what does your car run? I have spent over alot of money on mods And don't think a na350 iroc in the 12s is weak and my rims and tires cost over $2500 but i guess i just have big dreams. You are a complete idiot don't post nonsense and then flame me when you are wrong on every account. Anyone else care to agree with my on my technical merits.

91banditt2 03-13-2001 03:41 PM

can you post some pic's that were taken from under the car os i can see just how you have your air cleaner set up

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Fastcamaro87 03-13-2001 05:00 PM

superiroc is exactly right on what he is saying about the technical stuff, however he is also right in saying that dallasiroc is a loud mouth jackass!
sweet ride superiroc,keep up the nice work.

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87 IROC-z 305 TPI 5spd Borg warner 9-bolt 3.45 posi 4 wheel disc,8.8 Accel wires , bosch platinum +4 plugs,gutted air box,k&n oil filter,synthetic oil 10w30

superiroc 03-13-2001 07:00 PM

I don't have any pics under the car. You can see under the hood where the 90 degree is. the filter is straight down from there.

superiroc 03-13-2001 07:05 PM

Just to set you straight dallasiroc the Spacers required for the back with a 3rd gen rear are 1.5 the front spacers are the 2.5. Please get your info straight your only going to confuse others.

TonyC 03-13-2001 07:17 PM

Now that is a well done camaro. I like the rim/tire selection and excellent job on the engine, DROOL. Question: Did you write "Lingenfelter" on that air inlet tubing?

superiroc 03-13-2001 07:26 PM

yes i did it looks realy stupid i know. I was just realy board and i just got my dremel when i made it, so what can i say. Thanks for the compliments. i don't mind critics but when they are flat out wrong and clearly have no idea what they are talking about and then call me a kid i get a little upset.

jobryan26 03-13-2001 08:08 PM

Here's mine, it's home made and cost me about $50.00 including K&N filter. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...nce=0&res=high

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'87 Trans Am
305 TPI:
160 Degree Theremostat
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Spark Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N

evilho7810 03-13-2001 09:14 PM

Let me clear something up 4th gen rear ends are NOT 4" wider than a 3rd gen rear end. It's 1" wider on each side so it's 2" total not 4".

superiroc 03-13-2001 09:30 PM

I was told it was 4 inches and i even measured it. I have my 9 bolt in my shop i can go check it again but I'am sure it was plus 2 inches on each side.

superiroc 03-13-2001 09:34 PM

I just looked at the article in the tech area and it even says it 2 inches wider on each side. I know i measured 2 more inches on each side. I put the rear in myself

evilho7810 03-14-2001 12:51 AM

Okay I guess I was wrong then, sorry.

dallasiroc 03-14-2001 06:57 AM

Ok so I am a jackass. You got that out of your system. You still have not made any sense.
Im still curious about the GS backspacing. You said you can get the same wheel in the GS back spacing, sorry to say the Grand Sport has the same exact size wheels as on your car. Would have been smarter to just say you can get my chrome ZR-1 Wheels and the Grand Sport wheels in a number of offsets. Again you are ignorant.
You need 1.5 in the front and 2.5 in the back, you have it backwards, again ignorant.
You said 9" 3rd gen which is what I believe you actually dreamt you were going to do. If you paid over $2500 for those rims and tires you cleary got slammed. I bet writing Lingenfelter on your pvc intake gave you atleast 5 extra horses and shaved .05 off your 1/4 mile time.

As for my Iroc, it is not completed yet shall be within next couple of months. 455 horse 383, so Im sure that it should be a runnin b itch.
Now my everyday car, it is a 4400 pound monster and it will still stomp your a55.

click on the pic to go to my site. More pics and videos of my IMP

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DSouthern 03-14-2001 08:36 AM

jobryan26
Nice looking job!
Looks like you used 3 inch PVC pipe, is that correct? Are you using a MAF sensor in your setup? Is the unit attached/supported anywhere between the filter and TB to keep it from moving or vibrating?

Steve91Z28 L98 03-14-2001 09:03 AM

Actually you've got it bacwards on the spacers dallasiroc. The thicker adapters are needed on the front if you run a ZR1 style wheel. And he didn't pay $2500 for his wheels alone. it was for the wheel/tire set. Those Yokohama 315's probably cost quite a bit.

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1991 Z28 - 350 TPI, T56, McLeod street clutch, ported plenum & runners, AFPR, Holley Annihilator ignition box and wires, Hooker shorty headers w/o AIR, Flowmaster muffler, homeade ram-air, SSM subframe connectors, Kenny Brown STB, Global West steering box brace, Steve Spohn adjustable torque arm and T56 crossmember

jobryan26 03-14-2001 09:52 AM


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DSouthern:
jobryan26
Nice looking job!
Looks like you used 3 inch PVC pipe, is that correct? Are you using a MAF sensor in your setup? Is the unit attached/supported anywhere between the filter and TB to keep it from moving or vibrating?
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Yea I used 3inch PVC with a long 90degree elbow and straight pipe. I did support it by mounting a bracted I fabricated underneath the intake so that it doesn't move. It took me about 1hour to do it all and them I searched the web for the K&N cone filter w/3" inlet. I found it cheapest at thefordsource.com for $37.95. It has 3' inlet and it's 9" long and was a tight fit. I haven't relocated the MAF yet because the PROM would need to be adjusted for this change in order for it to work correctly and I'm just know ordering all the stuff I need to burn my own PROM's.

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'87 Trans Am
305 TPI:
160 Degree Theremostat
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Spark Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N

superiroc 03-14-2001 11:12 AM

What a jerk you are backwards on the spacers but someone already called you on that. You can get 17x11 rims in two different offset, just call afs. As for your impalla what does it run i bet i can smoke you on just motor alone. I suppose your going to tell us it runs 11s and it only has a KN filter. When you speek everyone here gets a little less intelegent. Have you ever priced a yoks 315-35-17 tires?

dallasiroc 03-14-2001 11:55 AM

Yea it has a k&n and that is it! What a fool
Go to my site and listen to
it. Does that sound like a K&N? And you are good in guessing what it runs. Mid 11's. Boy are you pathetic.
I have more in the wheels and body then your entire car.
Go on dreamin little one.

dallasiroc 03-14-2001 12:03 PM

Did I say wheels and body. Took a second look at your car. Wheels and Hood and that is cutting it close. Ill admit that I was wrong about the spacers, I just read about it. I can admit when I am wrong

IrocStan 03-14-2001 01:49 PM

dallasiroc, why do you have to be a hater? You're making an *** of yourself.

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87 IROC 350
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