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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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what determines our redline?

ok in my car, for example, i redline at 5grand, and it goes all the way to 7grand. im curious how they determine our redline ? that is all. i am clueless. thanks!
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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It depends on engine balance and what rpm range your motor makes peak power at. That is the simpilist way to look at it.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:10 AM
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Valve float.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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what is valve float? and if i go over redline, is that bad mechanic wise?
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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Valve float is when the lifter actually leaves contact with the lobe and starts floating around int he bore until the spring pushes it against the lobe again.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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so for instance, if i dyno my car, and its still amking power after redline, is it safe to go into that redline zone?
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Its safe to go further if your valves arent floating. Another thing to look at with redline is the type of piston. They all have different max speeds.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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how can i tell when my valves are floating?
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Valve float is when the lifter actually leaves contact with the lobe and starts floating around int he bore until the spring pushes it against the lobe again.
Or the valve hits the seat and bounces back off. This is usually more common.

how can i tell when my valves are floating?
If it happens, youll know. It sounds kind of like a rev limiter, plus youll notice a big drop in power. What exactly are you hoping to accomplish by over-revving the engine? In your case, your power will peak well below your redline, theres no point to potentially damaging the engine just for the sake of revving it.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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actually ive gotten my best times shifting at 5grand, and i was curious if it was safe to try to shift at a higher rpm to see if i can lower my time even more. like 5500 or even 6000
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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If your motor has been built to handle the stress of higher rpm's they by all means experiment changing shift points. Just listen to your motor, it will tell you when it is unhappy.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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only thing i did was put on the open element air filter and flowmaster muffler. and tbi injector riser.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Just go easy and try it. Listen to the motor. Don't start by adding 600 or 700 rpms to your shift points, try 100 or 150 rpms and increase gradually. When the motor lays down you will know. Then use that as your new redline.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Another thing to look at with redline is the type of piston. They all have different max speeds.
does anyone know the max speeds of each type of piston?
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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Cast 3700 ft/min
Forged 4600 ft/min

Piston speed=Stroke * Rpm *1/6

So in your case 3700=3.48*Rpm*1/6

Max Rpm=6379
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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how about hypereutectics?
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Hyperutectics are still cast.
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