There's No Fool Like an Old Fool Yep, me. First I'm too embarrassed to mention how old the tires on my IROC were, though there weren't many miles on them. At any rate, I attributed issues I was experiencing to steering. Ahem, those issues, all of them, disappeared with a new set of tires. Good grief! Ok, to the tires themselves. I thought I'd discovered what I wanted on tirerack (a BFG summer or BFG all season tire), but a third party convinced me to try Falken 245/50R16 ZIEX ZE950 AS 97H. So far, they're terrific (and a $70 rebate didn't hurt) but I suspect that any replacement would have been a marked improvement. Lesson learned. JamesC |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool Amazing what new tires will do! |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool Are you saying that my BFGs with maybe 5k miles on them since 1998 are suspect? LOL |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool I replaced the original Gatorbacks on my '89 when they were 20 years old. They looked mint, but felt like ice skates when driving, plus I was afraid drive over 30 MPH. The first time I hit the brake pedal on my new F1 tires, it felt as if I had swapped 13" Brembos for the stock brakes. |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool Good reminder for us all. Years back I had a belt break while on the freeway in my Chevelle. The Michelins looked good before hand and were properly inflated but were also 12+ years old. Lesson learned, I now change tires every 10 years at latest regardless of tread condition. |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool
Originally Posted by Drew
(Post 6220709)
Are you saying that my BFGs with maybe 5k miles on them since 1998 are suspect? LOL |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool My Iroc had 55K-ish miles on it when I put the new tires on, now it's at 61K. LOL Doesn't get driven much. Fortunately I'm not planning on taking it on any road trips. The tires on my Formula are nearly as old, but the rears have been replaced once or twice while the fronts just keep going. Not sure why the rears keep going bald. :lol: |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool Ok, I'll fess up. The tires were 14 years old. I'm still amazed at what the new tires brought to the car and my enjoyment of it. JamesC |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool LOL, don't feel bad, I think the good years on my car now are from 03 ish? Maybe I shouldn't be running the car to "elevated" speeds that I do buuuut.... |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool Well, after a few days of driving on all surfaces, rough and smooth, city and highway and after setting the Koni Yellows to full soft (I'm in the process of experimenting), I feel as if I've purchased a new car. The ride is more comfortable and the steering more precise—and perhaps more importantly, I'm enjoying the car again. :D JamesC |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool A Large Body of Scientific Literature Supports a Six Year Tire Expiration Date http://www.tiresafetygroup.com/tires...-in-six-years/ |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool You put H rated tires on your car? How do they feel in the corners? I put the Cooper Zeon RS3-G1 on my car and had to return them. The car rolled through corners and was very soft. I replaced them with BFG Comp 2 sport. They are much better, except for the improper weight installation that needs to redone! My last set of tires were Michelin Pilot Sports and I had them on since February 2009. In that time, I put 6k miles on them. |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool
Originally Posted by scottmoyer
(Post 6221814)
You put H rated tires on your car? How do they feel in the corners? I put the Cooper Zeon RS3-G1 on my car and had to return them. The car rolled through corners and was very soft. I replaced them with BFG Comp 2 sport. They are much better, except for the improper weight installation that needs to redone! My last set of tires were Michelin Pilot Sports and I had them on since February 2009. In that time, I put 6k miles on them. JamesC |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool speed limiter sitting in the passenger seat :blah::blah::blah: :driving: :burnout: :gocrazy: :thumbsup: |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool Ok, am I wrong in thinking that the speed rating also affects the tires performance? H rated tires are sufficient for my car also because I don't see me driving extended periods at high speed either, but I thought that rating also addressed sidewall and performance. |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool
Originally Posted by JamesC
(Post 6221241)
Ok, I'll fess up. The tires were 14 years old. I'm still amazed at what the new tires brought to the car and my enjoyment of it. JamesC But yes, tires make a huge difference. It also surprises me when people go for cheap tires. |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool My rule of thumb on performance tires is three years, whether the tread is worn out our not. My tires sit outside in the weather for the six months they are on the car before the seasonal swap. You may be able to stretch a bit farther if you can keep the tires out of the UV light when they aren't actually rolling. Old tires become soft where they are supposed to be rigid, and they become rigid where they are supposed to be soft. The up-side is you can run those performance tires pretty hard, and wear them out before you have to throw them away just because they got old. That's what I call winning. |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool The tires look nice too |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool A quick update: With new tires, new ball joints, a four-wheel thrust alignment, the Koni Yellows set to full soft, and a return to the OE steering shaft and its rag joint (I chucked the Astro van version), I'm smilin' from ear to ear. JamesC |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool James how are you finding the Koni Yellows at full soft on the street? I was strongly considering this http://umiperformance.com/catalog/in...oducts_id=1143 + new moog springs then read a member who did exactly that and “went too far” on harshness for his street/strip objective. I realize myself I’ve tracked once this summer and driven to work 100 times in a land of potholes and speed bumps with a few blessed clear higher speed straightaways in between. For more color I’ve got new Monroes up front on purchase last summer but some much older NAPA shocks out back. Hence I was thinking to only do the B6 HDs out back for way way less money (Canada) than Konis all around and amortize the Monroes a little longer. Bonus: pretty close to the factory setup from a historical angle.Downside: besides a few harsh ride comments here and there the konis get wildly positive reviews. |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool
Originally Posted by SirReveller
(Post 6251481)
James how are you finding the Koni Yellows at full soft on the street? I was strongly considering this http://umiperformance.com/catalog/in...oducts_id=1143 + new moog springs then read a member who did exactly that and “went too far” on harshness for his street/strip objective. Downside: besides a few harsh ride comments here and there the konis get wildly positive reviews. JamesC |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool Great advice as always, thanks James. I think I’ll hold off on the konis (easy to do when they’re a freakin fortune to get to your doorstep up here) and snag the bilsteins to tighten up the back a bit. |
Re: There's No Fool Like an Old Fool
Originally Posted by JamesC
(Post 6220601)
Yep, me. First I'm too embarrassed to mention how old the tires on my IROC were, though there weren't many miles on them. At any rate, I attributed issues I was experiencing to steering. Ahem, those issues, all of them, disappeared with a new set of tires. Good grief! Ok, to the tires themselves. I thought I'd discovered what I wanted on tirerack (a BFG summer or BFG all season tire), but a third party convinced me to try Falken 245/50R16 ZIEX ZE950 AS 97H. So far, they're terrific (and a $70 rebate didn't hurt) but I suspect that any replacement would have been a marked improvement. Lesson learned. JamesC |
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