http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SB-Ch...spagenameZWDVW

I fried my starter so I'm in need of a new one and was wondering if this one will work? I have an 86 iroc, with 89 350 motor and 86 700r4. I'm not sure what the tooth count is on the flexplate, but the ad says this starter will work on both. Is this possible? is tilton a reputable company? and is there any other problems i would run into with switching to a mini starter?

 

Not sure about the working or not, but to clear things up, it's a Tilton-STYLE, not a real Tilton (I own a Tilton and ther'es a few differences that I see).

 

Yes it is possible for a starter to work with both bolt patterns; all that has to happen, is for the starter to also have both bolt patters. As that one does.

It's yerbasic Hitachi motor, with a who-knows-from-where aluminum "adapter" screwed to the front of it. Should work OK. It's the same sort of thing as the Tilton, Summit, Powermaster, and a few other brand names. Each of them just uses that starter, and then makes/buys the aluminum piece to bolt it to the block.

Be warned, you may need some of the round shims that go between the motor and the aluminum piece, and locate the starter motor farther toward the front of the block. The ones for any other Hitachi-based mini-starter should work. (operative word being "should".... I have no way of knowing that for certain)

 

okay so its not a tilton, but is it worth buying, or should I look for something different? I have a bunch of money in my paypal account that i would really like to spend so thats why i was looking on ebay, but I can order something from jegs or somewhere too, if that starter isn't worth getting.

what tooth flywheel do I have anyways?

 

It's cheap, like half of what a Tilton would cost; so maybe it's worth the risk. Let's put it this way.... it's worth the risk to ME, of YOU spending YOUR money to find out.

If you have a flywheel, it's 153 tooth. If you have a flex plate, it could be either. I can't see it very clearly though, can't even tell whether it's a flywheel or a flex plate, hold it up a little closer to your monitor and maybe I can tell.

 

yea it might be worth it, cuz i can basically get 2 for the price of one. I might give it a whirl, but I'm worried about recieving the wrong part or something...

and sorry, i don't have a flywheel, but rather a flexplate...but our cars only came with 2 different kinds of flexplates, and this starter says it fits both...

Do you guys see a problem with anything, should I order that one or what?

 

hey guys, i'm about to order that same one....just want to double check, make sure everything is copesetic...

 

i found from the same person, same price, but its called a nippodenso style, has 1.9 hp, little less power than the tilton (3hp), and designed a bit different...

should i stick with the tilton style, or go with the nippo style? or doesn't it matter?

the tilton style has more power, for the same price...

 

lets add a few more into the equation...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-HP-...spagenameZWD1V
this one is kind of like the other ones, but doesn't really look like a stock GM starter, so I'm kind of worried about clearance with my LT's headers and whatnot

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Gear-...spagenameZWDVW
then this CVR, is almost double the cost, but allows you to fully adjust it to anywhere you need it to be...(might be a hassle, might be an advantage, I don't know), also its a bit more compact than the others

so out of those 4, which one?

 

also, i'm a little confused...seems there are 2 different kinds of starters...offset pattern and straight bolt pattern...and they are talking about drilling and taping the block as a possibility ...

which do I need?

 

Either the Hitachi motor or the ND motor will work fine. They're both available in a range of HP.

The CVR uses the ND motor. It's a top-of-the-line type unit, much like a Tilton would be. The adjustable feature lets you rotate the motor around its shaft, so to speak (since the shaft must always remain in the same place - namely, where it will allow the drive to contact the ring gear on the flywheel); this helps sometimes if the exhaust is a tight fit to it.

The other 3HP one, I'm not sure what kind of motor that is; it's not a Hitachi or ND.

You need the straight-across bolt holes, with 4 holes; such that it will fit either a 12.8" or 14" flywheel/flex plate. NOT a "staggered" pattern one. Those will ONLY fit 14" stuff. The straight-across type will not fit on a late-model block; but if your block is a 638, then that's the best kind to use, as it will fit either ring gear.

Beyond that, it's a question of price, what you think will fit your setup, and who you trust if there's a problem.

I personally have a CVR, similar to that one in the ad but higher power I think; have had it on my car for about 6 or 7 years now, works great.

 

its an 89 block, so Believe that is the straight bolt pattern...

thats the one thing i'm worried about is the quality of the cheaper units...

should I bite the bullet and spend the extra green on the CVR, or stick with the cheaper unit?

something tells me I should bite the bullet and go with the CVR....should I go with a bigger output motor or is 1.9 hp enough?

its a mild 350 with 9.6 to 1 compression..

 

i ordered the straight bolt pattern CVR unit 1.9hp model...I felt it was worth the extra money... I hope I'm satisfied with it..

thanks for all the help guys...

 

I've been running a CVR for over 4 years. It works great!!

 

Ooopppss....

That's not what I meant to say at all. I wrote it backwards. What I meant to say was, the straight-across type will not fit an EARLY-MODEL block; that being, most blocks before about 1978 or so. It will fit most all blocks from about 81 or 82 up. They started adding the straight-across pattern to blocks sort of gradually over those years, as they made more and more vehicles that needed it.

You'll like the CVR, I'm sure.