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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Can GM block #10134313 be use with wet sump oilling system?

I'm looking to buy a GM block for my Turbo project and block # 10134313 use a one piece seal crank, weight 214-pounds and has Slayed 20 deg main caps. The book also said that is intended to use with dry sump. Can this be change to a wet sump system?
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Re: Can GM block #10134313 be use with wet sump oilling system?

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I'm looking to buy a GM block for my Turbo project and block # 10134313 use a one piece seal crank, weight 214-pounds and has Slayed 20 deg main caps. The book also said that is intended to use with dry sump. Can this be change to a wet sump system?
Ok, does any body knows if a dry sump block can be changed to a wet sump system?
Here is what my engine bay looks for now.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Re: Can GM block #10134313 be use with wet sump oilling system?

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Ok, does any body knows if a dry sump block can be changed to a wet sump system?
Here is what my engine bay looks for now.
It didn't work!
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Re: Can GM block #10134313 be use with wet sump oilling system?

Generally, yes.

All you really need is an oil filter adapter. Plug the comezoutta hole that normally takes oil to the filter, and hook your pressure pump stage to the gozinta hole.

Then all you have to worry about is your various scavenging locations. Which don't really have anything to do with the stock oiling system regardless.

{edit} OOOoooppppsss... I somehow thought that you wanted to do the logical thing, which would be to take a wet-sump block and convert it to dry sump; not the other way around. Especially since you're asking about a motor that will make considerably more power than a stock one would regardless. Downgrading a properly prepped racing block to wet-sump doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

If it doesn't have all of the provisions for a wet-sump oil pump, it'd be pretty tough to add one. Like, holes through the block, the pad on the rear main cap, passages here and there, etc.

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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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Re: Can GM block #10134313 be use with wet sump oilling system?

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It didn't work!
Originally Posted by sofakingdom
Generally, yes.

All you really need is an oil filter adapter. Plug the comezoutta hole that normally takes oil to the filter, and hook your pressure pump stage to the gozinta hole.

Then all you have to worry about is your various scavenging locations. Which don't really have anything to do with the stock oiling system regardless.

{edit} OOOoooppppsss... I somehow thought that you wanted to do the logical thing, which would be to take a wet-sump block and convert it to dry sump; not the other way around. Especially since you're asking about a motor that will make considerably more power than a stock one would regardless. Downgrading a properly prepped racing block to wet-sump doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

If it doesn't have all of the provisions for a wet-sump oil pump, it'd be pretty tough to add one. Like, holes through the block, the pad on the rear main cap, passages here and there, etc.
Thanks for the info. Ok, if I buy this dry sump block, Can I use a regular oil pan to catch the oil? Does anybody make a dry sump oil pan for use on the street in a 1988 camaro? Where do I put the tank for the oil? I will not have a lot of room in my engine compartment. If you look at my pictures my car is not a race car, it has all the interior with a nice stereo and A/C. I would like to make a lot of power and keep it a street car like the Supra turbos that make over 1000hp and stil have all the nice stuff for the street. If the Supra guys can do it with a 3 liter 6 cylinder, I think I can with a V8.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Re: Can GM block #10134313 be use with wet sump oilling system?

nope aint gonna happen... the block isnt what makes power anyways...but thats not the point the 6cyl engine says it all they got extra room for thier stock items you have just enough room for them... most people have to move and remove most of their ACC. to run turbos and the other goodies
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Re: Can GM block #10134313 be use with wet sump oilling system?

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nope aint gonna happen... the block isnt what makes power anyways...but thats not the point the 6cyl engine says it all they got extra room for thier stock items you have just enough room for them... most people have to move and remove most of their ACC. to run turbos and the other goodies
I know that the block does not make power but is the base for a good performance engine. Although the block itself has little effect on hosepower (unless it's completely butchered) it does influence the ability of other parts to perform at maximun efficiency. It also plays a big role in determining durability. I'm going to try my best with some help, to make the 1000 hp on pump gas. I think that a SBC 396 or 406 can do it.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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Re: Can GM block #10134313 be use with wet sump oilling system?

normally the reason a block description will say "DRY SUMP ONLY" is because the oil filter location is milled off the block. so there is no place for an oil filter. if you want a good block that is competion ready and still reliable look for a 184 block. these are the older nascar blocks before they went to SB2 stuff. the 1000 hp on pump gas can be done but it won't be cheap. and if it is going to be a street car you want torque anyway.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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Re: Can GM block #10134313 be use with wet sump oilling system?

Originally Posted by jstoltz
normally the reason a block description will say "DRY SUMP ONLY" is because the oil filter location is milled off the block. so there is no place for an oil filter. if you want a good block that is competion ready and still reliable look for a 184 block. these are the older nascar blocks before they went to SB2 stuff. the 1000 hp on pump gas can be done but it won't be cheap. and if it is going to be a street car you want torque anyway.
Ok, I'll check on that ASAP.

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Originally Posted by jstoltz
normally the reason a block description will say "DRY SUMP ONLY" is because the oil filter location is milled off the block. so there is no place for an oil filter. if you want a good block that is competion ready and still reliable look for a 184 block. these are the older nascar blocks before they went to SB2 stuff. the 1000 hp on pump gas can be done but it won't be cheap. and if it is going to be a street car you want torque anyway.
Hey, I just moved from Columbus Ohio and there is nothing here for motor heads. Thanks God for this site.

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