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At 24 g's they're definitely not making enough money to replace the $18 struts and give it a proper bath. When someone buys it, do the pieces of wood just get tossed on the back seat for them??
Nothing like keeping the original parts even if they were worn out. The only thing that turns me off about the car (other than the color) is the undercoating (edit: and those stick on door protectors)
Not in the market to buy this car but just wondering why u think this is to much for this car its got 9000 miles and its a 90 formula besides the hood struts and undercoating which isn't a big deal imo i would say its worth it.
Nothing like keeping the original parts even if they were worn out. The only thing that turns me off about the car (other than the color) is the undercoating.
Nothing like keeping the original parts even if they were worn out. The only thing that turns me off about the car (other than the color) is the undercoating.
Exactly !! - and your normal uneducated sellers (that have no clue) just dont get it - they think that because it has been undercoated it's worth even more $$
I'm to the point where if I am in the market for a high quality, low mile, ultra original car it's the first question I ask - has it been undercoated?
If so, I pass......
My car is a high quality, low mile, ultra original car and it's been undercoated. The amount of undercoating on this car is so thin you can see the color through it, so I wouldn't have any issues buying this car. And regarding the hood/hatch props, I had to have my hatch held up while I put the TTops in the back today. It seems that the new struts don't last one season. I'm sure the seller would be willing to replace those for a new buyer.
BTW, my car also came from Minnesota, so most cars were sprayed by the dealer prior to purchase because of the amount of salt they use up there.
So, why doesn't this car qualify for it's asking price? Last year of that look, 1st year of the new interior, low miles, Formula red, 350 TPI?????
My car is a high quality, low mile, ultra original car and it's been undercoated. The amount of undercoating on this car is so thin you can see the color through it, so I wouldn't have any issues buying this car. And regarding the hood/hatch props, I had to have my hatch held up while I put the TTops in the back today. It seems that the new struts don't last one season. I'm sure the seller would be willing to replace those for a new buyer.
BTW, my car also came from Minnesota, so most cars were sprayed by the dealer prior to purchase because of the amount of salt they use up there.
So, why doesn't this car qualify for it's asking price? Last year of that look, 1st year of the new interior, low miles, Formula red, 350 TPI?????
Scott, we usually agree on these matters but not this time - $24,000 are you kidding me?
No way this car is worth that money. I know all about this car - it's been stored every winter in a shed out back of the owners house.
No heat, lots of humidity changes and temperature fluctuations. There has been paint work performed, (with no clue as to why) with noticeable drips and sags in the paint.
and believe me, it's NOT factory imperfections - The rear spoiler is shot, very large cracks in several area. The heater core burst and got on the carpet - the core has been replaced (non-professionally)
The undercoating is a huge negative (for me anyway) and there are a lot of cars to choose from in this price point with no undercoating that have been
properly stored and from a private collection in a heated and climate controlled facility - there are better cars out there if you want to spend $24,000 -
that is just my opinion of this car.
‘90 with a 9 bolt? I guess the very early cars didn’t receive a 10 bolt? My 90 has a 9 bolt as well and the original ownerswears the rear has never been out of the car
‘90 with a 9 bolt? I guess the very early cars didn’t receive a 10 bolt? My 90 has a 9 bolt as well and the original ownerswears the rear has never been out of the car
I've seen a few early cars now that have the 9bolt. Just using up stock I'm sure
Scott, we usually agree on these matters but not this time - $24,000 are you kidding me?
No way this car is worth that money. I know all about this car - it's been stored every winter in a shed out back of the owners house.
No heat, lots of humidity changes and temperature fluctuations. There has been paint work performed, (with no clue as to why) with noticeable drips and sags in the paint.
and believe me, it's NOT factory imperfections - The rear spoiler is shot, very large cracks in several area. The heater core burst and got on the carpet - the core has been replaced (non-professionally)
The undercoating is a huge negative (for me anyway) and there are a lot of cars to choose from in this price point with no undercoating that have been
properly stored and from a private collection in a heated and climate controlled facility - there are better cars out there if you want to spend $24,000 -
that is just my opinion of this car.
I didn't see any of that disclosed in the advertisement. The ad says the car is all original as it came off the showroom floor. To me, a car of that caliber is worth the asking price. Now, based on what you disclosed here, I would have to agree and say the car is NOT worth $24k unless the repaint was perfectly done. You're saying it wasn't.
When I lived in Minneapolis, my car was either stored at my house, with no heat in the garage, two other cars coming and going with melting snow and ice on them causing humidity variances, or it was at a shop that had tow trucks in and out from November to April, so there was a lot of soot in the air. My heater core didn't blow, but I replaced it myself and I'm not a professional either, so those arguments really don't change much for me. Everything you mentioned is a non issue, except the paint, the spoiler and if the carpet is damaged. Those items alone devalue the asking price.
I'm only stating all of this to show that my car has been given more credit than I think it deserves, and it started out the same as this car.
Here's a picture of my car's undercarriage when I was removing the undercoat. The right side was already started, but you can see how nasty the left side looked.
Scott - what did you use that removed the undercoating yet did not touch the factory over spray ??
A lot of this depends on the type of undercoating used and how thick it was applied
Also, that Formula was not repainted - some areas had been re-sprayed and no idea why - I was concerned
it had some sheet metal replaced at one time.
I had the Rusty Jones beeswax based undercoating, so I used the Gunk Gel engine degreaser and a pressure washer. I followed up with a light wipe of Simple Green to remove any residual film.
I had the Rusty Jones beeswax based undercoating, so I used the Gunk Gel engine degreaser and a pressure washer. I followed up with a light wipe of Simple Green to remove any residual film.
You were lucky - much easier removing that then the rubberized undercoatings I've seen used a lot in the upper midwest locations
Some of those undercoating products are nearly impossible to remove without damage to the finish underneath the undercoating
Yea i was just thinking that the only problem was the under coating and hood struts but with those problems i would look elsewhere and i dont think u would find a underside like that to often even on the more high dollar thirdgens most of these cars r not in stored controlled environment
Yea i was just thinking that the only problem was the under coating and hood struts but with those problems i would look elsewhere and i dont think u would find a underside like that to often even on the more high dollar thirdgens most of these cars r not in stored controlled environment
I disagree, I've seen plenty with pristine undersides that have been stored in a controlled enviroments - take a look at the Mecum auctions and BJ auctions
You will find 3rd gens from private collectors that are just like new - if you do a search of cars sold on the Mecum website you'd be amazed at what you will see
I will definitely check those site's out i guess i got to step up and spend more money i had more than 15 of these cars and not one hasn't had some kinda rust somewhere
If anyone is considering this car, feel free to contact me - it's not mine but I know the car.....
it's WAY over priced !!!
i agree the price is a little high if its not showroom quality .. seems like formulas and pontiacs in general are a tough sell nowadays .. you can get real nice low mile 350 formulas for 10k
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