Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

Third Generation F-Body Message Boards (https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/)
-   V6 (https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/)
-   -   Cold start injector system question. (https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/182346-cold-start-injector-system.html)

BackInBlackGP 05-29-2003 08:21 PM

Cold start injector system question.
 
Hi. Does anyone know at what temperature the cold start injector system sensor changes state? Is the sensor a thermistor, or a dry contact type? Thanks! :)

TomP 05-29-2003 09:18 PM

LOL, you're really into the cold start injector system, eh? :D

It's neither a thermistor or a "dry contact" sensor- it's not even a sensor. It's a switch. Looked up the temp for you (from the GM Service Manual, http://www.helminc.com , hint hint), any time the coolant temp is below 95 degrees Fahrenheight (39 deg Celsius), the cold start switch is on.

Interesting- the book says that the cold start switch actually heats itself... says the bimetal gets heated by the windings in the switch, and will stay "on" 8 seconds at 20 degrees celsius (didn't give fahrenheit and I don't feel like converting) or below.

I guess that means max time for the CSI "on" is 8 seconds?

BackInBlackGP 05-29-2003 10:18 PM


LOL, you're really into the cold start injector system, eh?
Hell yeah! I've heard of adding a 7th injector to the intake of the GN's, to add more fuel for the higher-boost aftermarket turbos, and I want to experiment with this some more...

The 8-second thing is a bit strange... I can tell when the injector is on/open just by the sound of the engine while accelerating cold. The butt-dyno reports this as well. I'm pretty sure the injector is operating for more than 8 seconds after startup...

It appears to be only a 2-wire device, so the heating thing has me perplexed... Unless it is similar to the flasher module? I'll have to take a closer look at it after it stops raining and I can go out and play.

I'm thinking of a shifter-mounted "fuel performance" button. I should be able to get an aftermarket manual transmission knob with an accessory button. Or, I could just tie it into a TPS monitoring circuit, and open the injector around 85% to 90% throttle...

Does the manual state anything about the injector being PWM, or is it simply open/closed? I don't want to burn the coil out by driving it with 100% duty cycle...

I wonder if it opens at 100% duty cycle at 68°F for 8 seconds and then between that an 95°F it runs at 50% or something similar...

TomP 05-30-2003 09:58 AM

The injector's either on or off, there's no in between.

You know a car gets more power when it runs lean, right?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:27 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands