New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) 1 Attachment(s) I'm currently in the mist of rebuilding my ailing 9 bolt (posi cones are worn down enough that i cant do anything with them anymore). I also decided at this time it was worth it for me to do a full rebuild as in new bearings EVERYWHERE. So hunting the internet for deals i figured i would compile a list of all the places that i got these parts. These are the CHEAPEST places that i could find. If you find them cheaper my hats off to you! IWErearendsonly.com-Posi Cones ($125 plus shipping. Call the number and talk to either Colin or Ian). Here is what i received. They are already pre-machined with the correct 'step' so that they fit the stock carrier with no modifications. These are over-sized BRAND NEW posi cones from Australia that this company picked up and brought back to Canada. Attachment 374023 Master bearing install kit (timken)- Drivetrainamerica.com ($134.00 plus shipping) http://www.drivetrainamerica.com/p-1...aring-kit.aspx Timken axle bearings (set 9) ($17 dollars a piece)-Rockauto.com rockauto.com Axle seals. The ones ive found to fit correctly with no issues are both bought from napa. Yes there is a difference between the right and left seal but its mostly in the direction of the lines on the inside of the seal to push the fluid back into the axles. If your seals look VASTLY different then you probably read the "everything i know about 9 bolts" thread and used those part numbers. Those are the numbers that all the books call for but for some reason timken is supplying a seal for the drivers side that WILL NOT fit in the housing. These seals are the ones to get napa part numbers: Left 16491 Right 16542 They ran me about 20 bucks a piece. http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Re...&Dk=1&Dp=3&N=0 T/A performance stud girdle and carrier stud upgrade kit ($149.99+19.99 for the stud kit) hawksthirdgenparts.com Hope this helps someone and saves someone some money. The cones fit in my worn carrier AWESOME just in case anyone is curious. There is a ton of space between the end of the cone and the carrier for years and years of trouble free operation im sure. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) Did your old posi cones wear into the carrier at all? If so, isn't the carrier pretty much toast after that? I rebuilt my 9 bolt year's and ago and ended up spending enough money to where I should have just went the 4th gen zexel route. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) They had just started to eat into but not to the point i think the carrier is junk. If they were really deep grooves yea i would chuck it and find a better one but i think this one will be just fine after seeing how the new posi cones fit in it. As i said in the first post there was a ton of space between the new cones and the carrier. Also the new cones removed all play from the spider gears without me needing to shim between the side gears and the cone. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) Thanks for the info, I just ordered a set of these cones from Ian yesterday and am glad I caught them in time as he said he only had a couple of sets left. The price was $175 plus the ride which seemed reasonable. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts)
Originally Posted by Mongoose
(Post 5255003)
Thanks for the info, I just ordered a set of these cones from Ian yesterday and am glad I caught them in time as he said he only had a couple of sets left. The price was $175 plus the ride which seemed reasonable. Also of note for anyone using this as a guide...the pinion seal supplied in the timken master bearing kit was crap and leaked immediately. It was not a timken seal. I ordered the correct seal from Autozone and it was a timken seal. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) Lemme know if your guys' IWE cones wear prematurley. Mine only lasted 600miles... And no I did not beat on rear end. Hopefully I just got lucky on that last set and the new ones fair better. They said they have sold about 30 pairs and I am the 1st this has happened to. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) How did you set it up? Did you add shims? Just looking for information here.. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts)
Originally Posted by Mongoose
(Post 5256015)
How did you set it up? Did you add shims? Just looking for information here.. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) Thanks sub roc, I am about to rebuild my 9bolt also. Can you tell me the p/n for the set of 9 axle bearings from rock auto? Also the p/n for the timken pinion seal that you had to get from auto zone. And lastly ...I was going to purchase the ratech p/n 332k from summit racing for everything else and also the gm9-370 ring and pinion is on sale at summit, so I plan to get it also. Thanks again for sharing. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts)
Originally Posted by Doogy
(Post 5258451)
Thanks sub roc, I am about to rebuild my 9bolt also. Can you tell me the p/n for the set of 9 axle bearings from rock auto? Also the p/n for the timken pinion seal that you had to get from auto zone. And lastly ...I was going to purchase the ratech p/n 332k from summit racing for everything else and also the gm9-370 ring and pinion is on sale at summit, so I plan to get it also. Thanks again for sharing. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts)
Originally Posted by Mongoose
(Post 5256015)
How did you set it up? Did you add shims? Just looking for information here.. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) I just received the cones I ordered from IWE yesterday and after inspecting them noticed that they look just like the OE cones shown in Twin Turbo's pics from other posts about rebuilding the 9 bolt. I also got a reply from 9bolt.com stating that there was an early and a later version of the posi with the ridged version being the early version and later versions having no ridge which is what their cones are apparently made for. Glenn also stated that the early diffs are uncommon at best in Australia as most were sent to the US and that removing the ridge would simply convert an early diff to a later one. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) I honestly dont know if they put in shims the last time. Im just looking at the bill from last time all it says is: Strip + Clean Diff. Install New Bearings Reseal + Set up diff with Reb. Posi Trac On the new bill: Repair Rear End Strip + Inspect Rear End Install + Set Up New Cones In Posi Trac Assemble + Set Up 4:10 Gears To Achieve Best Possible Contact Ian told me he will not give me a warranty becuase its a "race car"... (mods in sig). The rear end is still noisy but not "clunky"(yet...), like last time it seems so be locking up when im cornering slow. (sorry if im hijacking this thread, I will make a new one if you guys want) |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) I rebuilt my 9 bolt before there were cones available. It was a waste of time and money. I machined the cones myself (not hard)... The posi didn't last too long. I shimmed everything properly as well. The posi wont engage unless I do a brake stand. So driving around town and trying to slide around turns it won't lock. But at the track, where I warm up the tires first, it kinda locks the rear, and the car launches great. I can't remember how much I spent rebuilding it. At the time, I wished I had just bought a zexel 4th gen rear with bigger brakes and 3.45's, so it was prob around 2-300. |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts)
Originally Posted by Bullydawg
(Post 5261015)
I rebuilt my 9 bolt before there were cones available. It was a waste of time and money. I machined the cones myself (not hard)... The posi didn't last too long. I shimmed everything properly as well. The posi wont engage unless I do a brake stand. So driving around town and trying to slide around turns it won't lock. But at the track, where I warm up the tires first, it kinda locks the rear, and the car launches great. I can't remember how much I spent rebuilding it. At the time, I wished I had just bought a zexel 4th gen rear with bigger brakes and 3.45's, so it was prob around 2-300. I wish at this point I had just bought a 12bolt or 9 inch. The amount of money iv wasted on this 9bolt I probly could have had one new for a few hundred $$ more... |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) That's the age old dilemma ain't it? |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts) When mine does go (hopefully not for a long long time now) im going to go dana 44, 12 bolt, or 9". |
Re: New Cheaper sources for 9 bolt borg warner posi cones (and other rebuild parts)
Originally Posted by geoffz28
(Post 5261655)
How long did it last? I wish at this point I had just bought a 12bolt or 9 inch. The amount of money iv wasted on this 9bolt I probly could have had one new for a few hundred $$ more... |
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