Kyle F

I have a set of intrax lowering srpings that will drop 2" in the front and 1.5" in the rear. I plan on doing this to a TTA that will keep the stock 245/50/ZR16's all around except when I bolt on the Drag slicks which will be DOT approved BFG most likely. I would get the Nittos but so many "Ricers" have them.

So anyways will this all work together or not, and will I see a decrese or an increase in cornering ability? The TTA has the full stage 3 WS6 package.



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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555

Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!

MikeDwhoROCZImports

iTrader: (1)

That will screw up your cornering. Dropping it that much with spring will mess up your suspension gemoetry. Drop spindels are the only way to drop it that much...

ImportEater

I wouldn't go to that extreme on your vehicle. With the WS6 suspension, I'd go with front 1.5" drop spindles, and rear 1.5" springs. However, stay away from the Intrax springs -- I've had them and they suck.

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1985 Trans Am - rough and ready -- 3" cat and primary exhaust, lowered 2", custom rust body work mild fender denting. Daily driver.
1976 Corvette Stingray - not so rough, but always ready. mild 350/th350 tranny. mostly stock till I whack the hood for the blower

AntiVTEC

Just get the eibach sportlines. They'll give the car a good 1.5-2 inch drop. About the geometry of the suspension getting messed up, people have been lowering their cars for generations with springs like these with superior results compared to stock springs. After lowering the car, take it for an alignment right away and you'll be set.

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85 2.8L Sport Coupe 5-speed.
Mods: Hpertech chip and powerstat, MSD 6A-L, Crane fireball coil, Dynomax hi-flow cat and catback system with a dynomax magnum race bullet muffler on the i-pipe, K&N filterchargers, Eibach and Tokiko springs/shocks setup, Global west sub frames, Suspension techniqs front and rear sway bars, and good ole 88 IROC wheels with Kumo Ecstas on em!
"I'm out to seek those pesky VTEC boys!" (don't get me wrong, I'm asian myself! hehe)

Wins: 2000 V6 Accord, 69 302 Mustang, 2000 Auto VR6 Jetta, 89 Toyota MR2, 90 Civic Si, 76 350 Camaro.

Jason M 91Z

I'm running Global West S-9 street springs. They lower about 1" and are 640lb. linear springs. I have to strongly reccomend them. The ride is a little harsher, but so much more predictable and consistent than with progressive springs. They're expensive, and you'd still need rear springs if you want to lower the rear too, but I wouldn't waste my money on progressive springs after riding these springs for a month!

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-Jason M. 1991 Camaro Z28

Kyle F

Guys the deal is I have the Intrax springs already in my garage, and springs with the same kind of spring constant do the same thing. I am an engineer and I know this to be a fact, the only difference in srpings you buy are there rating(spring constant) and whether its a linear rating or a progressive rating.

SO the deal is that I have the intrax and I want to know if I should use them or sell them and not put a set in at all. Its the INtrax or nothing.

Now I see there is a split decision on whether or not to use the springs or spindles. So who is the expert and who has droped there car this much, anyone with experience?

Sorry if I seem a little rude, I don't mean to be, but I would kinda like a straight answer on the Intrax springs.

Jza

I don't want to sound rude either, but if you already have them, why don't you stick them in and see for yourself if you like them? And if you don't, then take them back out. What's the big deal?

AntiVTEC

Well, another difference from spring to spring would be how low they make your car after. I've got my car dropped about 2.5 inches and its great. Car never bottoms out or hits the bump stops on the suspension. Plus the baby handles hella better! Haha... just make sure you get a good set of struts/shocks to accomodate the stiffer and shorter springs. So, to answer your question...PUT THEM IN! payce.

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85 2.8L Sport Coupe 5-speed.
Mods: Hpertech chip and powerstat, MSD 6A-L, Crane fireball coil, Dynomax hi-flow cat and catback system with a dynomax magnum race bullet muffler on the i-pipe, K&N filterchargers, Eibach and Tokiko springs/shocks setup, Global west sub frames, Suspension techniqs front and rear sway bars, and good ole 88 IROC wheels with Kumo Ecstas on em!
"I'm out to seek those pesky VTEC boys!" (don't get me wrong, I'm asian myself! hehe)

Wins: 2000 V6 Accord, 69 302 Mustang, 2000 Auto VR6 Jetta, 89 Toyota MR2, 90 Civic Si, 76 350 Camaro.

Kyle F

Well I was considering that, but I thought I would goto some experts and see if they knew what it would do and if it would cause problems. I mean if I wasto not use them and to sell them they would be worth more in an un usde state in the original factory sealed box.

AntiVTEC

Aight, to finish this off... first of all, you need to know your goals. If you want your car to be lowered to look cooler and dont really give a heck about ride quality, then put those springs in along with a good alignment. If you want better handling then put those springs in along with all the other goodies that go with the suspension. Otherwise, leave that bad boy alone. payce.

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85 2.8L Sport Coupe 5-speed.
Mods: Hpertech chip and powerstat, MSD 6A-L, Crane fireball coil, Dynomax hi-flow cat and catback system with a dynomax magnum race bullet muffler on the i-pipe, K&N filterchargers, Eibach and Tokiko springs/shocks setup, Global west sub frames, Suspension techniqs front and rear sway bars, and good ole 88 IROC wheels with Kumo Ecstas on em!
"I'm out to seek those pesky VTEC boys!" (don't get me wrong, I'm asian myself! hehe)

Wins: 2000 V6 Accord, 69 302 Mustang, 2000 Auto VR6 Jetta, 89 Toyota MR2, 90 Civic Si, 76 350 Camaro.

purpleworm

I want to put new springs in mine but I don't want to have the problems of getting the car on the hoists. I wouldn't mind a 1" drop but will they stand up well. I don't care how rough the ride is becasue I didn't buy a cadilac....I drive a camaro!!! What springs will drop it this much?


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91 Z28 Camaro
305 TPI
Flowmaster 3" exhaust
700R4 with 2000 Stall and shift kit 3.42 rearend
One sweet sounding system

Jason M 91Z

If you lower the front of your thirdgen 2.5" with springs, you will ride on the bump stops. Don't tell me you lowered your car 2.5" with springs and say that the "car never bottoms out..." I personally wouldn't lower more than 1 1/4" with springs. If you want lower, get spindles. Also, if the threadstarter is an engineer, why is he asking 7000 idiots like me if his intrax springs are ok? Peace ladies.

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-Jason M. 1991 Camaro Z28

AntiVTEC

dood, the only way you can "ride" on the bumpstops is with the springs out. 2.5 inches or even 3 is perfectly do-able, (just as long as u got shocks in combo with them)... just not practicle. just put the springs in.. payce

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85 2.8L Sport Coupe 5-speed.
Mods: Hpertech chip and powerstat, MSD 6A-L, Crane fireball coil, Dynomax hi-flow cat and catback system with a dynomax magnum race bullet muffler on the i-pipe, K&N filterchargers, Eibach and Tokiko springs/shocks setup, Global west sub frames, Suspension techniqs front and rear sway bars, and good ole 88 IROC wheels with Kumo Ecstas on em!
"I'm out to seek those pesky VTEC boys!" (don't get me wrong, I'm asian myself! hehe)

Wins: 2000 V6 Accord, 69 302 Mustang, 2000 Auto VR6 Jetta, 89 Toyota MR2, 90 Civic Si, 76 350 Camaro.

Kyle F

Well I am an Engineering student and have studied what springs do and such, but I don't have all the specifics on how my suspension will respond to these springs. I am asking to make sure before I find outh that I made a mistake and this is too low or my Tires run like hell, or something like that.
I don't car that much about ride quality either because I don't drive it for comfort and I don't have to drive it everyday.

So now the next question:
What shocks?

AntiVTEC

Tokiko.

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85 2.8L Sport Coupe 5-speed.
Mods: Hpertech chip and powerstat, MSD 6A-L, Crane fireball coil, Dynomax hi-flow cat and catback system with a dynomax magnum race bullet muffler on the i-pipe, K&N filterchargers, Eibach and Tokiko springs/shocks setup, Global west sub frames, Suspension techniqs front and rear sway bars, and good ole 88 IROC wheels with Kumo Ecstas on em!
"I'm out to seek those pesky VTEC boys!" (don't get me wrong, I'm asian myself! hehe)

Wins: 2000 V6 Accord, 69 302 Mustang, 2000 Auto VR6 Jetta, 89 Toyota MR2, 90 Civic Si, 76 350 Camaro.

RoadRacin85Z

I second that opinion. Tokicos are great, don't have them in my Camaro, but have them in my race car, and they are awesome. Very stiff, but awesome! Hey Jason M 91Z, where did you get the Global West springs from? I'd rather have a constant rate spring than all these progressive rates (even the Eibachs are progressive), paired with a good stiff shock like the Tokicos or Bilsteins, I think would be awesome.

-Joel Likness

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- 84 Z28 In Progress (Road Racer)
- 85 S10 350/350 (Drag Racer)
- 85 Nissan 200SX Yes, it's Japanese (Circle Track Car)
- 91 Lumina 3.1 Euro (Daily Driver) (In Pieces)
Carolina F-Body Club
NC Third Gen Association

Why is it that the hot rod truck is the only one that I drive every day???

Jason M 91Z

85 Z,

I got my GW springs right from Global West. Check em out at www.globalwest.net. They have 3 different sets of front springs, I got the street springs with a 640 lb. spring rate. They're pricey however, at about $140 for just the pair of fronts, but well worth it.

And again, if you lower your thirdgen 2.5" with just springs, you will be riding on the bump stops. I don't even think my car had 2.5" of suspension travel in the front while the car was loaded with stock springs. Even Herb Adams doesn't reccomend more than 1" spring drop on these cars. Good luck.

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-Jason M. 1991 Camaro Z28

AntiVTEC

The sportlines by eibach arent progressive. About that 2.5 inch drop.. i guess i never bottomed out cuz I had the shocks and springs put in at the same time. Like homeboy said, the tokiko's are very stiff! aight.. payce.

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85 2.8L Sport Coupe 5-speed.
Mods: Hpertech chip and powerstat, MSD 6A-L, Crane fireball coil, Dynomax hi-flow cat and catback system with a dynomax magnum race bullet muffler on the i-pipe, K&N filterchargers, Eibach and Tokiko springs/shocks setup, Global west sub frames, Suspension techniqs front and rear sway bars, and good ole 88 IROC wheels with Kumo Ecstas on em!
"I'm out to seek those pesky VTEC boys!" (don't get me wrong, I'm asian myself! hehe)

Wins: 2000 V6 Accord, 69 302 Mustang, 2000 Auto VR6 Jetta, 89 Toyota MR2, 90 Civic Si, 76 350 Camaro.

Jason M 91Z

Ok timmy toughnuts, you're right, a 2.5" spring dropped thirdgen won't be riding on the bump stops, it'll be 1/4" away on a V8 car. Definetly the car I want to be driving... Also, a '00 Accord would hand you your *** . "Payce"

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-Jason M. 1991 Camaro Z28