wth, for a car my key doesn't have **** on it, such a simple key. ?I could draw it and copy it successfully. does everyone's key look like mine, look in the pic,



edited it and changed the pic

 

EDIT~~no i dont but lmao nice pic on tv

 

yeah during the day when theres no school theres nothing to watch. Even with my Satelite TV.

 

yep... looks like a typical vatsless gm key for an 80's gm car.

 

d00d i have vats i'm just wondering if the actuall key noches are the same as all the other keys.

 

Where do you live? I just printed the page and cut out the key!

 

f*ck you, i live on a military base,
Dahlgren, Virginia.
653B Hall Rd. 22448

got that one.

i hope you can getpast sevurity, you arn't military expect a full search of your car.

nah thats where i used to live and its the security building. tell ya what, its near the capitol of florida(HINT HINT talahasse.

 

i dont understand the question.


when they copy a key, it just uses a "feeler arm" and a cutting wheel... as the arm moves, the cutting wheel moves in the same pattern, cutting the blank key....


you key looks exactly like the key copy that my dad got for his blazer awhile ago.... standard GM key copy...

 

d00d that is the key i ude to start the car. I mean d00d, can't you see how there are vitually no notches to make it original. I mean i have VATS, so does that mean that the keys are the same but vats is just usedto make sure its the right key or something? And you can't just get the key copied at walmart or something it has to have the propper resistance of the orginal key. If not the key is useless


check the attachment, that is a lock key and it has many notches, my car key has one.

 

this might help

 

We could have made it to Virginia, but Florida is too far. My camel is only a one humper. But seriously, if you or family are in the military, thanks for what you do!

 

Thanks, and yeah we are a military family and right now my step-dad is overseas for another 7 months.

 

EDIT~~~u didnt have to change ur pic cuz of me..i was j/k

 

oooh you mean how your unique key only has one "valley" in it?

look at this:
http://home.howstuffworks.com/question710.htm





you key uses several tumblers, not just one, even though it appears that way...




and btw, if you start your car with that key, you either have vats bypassed, or you dont have vats... there is no chip on that key.

 

your telling me that 1986 trans ams didn't come with VATS?

 

i wanted to

 

no... im just saying if your car can start with that key, your car doesnt have it working.

someone could have bypassed it with a resistor, or somthing....


but that is not a vats key.


as to if it came stock with vats or not, i donno... i never bothered to look up when vats came out with what cars...

 

ok so how do i tell if it is enabled? is there a way?

 

Actually, I don't think it did. I believe they started them in f-bodies in 89.

 

If you start it with that key in the pic, VATS is not working or not there at all (my guess it's not there) The VATS key has a black plastic bit near the big end and that key doesn't.

 

No, he's not, but I am. Only the Corvettes had VATS in 1986. That's a normal ignition cylinder key.

BTW - MrDude_1 is very optomistic. Our lock cylinders don't use pin followers, but cheaper plates instead. That's why they wear out so quickly. That photo looks like a Seargent lock, SFIC slide. I prefer Schlage...

 

i know how them lock cylenders work d00ds. O had to change thew door lock cylenders abou a month ago. The old ones i just couldn't resist taking them apart, ya know, to see how it works. But they are a bit cheaper.

 

I have quite the odd key for my 87 Firebird in that it is nearly completely smooth on the locking end. I've been meaning to get a new ig cylinder for some time now, but, not knowing exactly how to replace one and not having a wheel puller, I can't do it. My key is weird in that I can pull it out of the cylinder when the car is running and throw it to someone so they can open the trunk. I ain't BSing anyone, if that's what you are thinking! I used to have a problem when I first bought the car in that I could even turn the cylinder without the key period from the locked position, but a little lube fixed that. And you guys thought you had strange keys... LOL.

 

that happened to one of my cars as well as my brothers old transam. The thing would start without the key and it would no longer lock in the cylinder because it was so worn.

 

LOL!! Our Highly intelligent 16 year old drag racer thinks a 86 F body has VATS...LOL!!

 

It's a perfectly reasonable question, and an intelligent way to get information. If you don't know, instead of assuming, ask. Pretty easy?

 

I'm sorry Vader, your right, it is just that this young fella has destroyed a bunch of other peoples threads with very raw comments, and alot of stupidity, I guess he kinda brought me down with him for a second. I retract my statement, but doesnt' change my thoguhts about this fella. Do a search on him Vader, you'll understand where I am coming from. Saturn 5's thread titled "Twin Eatons Alive" speaks for itself.

I do agree there is no such thing as a stupid question, I have always lived that way, but this guy takes the cake!

 

You got it.

 

am i like the only person on this board that has never had a PROBLEM WITH THE IGNITION key cylender thingy. I mean mine is completly stock and i cant take it out unless its al the way back. the onyl key i have problems with is the driver's side door lock. the little metal flap to close the hole on it is gone and i'm worried its gonna start to rust soon.